I have heard of issues with vacuum pump seizing which results in chain snapping

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Yes, there is a known fault with the chain with 1.5HDI. You should complain to Peugeot, there is a revised and thicker chain.

Peugeot, Citroën, DS, Opel. Problème de casse sur le 1.5 diesel (DV5)

Exclusif. Outre des problèmes sur le moteur 1.2 PureTech, les marques du groupe PSA (Citroën, DS, Opel et Peugeot), comme Toyota, sont en délicatesse avec le diesel 1.5 BlueHDi. La défaillance de la chaîne des arbres à cames engendre son endommagement, voire sa destruction. Voici pourquoi !

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Yes, there is a known fault with the chain with 1.5HDI. You should complain to Peugeot, there is a revised and thicker chain.

Peugeot, Citroën, DS, Opel. Problème de casse sur le 1.5 diesel (DV5)

Exclusif. Outre des problèmes sur le moteur 1.2 PureTech, les marques du groupe PSA (Citroën, DS, Opel et Peugeot), comme Toyota, sont en délicatesse avec le diesel 1.5 BlueHDi. La défaillance de la chaîne des arbres à cames engendre son endommagement, voire sa destruction. Voici pourquoi !

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Hi - do you have any notification re the fault you can share?

 

I don't understand the question.

 

OK so I have a major update here - I found this article: Peugeot, Citroen, DS, Opel. 1.5 (DV5) Diesel Breakdown Problem which when checking the parts on my car matches the problem - But if the reference number was 98 126 472 80 and the housing was flat, the engine still had the old, weaker 7 mm chain.
I'm going after Peugeot for this as the parts for repair are on a backlog and will take 4-5 months and the cost will be immense, so I'm quoted £6300 for a new engine

 

These photos are shocking... is that reference number easily visible to check? Can someone tell by investigating the Vin no.?

 

Hi, no idea how visible it is in the car unfortunately - mine is currently on table so easily accessible 😪. It's a hugely dangerous defect though and I wouldn't be surprised if they know all the VINs that this affects

 

Did you notice something before it happened? Some weird noise when cold, lack of power or high consumption? Any sign of failure?

 

honestly there has been no sign of anything wrong at all. I took the car up to Scotland the week before, it was really fuel efficient and quiet and then drove across to Bolton on the Sunday. If there had been any clue I wouldn't have driven it and I certainly wouldn't have allowed my daughter in it. It was even booked in for an annual service on the 2nd May and I would have brought that sooner if I thought there was a problem. The only sign was when my husband heard a noise when I started the car (he was stood outside) and the next thing the engine cut out

 

Sorry to hear of your problems. One thing I don't understand, though, is that the article to which you linked says "All vehicles manufactured since December 31, 2019 may be affected by this manufacturing defect", and that this problem "affects Euro 6.3 (or Euro 6.D) blocks produced since December 31, 2019". But you have a 2018-registered car.

I have a November 2019 1.5HDi, so I'll have to go and peer at the engine to see whether I can identify whether I have a 7mm or 8mm chain.

 

My camshaft housing has the numbers 98 126 472 80 on it and the chain is 7mm which is the same as in the article hence my belief is that the issue is the same even though my car is older.

 

As I understand it its not the 7mm chains per se, but ones manufacturered by a particular supplier after they started supplying them from a certain date. This one could just be a random failure, although that's no consolation for poor lynnem.

 

you could be right but either way Peugeot surely can't be happy about a car less than 5 years old and at 65K miles with a snapped chain and therefore a knackered engine. Once the car is fixed it'll be in the hands of the ombudsman as the camshaft chain isn't even on the service schedule, as it's not meant to break. . There is clearly a fault so i'd like compensation from them.

 

Given that I have been wanting to buy a Peugeot 508 for some time, I went to a service center today that mainly deals with the maintenance of French cars. I was told to avoid the 1.5 precisely because of these problems and chain chatter. They also told me that 2.0 is the better choice and that I shouldn't have any problems. Do you know anything more about 2.0?

 

is that reference number easily visible to check? Can someone tell by investigating the Vin no.?

