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Multiple Faults

3.7K views 30 replies 10 participants last post by  steveq  
#1 ·
Hi all,

We own a 2021 Peugeot e2008, bought second hand from a Peugeot dealer last November.

Have enjoyed the car so far, but it started faulting at the weekend…

Everytime we turn it on, it shows the following faults one after the other:
  • Collision Detection Risk System Fault
  • Tyre under inflation detection system fault
  • Parking Break fault (repair needed)
  • Hill start system fault
  • ABS Braking system fault (repair needed)
Once I drive away, it then also shows “ESP/ASR Fault”.

So… lots of faults, lots of pinging everytime we start the car - but otherwise it drives absolutely fine.

A couple of other things I’ve noticed since these faults have shown:
  • When I try and turn on ACC it shows “Adaptive Cruise Control fault” and it doesn’t work.
  • When I reverse the rear camera shows, but the overhead display (where it shows what’s around the car) doesn’t show the surroundings at the front or side.
  • Previously I could just drive away without pressing the handbrake button - now if I drive away I have to press the handbrake button, it doesn’t switch it off automatically.

It feels wild that everything has just stopped working like this all at once - so I wonder if it’s a connection issue or something… we’ve contacted the dealer as we have 12 month warranty and they’ve told us the earliest they can see the car is 7th April!!

If anyone has any ideas on this, I would be really grateful!

Thanks!
 
#2 ·
It sounds like you had an impact to the front of the car. Did you bump into anything? Or maybe someone hit you when you were parked. Most of those errors would come up when sensors get misaligned on impact and/or get damaged.

I know because my wife drove into the fence and fkn insurance company didn't fix it and refused to fix it stating it's not accident related. Even though garage said it happens on impact due to sensors going out of alignment and it's common af in modern cars.

If anyone wants to know which insurance company to avoid DM me and I'll tell you.
 
#4 ·
It sounds like you had an impact to the front of the car. Did you bump into anything? Or maybe someone hit you when you were parked. Most of those errors would come up when sensors get misaligned on impact and/or get damaged.

I know because my wife drove into the fence and fkn insurance company didn't fix it and refused to fix it stating it's not accident related. Even though garage said it happens on impact due to sensors going out of alignment and it's common af in modern cars.

If anyone wants to know which insurance company to avoid DM me and I'll tell you.
Hmm, no not as far as I remember… doesn’t look like it’s taken a knock either…

Did it cost a lot to “re-align the sensors”?

It may be the 12 volt battery is low, so the first thing I would try is fully charging it.
If this cures the faults for a while, get the garage to test the battery, and make sure it is being charged correctly.
I’ve charged the battery fully twice since the weekend and it’s still showing :(
 
#9 ·
Strange thing happened today… started the car and no faults showed…
I drove for about a mile and then all the faults came up again :cry:
This suggests (to me) a sensor or wiring to one ABS sensor is involved. Could even be a canbus issue. Appears not know to start with by the ECU's involved, is most likely an intermittent fault, which are the worst type to find and fix or alternatively the most fun.

You need proper diagnostics to see what is going on. The chances of fixing itself are not great.
 
#11 · (Edited)
Hi,

I would strongly suspect one of the rear cables that go from the hub to the wiring loom. There is one on each side. At the hub the cable splits into two - one connects to the speed sensor and the other connects to the brake actuator that applies the auto parking brake.
As the rear suspension moves up and down the cable flexes and the wires break.

This happened on my 2021 e2008 and I have just resolved the problem.
All the dashboard errors came up with flashing warning lights and beeping alarm. Also the orange spanner symbol was shown.
I did suspect an ABS/whèel speed sensor as I had a similar problem on a previous non-Peugeot car.

I have an OBD device which did show error codes but it was hard to convert the codes to the specific fault. It also didn't show live data to know which one was faulty. I removed and checked each speed sensor. Each one showed electric resistance so probably weren't faulty.

