Wow, that's a lot of questions !

 

Thing with hybrids there are so many things that affect range that every single person is going to get different results

How many hills in your daily commute how much time spent at motorway speeds how much time spent with heater lights aircon on etc will all affect range.

How you drive the vehicle will be the biggest single factor in deciding range

As an example we have 3 diesel clios and 1 averages 50 mpg 1 60 the other always averages 76 !!

the 1 that does 76 is driven on regular 15 mile trips twice daily the one that does 50 mpg is driven in stop start traffic daily the other gets a mixture of use.

Electric cars need to be driven in a different manner to get the best from them as for how fast you can go in 4 wheel drive mode you really should aim to avoid 4 wheel drive mode completely

 

I fully understand that but i just want a ball park figure of mileage from everyday driving and then take it from there

 

I've a 104g model with all the extras on so is the worst model for mpg, and got 500 miles from a full tank this week which is fairly typical. This is equivalent to 47 mpg. Car has done £20k and is 2 years old. I do low mileage. Had car from new, and this is is typical. Still love it though, great car bar average mpg and lack of proper iPod interface.

 

See my other post on mpg. Pure electric mode last no more than 2-3 miles and no faster than 30 maybe briefly up to 40 mph. Max speed in 4 wheel drive is no different than in auto or sport as its electronic not mechanical 4 wheel drive. I have a 2 year old 104g and there is no Bluetooth streaming on telephone connection. Don't know about newer models.

 

I have found you can travel up to around 2 miles at speeds of 35 to 40 mph in ZEV (pure electric) mode using gentle throttle and on a flat road. In 4WD mode you can travel at speeds up to 70 mph. I can get around 600 miles out of a full tank, I am not a speed merchant though.

 

thank you for your replies so far

 

Miles per full tank and MPG go hand in hand. A 60 litre tank is slightly more than 13 gallons so if someone says they get 45 MPG it equates to roughly 585 miles per full tank likewise a 500 mile tank would be around 38.5 MPG.

It also depends on how low an individual is prepared to let the tank drop to before filling up again and how accurate the fuel gauge is. Some will fill up as soon as the gauge hits the red segment while others may wait until the low fuel light and warning appear. Waiting till the warning appears will give the illusion of more miles per tank than filling up as soon as the gauge hits the red. Even the fuel pump being used can affect the perceived fuel economy and range of a full tank. One pump nozzle may shut off at a lower tank level than the pump next to it. The rate of fuel delivery by the pump will also affect the total amount of fuel that actually gets into the tank before the nozzle shuts off. Any answers you get will be meaningless because you have no way of knowing all the variables involved in that figure being produced or to reliably reproduce those circumstances.

 

i fully understand that but adding electric power as well where you can go for 2 - 3 miles on EV alone dosn't that alter things a bit

 

hi just wondered if anyone could help ive got a 308hdi and on the way to work one of the head lights went out then we i went to go some where i noticed the others gone now as well, ive had them both out and they look clean dosent look like theres any damage at all id check the fuse but i dont know which ones witch any ideas

 

I always fill until I see the diesel foaming up to the neck, wait 5-6 seconds, then fill until the cutoff. It's not a 'calibrated' fill but it's pretty accurate, and, thanks to my anlly retentive mindset, I use a spreadsheet to record each tankful, mpg, miles per litre, cost per mile, cost of tankful, price per litre and average mpg and average price per gallon/litre since purchasing the car.

I also record the overall cost since date of purchase and year-to-date (plus cost per mile for each category) for depreciation, fuel, insurance, VED, finance + repairs/servicing. The spreadsheet also projects annual and weekly mileage for the current year from the year-to-date figures.

All of which probably explains my low annual mileage - I spend more time maintaining the spreadsheet than I do driving the bloody car :thumb:

So, up to today, I have owned the car for 57 weeks and have paid an average of £1.19 per litre (lots of cheap French diesel!) or £5,39 per gallon. Average mpg is 49.52 (includes a fair bit of towing/manoeuvering a trailer in '27 point turns' because of tight property access); solo driving between France and Scotland gives 48-52 mpg depending on how late I have left it to reach the ferry (we were last vehicle to be loaded on 17th December and had about 45 seconds to wait - not long enough to remove the headlamp deflectors :nod.

Full year mileage 9777 gave VED 1p per mile, insurance 3p, repairs/servicing 1p, finance charges 2p, fuel 12p and depreciation a whopping 55p (based on writing off the entire purchase cost over 3 years. When I sell the car, I add back the sale price to recalculate the depreciation charge).

I'm quite an interesting person to know - especially if you wish to save yourself the cost of a trip to Dignitas - 20 minutes with my spreadsheet will do the same thing painlessly ).

 

I think all hybrid4's are slightly different and my gut feel is they are more sensitive to driving conditions than normal diesels with some bizarre twists like mine does higher MPG when manually flipping between 4WD and ZEV than it does just leaving it in auto, why? because in 4WD mode I get a full battery charge, but in auto I only ever seem to get 3 bars max on the battery - full battery = longer on ZEV.

It also does higher mpg in rushour motorway traffic as it allows some use of the full battery occasionally. MPG on a good run (rare) 54, frequently 42-47 depending on the mix of traffic, full tank range typically 465-500 miles depending on fill level and MPG at the time....academic, when its empty its empty!

ZEV - max speed 40mph, range typically 2-3 miles, but I've seen 6 miles on a mostly downhill run and the MPG display said 88mpg

Max 4WD speed is 74mph, again academic, if you really need 4WD you shouldn't be doing 70mph - it aint a Quattro S1.

A good source about MPG and range data is Spritmonitor.de, where you can see lots of users data for mpg over time and mileage between refills.

Good luck with yours

 

mpg

I have the 99g version 2012 93k miles I get about 550 to a tank last one was 570 and I filled up with 54 litres.
I can stream from my nokia lumia 535 when the bluetooth works, maybe 1 full day a week! It normally loses the connection at least 2 or 3 times a day. Sometimes needing to delete all the pairings and start again from scratch to make it work. I am currently driving a Vauxhall Insignia and have not lost phone connection once!

 

I have the 99g version 2012 93k miles I get about 550 to a tank last one was 570 and I filled up with 54 litres.
I can stream from my nokia lumia 535 when the bluetooth works, maybe 1 full day a week! It normally loses the connection at least 2 or 3 times a day. Sometimes needing to delete all the pairings and start again from scratch to make it work. I am currently driving a Vauxhall Insignia and have not lost phone connection once!

just out of interest with your last tank of 570 miles was that achieved by main roads and motorways or round the houses or a combination of both

cheers

 

thanks for that just the answer i needed