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407 2.7 HDI OBD scanner

5.5K views 36 replies 7 participants last post by  RedSector  
#1 ·
Good morning all,

I’m new here, I’m not new to forums, but the first Peugeot that’s required help.

I’ve just picked up a 2008 407 (saloon) GT, V6 2.7. It’s relatively good condition and was my father-in-laws. For the last 6 years it’s done on average 300 miles between MOTs and only 60k miles total.
My plan is to use it as a motorway mile muncher, I have a BMW M2 Competition that I’m trying to keep nice so thought the 407 would be a decent car to do about 400 motorway miles a week in.
For my Bimmer, I have a Bluetooth OBD2 adapter that I use with specific apps to code and read.
I downloaded an iPhone app called Car Scanner and successfully read the error codes on the 407. Btw, it has an airbag light on the dash. There’s a few error codes:
-P1351
-U1213
-P2048
-P0234

None of them seem to point at the airbag issue?
My question is, can you recommend an app for reading and clearing the codes? I don’t mind paying for it as long as I know it will work. Alternatively would a proper OBD scanner be a better purchase?
My plan is to clear the airbag fault, use few bottles of different fuel additives (one at a time obviously) and give it the first proper thrashing in a few years to hopefully clear the soot out, after that, I’ll change the engine oil and reassess.
 
#2 · (Edited)
Peugeot uses its own proprietary software and obd2 cable
you will only get basic obd2 codes unless you have something pretty fancey

look on ebay for diagbox / pp2000 / lexia 3.... more money doesn't mean better quality
and the majority come with pirated software that will only run on windows xp or 7 x86 /32bit
(unless somebody chimes in with a better option below)

mine looked like this

but I payed about half that so might be worth hunting on ali express

I have diagbox and Peugeot Planet 2000 software
I think pp2000 is the older version... but I feel its easier to find the options im looking for
both work on the same cable... im not sure what lexia 3 is (could be the name of the cable?)

airbag light can sometimes be an electric connector under the seats
or in the comms unit check the ribbon cables for damage

U1213 I think is an abs sensor.. or a damaged magnetic sensor ring.. its attached to the wheel bearing https://www.amazon.co.uk/23pcs-Front-Bearing-Removal-Installation/dp/B075N1FRDL/ref=sr_1_3?crid=D7PZDY3GJ9AD&keywords=wheel+bearing+removal+kit&qid=1679200440&sprefix=wheel+bearing+,aps,96&sr=8-3
 
#3 · (Edited)
i dont like the look of that P0234 code

"The P0234 is a generic code triggered when your vehicle’s engine control module (ECM) detects dangerously high boost pressure levels above the maximum specified pressure. The ECM receives this data from the Boost Pressure Sensor, which continually sends the data back, and if left unchecked, this adverse condition can damage the engine."

or blow a turbo

looks like you have a bad glow plug/s (not fun to change but wont stop the car from starting in england)
one of those codes looks like its pointing at an injector. that could cause the overboost. as can airintake / vaccum leaks or the egr valve
 
#6 ·
Thanks for your replies, I’ll check out the OBD suggestions.
There’s no rush to get the car going, it’s currently on our drive and sorn’d. So I want to spend a month or two getting it correct before I start to use it.


i dont like the look of that P0234 code

"The P0234 is a generic code triggered when your vehicle’s engine control module (ECM) detects dangerously high boost pressure levels above the maximum specified pressure. The ECM receives this data from the Boost Pressure Sensor, which continually sends the data back, and if left unchecked, this adverse condition can damage the engine."
I’ve read this can be a sticking waste gate solenoid, is that a good place to start looking?
 