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Does anybody know if the 1.5 HDi uses the rocker arms which snap like the 2.0 / 1.6 HDi does? The 1.5 is a derivitive of the 1.6. If so, it could mean the engine can be saved with relatively little cost as new rocker arms, timing chain kit, timing belt kit and maybe camshafts if the lobes have rotated will get the engine running perfectly.

 

Good evening did you get any info on your question, I’ve fixed many 8v’s and now have a twin cam in with broken chain. It snapped at low revs and all valves are sitting at same level.
No bent rockers etc. wondered if a safe ish engine

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Hi - is anyone aware of a fault with the timing chain? I have a 2018 plate 3008 1.5 hdi with 65K miles on the clock. My timing chain has broken and killed my engine to the extent that the garage a suggesting a new engine due to the extent of the damage. I have only owned the car 11 months. The car has a warranty on it and I'm praying it covers the repairs, but due to the age of the car, I'm curious as to whether there is a manufacturing fault?

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One thing I don't understand, though, is that the article to which you linked says "All vehicles manufactured since December 31, 2019 may be affected by this manufacturing defect", and that this problem "affects Euro 6.3 (or Euro 6.D) blocks produced since December 31, 2019". But you have a 2018-registered car.

 

I have a 22 3008 1.5hdi which is running fine but I am concerned over the 6mm v 7mm timing chain issue. Recently a forum member stated that by checking the 9 digit number on the valve head, close to the oil filler, should show which chain is fitted. My problem is that the number on mine is slightly different from the 2 in the posting.
It is : 9809695280 with a second 7 digit no. 03 RNZ 22 underneath.
Can anyone shed any light as to whether this number relates to chain size? Thanks.

 

I have a 22 3008 1.5hdi which is running fine but I am concerned over the 6mm v 7mm timing chain issue. Recently a forum member stated that by checking the 9 digit number on the valve head, close to the oil filler, should show which chain is fitted. My problem is that the number on mine is slightly different from the 2 in the posting. It is : 9809695280 with a second 7 digit no. 03 RNZ 22 underneath. Can anyone shed any light as to whether this number relates to chain size? Thanks.

Addendum : 10 digit number, not 9!

 

How did you find the number? :/

I tried and no luck. Cannot see anything.

 

 

I have found the number. It is vertical orientation, close to the oil stick.

There is one more number (extremely similar) printed on the top pf this big aluminum cover. They are not matching 100%.

My numbers are:
PSA 9809695080
14 RNZ 18

 

I have found the number. It is vertical orientation, close to the oil stick.

There is one more number (extremely similar) printed on the top pf this big aluminum cover. They are not matching 100%.

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My numbers are:
PSA 9809695080
14 RNZ 18

Following your reply I lifted the bonnet again & found the vertical stamped number, which is the same as yours ending 5080. Thanks anyway or y

I have found the number. It is vertical orientation, close to the oil stick.

There is one more number (extremely similar) printed on the top pf this big aluminum cover. They are not matching 100%.

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My numbers are:
PSA 9809695080
14 RNZ 18

 

So that’s not engine number then. Numbers should be unique, or not?

 

Hi there I have a 11/2018 208 1.5 hdi 102ps with 90.000 km....yesterday when I started the car in the morning was making a strange sound probably from the chain....but eventually go away after 5 seconds .. Today during cold start it did not make the sound again
I should be worried about the chain ? . Or is it something else 🤔
Does anyone knows if the new 8mm chain and tensioner fits older models ( my car it's a 2018 model and obviously had the 7mm chain ) but no recall since it's pre 2019 !
Is replacing the chain generally advised ?
My car is less than 5 years but out of warranty because I passed 60.000 km

 

How that strange noise sounds like?

Is it higher pitch, like metal hitting something?

 

I came across this page through a buddy (via Google) and thought I would share dash cam video of the moment my DV5 cam chain snapped to answer your question on the noise. It was a 20 month old Vauxhall Combo and Vauxhall effectively said it was uneconomic to repair and therefore written off. It was out of warranty (unlike Peugeot unlimited mileage 2 year warranties, Vauxhall cap their warranties at 60k miles) and Vauxhall offered no goodwill assistance at all towards the repairs.
You can hear the moment the cam chain snapped at 38 seconds. I instantly lost all drive and coast to a standstill.
I've only just uploaded the video to YouTube, so it might be an hour or so before the higher quality versions are processed and available.