I didn't have a specific Peugeot diagnostic tool so investigated the options available. I ordered a Lexia3 set and downloaded Diagbox software- this site was of fantastic benefit in helping with my education and decision.
That, and attached to an old laptop really helped in the problem diagnosis and identification of the problem - right rear sensor.
I read on here that the cable gives problems.
I removed the cable -- that is doable with minor difficulties.
I tried to buy a new one but it wasn't available and a main dealer said that it was on back order with no estimated date for delivery.
I decided to try to repair the old one. There are 4 wires which are enclosed in a flexible corrugated plastic outer. There are 2 heavier wires that go to the brake caliper actuator motor and 2 lighter wires that go to the speed sensor.
I checked for continuity of each wire end-to-end using my meter.
There was no continuity on one of the speed sensor wires.
I identified where the break in the wire was by narrowing it down by sticking a pin into it at the middle of the length and try the continuity test from there to each end and then doing the same again. When it got to a few inches I closely inspected the wire. There was slight damage visually. I cut the outer and there were no wire strands inside.
I peeled back the outer until I exposed the inner. I soldered in a new piece of wire, covered the section with heatshrink and then insulating tape on top.
I put the section back into the corrugated outer cover.
I refitted the cable and the faults all cleared - however I did connect the Lexia3 / Diagbox at the same time.
I'm not sure how long this repair will last though - it is only a couple of days and about a 10km test drive since I got it resolved.
 
#13 ·
I own an e2008 (2020) and experience more or less the same problem since a few days. These alarms pop up: parking distance sensors, ESP, ABS, hill assist, handbrake and tire pressure (I have no ACC). I tried the parking distance sensors and the handbrake, and they still work.

Sometimes they pop up when I start the car, sometimes after some time (while I'm driving). When I restart the car then, they are gone, but come back again immediately, or after some time. So it's like there is an electrical connection that loses contact briefly, which makes these errors pop up.

The problem which Steveq describes, seems a logical explanation to me.
 
#14 ·
I would guess that you have a damaged wire in one of the rear sensor cables. It could be intermittently making and breaking the connection to the sensor with the movement of the suspension.
When the wire connection is broken the speed sensor values are unavailable which triggers all the ESP, ABS, tyre pressure faults.
 
#15 ·
I've had EXACTLY the same issue arise over the last few days. The warning lights went away once or twice but ate a permanent fixture ATM.

I'm not going to be capable/confident enough to try and do the diagnostics/repair that was described by one of the earlier replies/posters so was wondering if anyone had an idea how much such a repair would likely cost for a garage to do?

Many thanks in advance for any replies!
 
#17 ·
Thank you all for your replies so far! Strangely enough, the faults have stopped for the past 3 days - everything has been working fine!…

We’re going to keep our appointment in for April with the dealer in case it comes back, and we also have a weird (almost cracking) noise coming whenever we turn from a stopped position (like coming out onto a road).
 
#18 ·
Today, the car was repaired. Two cables were replaced (not the speed sensor cables, but the cables with electric current supply to the ABS, they explained to me). It costed me 240€ including the diagnosis. According to the dealer, this type of faults are known for the e2008 (but ours was the first car in the garage they've had with this problem).
 
#22 ·
I looked up those part numbers. The pictures that are associated with the parts on multiple sites show the rear ABS speed sensor/ e-parking brake cable. One is the left side and the other is the right side. The part number is different to the part number I was given for the cable so maybe it has been revised.
The cable does supply the power to the e-parking brake (there is a motor that applies the rear brakes when the parking brake button is lifted). The other part of the cable takes the signal from the wheel speed sensor which is used to match the speed of all the wheels to know which wheel to release for anti-locking.
 
#24 ·
If the faults say ABS, ESP, Tyre pressure, and others then it is likely to be the cable from one of the rear hubs to the main wiring loom.
The cable flexes as the suspension moves up and down and a wire in it eventually breaks. The are 4 wires in the corrugated plastic tubing and the smallest two are from the rear wheel speed sensor. The cable is easy to replace but you need diagnostics to a) be certain that it is the problem and b) to know which side is faulty.

It is possible to fix the cable if you can wield a soldering iron or it is only about £40 for a new cable. The problem is trying to actually buy a cable -- they are on back-order.
It is less than an hour's labour to replace the cable for someone who has done it previously.
 
#28 ·
I wrote down these fault codes when the ABS, etc. errors appeared on the display.
U1207(81)
C120E(00)
C0514(11)
C0515(01)

There may have been more fault codes which I didn't write down.

I got these by putting a bluetooth dongle into the OBD II port and connecting it to Car Scanner running on a tablet.

Of course, these refer to the faults that were on my car which turned out to be the right rear speed sensor/parking brake power cable -- your faults might be completely different.
 
#29 ·
By the way, when I googled those faults none of them helped to point me to the actual issue.

On a different non-Peugeot car I had the ABS errors displayed which ended up being a faulty wheel speed sensor so I thought that this might be the first place to start investigating.

I ended up buying a Lexia3 and Diagbox setup. That was a great help and and steered me to the RH rear and I saw on here and other sites that the cable was a likely suspect.