[hpc3]

for long time i watch this forum, new pages :
it seems honda, ford have also belts in oil... ford having same problems. oil basket full of debris, eventually getting inside the engine and causing damage.

Durée de vie courroie de distribution 1,2L Puretech

forum-auto.caradisiac.com

 

[olizzz8]

for long time i watch this forum, new pages :
it seems honda, ford have also belts in oil... ford having same problems. oil basket full of debris, eventually getting inside the engine and causing damage.

Durée de vie courroie de distribution 1,2L Puretech

forum-auto.caradisiac.com

yeah, the new cars do it so you can go directly to the dealer to get it fixed, which will cost alot of money, and then they get profit

 

[GP driver]

If PCS have made a change to the timing belt material, can anybody tell me the new part number and or details about the belt is please. At least WHEN I get my car back I can ask what belt they have fitted?

 

[Vainamoinen]

Last month my 2018 car was 2 year service (27000km) at the Peugeot dealer and I told that I want they put best oil (Total Ineo First 0w20) to engine just for peace of mind for me. And discussed with mechanic about this known problem of belt. He said that there is maybe 7th version of belt now and he said also that Peugeot have "silence extented 5year warranty" of this timing belt problem. Of course service book should be filled correctly during 5 years.

 

[hpc3]

interesting, but i guess the "silent warranty" not available in east part of eu...
west always gets all the benefits...

 

[Jaypbee]

Have read through a huge post on a French forum, still a lot of debate over the cause of the issue, how to avoid it and where Peugeot stand on it. One thing which does seem very clear though is that it isn't solved, by new belts, more frequent servicing or even replacing the belt sooner

 

[Brilec]

That's reassuring then.

 

[Mr Lee]

Sounds like PSA don't know what to do to cure it.

How long until there is a retrofit kit to replace the wet belt for a chain?

 

[Vainamoinen]

I would like to know is the problem solved when "puretech II" arrived december 2017 ? It have new shape cam pulleys which you can see taking oil cap out like this

 

[hpc3]

i dont see clear evidence that engines with new belt have a breakdown. just very few anecdotial posts.......
but old cars like 2015 cars having very often problems >70000.km
i dive sometimes aggresively, so oil filter bypass gets activated for sure. i prefer thicker 5w40. i may remove and look at the vti solenoid...
i keep looking if belt looks weird..

 

[Jaypbee]

The one posted a couple of days ago was a 2018 car. Its not set in concrete there is a new belt which is significantly different, and even if there was it will take time to crumble as it seems to be time rather than mileage that it manifests. All we know is Peugeot have shortened the replacement interval by quite a margin, and look to be using a chain in next engine. I wonder why.

 

[Access308]

My 2015 1.2 has a timing belt that appears to be flaking. There are white flecks or spots visible on the outer side of the belt, looking down the oil filler. Peugeot won't cover the full cost of replacement. I went anf got a comparitive quote from a Peugeot specialist to replace the belt at AUD$1700. I am not sure if that is typical, but elsewhere I have had a Citroen diesel RHH engine timing belt, idler and water pump changed for $800 in the past. What I'm gettting at, is the Puretech more complex or timing consuming to replace the timing belt? It just seems v expensive for a service item compared with a dry belt replacement. Maybe I need to get more quotes.

 

[Qaz2453]

Destruction of timing belt is very common in theses 1.2 turbos, i work at Peugeot and have done countless timing belts.. horrible job lol
As you can see the oil strainer is completely blocked
Also involved is cleaning the pump, vacuum pump, both dephasers.

As for oil, 0w30 is meant to be used only for theses engines

 

[Jaypbee]

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Destruction of timing belt is very common in theses 1.2 turbos, i work at Peugeot and have done countless timing belts.. horrible job lol
As you can see the oil strainer is completely blocked
Also involved is cleaning the pump, vacuum pump, both dephasers.

As for oil, 0w30 is meant to be used only for theses engines

Do you see it just as much with 2017/18 cars as you did with earlier ones?

 

[Mr Lee]

FWIW - I know 2 ex Ford technicians who each left Ford as they where sick of working on / replacing Eco boost engines 🤣

 

[Qaz2453]

Do you see it just as much with 2017/18 cars as you did with earlier ones?

This picture is from a 2017 (67 plate ) 308

I have yet to get a timing belt issue from the newer 1.2 turbos ( the one with the plastic engine cover and high pitched starter motors)
Which I believe is 2018+

 

[hpc3]

do you say this is the new smooth belt?

 

[Qaz2453]

Another day, another wet belt 😂
Here's some photos of what is involved in the replacement of the timing belt

 

[hpc3]

that looks like old belt, has diagonal lines......

 

[Brilec]

But clearly the engine was designed by a bean counter. Easy enough to build. Belt cheaper than chain. But no thought about reliability or the cost of replacement because someone else pays that.