 

Hi - do you have any notification re the fault you can share?

Yes, there is a known fault with the chain with 1.5HDI. You should complain to Peugeot, there is a revised and thicker chain.

Peugeot, Citroën, DS, Opel. Problème de casse sur le 1.5 diesel (DV5)

Exclusif. Outre des problèmes sur le moteur 1.2 PureTech, les marques du groupe PSA (Citroën, DS, Opel et Peugeot), comme Toyota, sont en délicatesse avec le diesel 1.5 BlueHDi. La défaillance de la chaîne des arbres à cames engendre son endommagement, voire sa destruction. Voici pourquoi !

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OK so I have a major update here - I found this article: Peugeot, Citroen, DS, Opel. 1.5 (DV5) Diesel Breakdown Problem which when checking the parts on my car matches the problem - But if the reference number was 98 126 472 80 and the housing was flat, the engine still had the old, weaker 7 mm chain.
I'm going after Peugeot for this as the parts for repair are on a backlog and will take 4-5 months and the cost will be immense, so I'm quoted £6300 for a new engine
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My 2022 308sw has the latest 8mm chain and apparently it has stretched.
The previous 68 plate 1.5 dv5 chain broke so I guess that’s improvement.. back to Skoda !

 

Hi,
I heard from some sources that new timing chain has been developed, 9 mm or 10 mm, but I am not sure about this.
Could anybody confirm is that true or its just some rumors?
Thank you.
Miki

 

My wife’s 3008 1.5 Blue HdI engine capitulated in February. 69 plate and 66,000 miles on the clock, Peugeot very aware of the issue but are only offering us 50% goodwill towards a full engine repair of £9k. Peugeot customer care less than helpful in assisting and just keep stating 50% is based on an “incomplete service history” on account of having some services done at local garages and not main dealerships. I’m refusing to back down and will fight them on this as they know the issue exists but are are not giving owners the opportunity to get ahead of the problem and save themselves £1000’s of damage repair. The UK Motor Omsbudsman have accepted our case but could be up to 6 months before the case is looked at, Anyone else had dealings with Peugeot customer care that would be willing to share/combine/discuss?

 

Hi my chain has gone on 69 plate on 60000 on clock. How did you get on with Peugeot. I am having car stripped on Friday to see extent of damage. Did they offer you 50% or did you have to fight for it

 

They offered 50% based on 4 annual services logged and I was pre-warned by the Peugeot dealership that they would likely request what oil and filter parts were used as specifics. This was all provided but their response continues to be the service history is “incomplete“ without elaborating on what is missing or asking me to provide more evidence. Has yours been serviced at mains dealerships or independent garages? There seems a fairly common theme of the timing chain going at around 60-67k miles, further evidence of a defective part rather than inadequate servicing. I’ve contacted Watchdog now as Peugeot are knowingly allowing these vehicles to be on the road with this ticking time bomb of a fault that could be fixed with a £400 timing chain replacement rather than a £9000 full engine replacement bill.

 

I have reported to watchdog too. As you say it’s not on the service checks anyway

 

Does UK have regulation as it is in EU - COMMISSION REGULATION (EU) No 461/2010: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32010R0461
This could maybe help, if service was done at independent garage.

 

I'm another voice to add to this problem. 2019 68 plate 3009 1.5 diesel, full service history 2019-2021 at main Peugeot dealer then 22-present with Vauxhall from whom I bought it.

Car worked very well, no warning lights of any kind and no symptoms of problem. Sudden clunk 20 metres after leaving my house and that's it, cam chain appears to have broken. 69210 miles on the clock. Family man, careful driver, much more motivated by mpg than speed.


Local dealership seem genuinely sympathetic and mentioned the 'special cover' that I may (?) be eligible for. Tho can't see it til early June due to a back log of broken cars. Sigh. I did my careful research. I heard peugeot were on the up. I avoided the 1.2 with its known problems. Shame none of this was out there in 2022. They must be quite concerned about the damage this will do.

Has anyone yet been thro the fix and out the other end? How long did it take, any tips on being persuasive?