#8 ·
Its one of those things where you need to check everything
the pp2000 cable will give you more information
for example a generic obd2 wont pick up an egr fault code
it wont outright tell you what the problem is... but it should point you in the right direction
yea a sticking waste gate could be a thing... there are many youtube videos on how to test them
but the 1.6hdi I was just working on had a garret turbo that didn't have a waste gate.
im a diy guy in not familier with a 2.7. there are many other people here that actually know what they're talking about :rolleyes:
im sure iv read a post recently where someone just adjusted the acutator to solve an overboost issue
 
#19 ·
Thanks very much for your help.
The above AliExpress item says it needs to run on Win7 64 bit. I'm not sure if they're 64 bit enabled but I've just updated both of my old Win7 laptops to Windows 10 😩
I guess it'll be easy to uninstall it back to Win7 ?

So if I have a Win7, 64 bit laptop is all I then need to buy included in your link above?
For the proper set-up at just £35 it's not worth messing about with an ELM 327 dongle!

Many thanks again.
 
#25 ·
Hi.
No, I was trying to post a current link from AliExpress
Hi.
No, I was trying to post a current AliExpress link for Lexia 3 cables to ask if they'd work with your notebook set-up, but it appears that for 2007 and onwards Pugs, Win7 and Diagbox is needed.
I'll keep looking.
Thanks.
 
#29 · (Edited)
The VCI is generically called "Lexia 3" as it a clone of what Peugeot use. Not all Lexia 3 devices are the same and the ones that say don't need VM, have been reported as not working on vehicles by a few different people so YMMV, they can't load in Diagbox VM because there is no driver in it for them and have completely different PCB layouts.

VM is Virtual Machine, which runs Diagbox / Peugeot Planet in a sandbox, so can only access what you allow it to. This is done by turning only virtualisation in the CPU (so the must-have these instruction sets, a VM can run any OS not just windows independently of your current OS)

The Native Version of Diagbox (this is current version by Peugeot without VM), will contact Peugeot Severs and needs tokens (paid access). This is generally not needed.

Peugeot Planet - buying, installing, using | Peugeot Forums
 
#31 ·
The VCI is generically called "Lexia 3" as it a clone of what Peugeot use. Not all Lexia 3 devices are the same and the ones that say don't need VM, have been reported as not working on vehicle but a few different people so YMMV, they can't load in Diagbox VM because there is no driver in it for them and have completely different PCB layouts.

VM is Virtual Machine, which runs Diagbox / Peugeot Planet in a sandbox, so can only access what you allow it to. This is done by turning only virtualisation in the CPU (so the must-have these instruction sets, a VM can run any OS not just windows independently of your current OS)

The Native Version of Diagbox (this is current version by Peugeot without VM), will contact Peugeot Severs and needs tokens (paid access). This is generally not needed.

Peugeot Planet - buying, installing, using | Peugeot Forums
Excellent, that puts all of the new words that I've discovered, whilst looking to buy a Pug 'scanner', into perspective 👍
It also validates my unused laptops as Lexia 3 / Diagbox machines (virtual machines, that is 🙂).

Many thanks.
 
#30 ·
#34 ·
2024 Diagnostic Full Chip Lexia3 PP2000 OBD2 Diagbox V9.91Firmware 921815C For Citroen&Peugeot Lexia 3 V48/V25 - AliExpress 34
The Best Professional Quality Lexi3 Chip Complete Reference Series 921815c Lexia 3 V7.83 PP2000 Complete Chip Diagnostic Tool - AliExpress 34


The linked VCI you found, does not work with VM of Diagbox because there is no driver for it and the PCB layout, YMMV as we have more than one report of it not working with vehicles here as well.
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2024 Diagnostic Full Chip Lexia3 PP2000 OBD2 Diagbox V9.91Firmware 921815C For Citroen&Peugeot Lexia 3 V48/V25 - AliExpress 34
The Best Professional Quality Lexi3 Chip Complete Reference Series 921815c Lexia 3 V7.83 PP2000 Complete Chip Diagnostic Tool - AliExpress 34


The linked VCI you found, does not work with VM of Diagbox because there is no driver for it and the PCB layout, YMMV as we have more than one report of it not working with vehicles here as well.
Hi, and thanks again.
What cable set would you recommend for this netbook set-up