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Genuine alarm not working

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#1 ·
I equipped my Peugeot 207 with a genuine alarm, modified the parameters in the BSI and everything works fine, it is recognized by any OBD tool and I can trigger the siren with the computer, also the button flashes correctly.
Unfortunately I didn't have a key fob, I only have a normal key without the buttons so I lock/unlock my car manually each time. Today I went to a dealer to get a genuine new key with two buttons, not only for security reasons in case I lose my key but to activate the alarm too, because according to the manual, I can only arm the car using the key fob.
So after getting my new key it seems like the alarm isn't working at all, I mean it should at least do a bip sound when I lock/unlock my car wirelessly but it doesn't, using diagbox I can see a lot of parameters in the alarm system, such as Thatcham mode and other country restriction things I believe, but I dont know which configuration to use, my country doesn't really have any rules about alarms but I just want it to work that's all.
 
#2 · (Edited)
So after getting my new key it seems like the alarm isn't working at all, I mean it should at least do a bip sound when I lock/unlock my car wirelessly but it doesn't
Did you add the key to the BSI, and was it accepted into the system (completed successfully / shows up). Sometimes it takes more than one go, to get the key added in the BSI system.

Have you initialised the remote part of the key ?
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Total guess at the wiring diagram, without you giving the specific VIN and RPO data.
So an example of what it might look like:-
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Peugeot - OEM Part numbers or Exploded views
PEUGEOT ALL MODELS WIRING DIAGRAMS - GENERAL

using diagbox I can see a lot of parameters in the alarm system
See if the attachments are useful, included the aerial / receiver (don't expect you need this)
 

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#3 ·
Thank you for your response, I actually did everything right since the beginning but I had the wrong idea on how an alarm should work, or what Peugeot thinks an alarm should work.
I tried to lock my car while the window is opened, waiting for few seconds then opened the door from the inside to simulate a theft, and that triggered the alarm, great this means that everything works but not as expected, at least for me.

I always thought that any car equipped with an alarm system should have a beeping sound when locking or unlocking it, on some other cars like the VW Polo 6R it uses the horn as sound indicator (you can configure the horn to beep when locking, unlocking, both or never) even without any alarm system, but I think Peugeot didn't have the luxury to add a beeping feature as far as I now, and that's what gave me the wrong idea that my alarm wasn't functioning.
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#14 · (Edited)
Yes mine is on the list KFU like I said.
My car didn't come with a factory alarm installed so the VIN will give you nothing
also I believe there's only one EDC model for all 207
Nope, didn't post it to confirm your thoughts. Rather, just to show a little of how much that supplying the right information, helps us to help you. We have to go through all this, every time we try to help someone, and this is not even considering the DAM/RPO which can be production change(s) during said "KFU" that you claimed are all 207 models, which then often changes the wiring information for that variant within the model EDC code.

While your vehicle didn't come with factory fitted, we can figure it all out for you if you give us the right information to start with. So my point is, perhaps next time you post, that you consider posting the identification information from the start, so we can tailor the answer to what you have in front of you and where you're going with your project.

Hope you find this useful.
 
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xD I believe you didn't understand my interpretation, I already did all the necessary research and I gave you a straight forward problem, also I already looked for multiple models and it seems like all 207 have a common EDC, based on what I found the alarm isn't related to the engine type, RPO, DAM or silhouette, its the same for all 207, I didn't ask you to look for each combination between different characteristics I just thought I made a mistake regarding my conclusion.
If there was a basket full of around 10000 tiny balls in which 9990 are black and 10 are white, if I remove 8000 black balls and still can't find any white balls then I can conclude that the basket is probably full of black balls and there isn't any other color, and that's what I did in this particular case I couldn't find any difference between multiple models.
Also logically speaking there are things that doesn't have to be different to begin with, like the alarm and reversing radar as an example, they are passive systems which doesn't affect the car by any means, so if the manufacturer doesn't find any issues in these systems in early production then there's no reason to change them.
I didn't give you wrong or less information because I thought there's nothing else to add.