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Headlights; Main beam / Dipped beam

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Many models (mine included) have the brilliant LED headlights.

Other models have Halogen headlights and this thread is for those models.

Headlight OEM bulbs usually do not give the best results as they like them to last a while.

Basically the brighter they burn then the shorter time they last.

Converting Halogen to LED or HID requires a special kit that you can buy.

The trouble is that they are strictly for 'off road' use.

You can though improve the performance of your headlights with a better bulb.

The Dipped beam takes a H7-55W and the Main beam is a HB3 (models may vary so check first!).

The Philips WhiteVision is an excellent bulb to change to.

I fitted these in my Peugeot 2008 and they were excellent.

In my next post I'll sort out some photos showing the before and after.

These WhiteVision are not the cheapest** of the 'improved' bulbs, but I think they are probably the best for better range, spread, whiteness, durability and clarity.

Photos and links to follow. http://www.philips.co.uk/c-m-li/Whitevision.html

**See my links in post #4 below for better prices.
 
Discussion starter · #2 · (Edited)
These Philips images are not too far from the truth as I was amazed by the improvement:

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As I mentioned; not the cheapest of the upgraded headlight bulbs but - as I have tested these - I would certainly recommend them.

I'll post some comparison photos of my 2008 in the next post.
 

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Discussion starter · #3 · (Edited)
These are my dipped beams in my 2008.

Standard OEM bulb (Dipped beam - the creamy brown on the right):
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This is the WhiteVision (Dipped - left) compared to BlueVision Ultra (Main - right):
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This is my 2008 testing the Dipped beam only:
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I took this picture from my drivers seat after parking in my garage. Unfortunately my daughters car is blocking the offside beam (drivers side). Excellent illumination and range of the nearside though.

This is dipped beam only.

I'd call that a result.

I had just got back after dropping my daughter off at Birmingham Airport and I was amazed at the difference these Philips WhiteVision have made.

I cut through some unlit roads and really didn't need to use the main beam.

These Philips WhiteVision are the best Halogen I've fitted for dipped beam.
 

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Discussion starter · #4 · (Edited)
A couple of videos for you to ponder over:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTc8jGqdSMo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asHMnMJAtLg



I found this comparison of the Philips WhiteVision up against another leading contender for upgraded bulbs:


Philips WhiteVision


Purpose Vision & Style

Voltage 12v
Application Headlight/Foglight

Approx Light Output Increase +60% beam performance.
Wattage 55W
Approx Bulb Life (hours) 450
Approx Colour Temperature (Kelvin) 4300
E Marked/Road Legal Yes
Other Details
Colour Output Maximum White Light



Ring Xenon 130


Purpose Maximum Vision

Voltage 12v
Application Headlight/Foglight

Approx Light Output Increase 130%
Wattage 55W
Approx Bulb Life (hours)
Approx Colour Temperature (Kelvin) 3700 Lumens
E Marked/Road Legal Yes
Other Details


The Kelvin Value (Lumens) of the Philips is better, giving a whiter light (which I prefer). Philips is +60%; Ring +30%. Both should have similar life expectancy although it isn't stated for the Ring.

Having tested various 'road legal' bulbs previously the Philips WhiteVision is, in my opinion, the ones to go for: H7 twin pack
or:
 
Discussion starter · #5 ·
In view of the bargain price for the Dipped Beam H7 from Amazon** at the moment I think it would be a good idea to upgrade these first.

A majority of night driving is on dipped beam so upgrading these now is a no-brainer. You can do the Main Beam next month. :nod:

If you do upgrade then please give us all a report back with before and after photos....we all love looking at the photos...:thumb:

Al.

**...other suppliers are available at different costs.
 
Discussion starter · #6 · (Edited)
I've just found this youtube video of a road test for the Philips WhiteVision.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-nqj9-IBhk

Shows how white they are and how well they illuminate at night on the road. Actual road test starts at 5:50 minutes. He does switch on his main beam Diamond Vision towards the end of the road test but that's not until 12:52 . That means he's on an unlit road for most of the test using only Dipped Beam with Philips WhiteVision.

Al.
 
Discussion starter · #8 · (Edited)
I was thinking that some members may find this Peugeot 2008 Thread of interest regarding upgrading the Dipped/Main Beam Headlights:

Upgrading Dipped/Main Beam - Peugeot 2008 Forums - Page 1

Remember that your bulb cap fitting may be different from the actual bulbs I tested but in the many photos you can see the massive difference they make when compared to the OEM bulbs.

I did many comparisons for the 2008 Owners Club and you can find the links here:

Technical - Peugeot 2008 Forums - Page 1

Click on 'Bulb change to LED' for the list of links.

Have fun. Al. :thumb:


PS: You'll see some familiar photos and reviews as I've continued to update the 2008 threads as well as our 308 threads. This helps the 2008 members keep up-to-date.
 
Discussion starter · #12 · (Edited)
Hi John, check your cap fitting and have a look at Amazon.

I found this pair of H7 at a really good price: [ame]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-12972WHVSM-WhiteVision-Halogen-Headlamp/dp/B00MZQUIRW/[/ame]


I can recommend Philips WhiteVision as I have tried many different types in my previous cars. WhiteVision is definitely the best in my opinion for range, spread and whiteness.

Have fun.

Al.


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Discussion starter · #16 · (Edited)
Auto-levelling is also a factor (which we have with the LED headlights).

Lenses and reflectors are also designed for particular bulbs. Changing the bulb or 'light source' to a different kind will give a different beam pattern.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headlamp#Lens_cleaners

An LED headlight has a different lens system which is protected from the elements as it is inside the headlight unit.

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Discussion starter · #22 ·
Lol the indicators are ok but I have no fogs....as I have the GT not GT Line which has fogs. I think the "GT" needs the air scoops for intake.

...:mygod: I was just about to add 'if you have a GT Line'.....but you beat me to it.

Think of all the other plus features you have though...:copcar:

Al. :eek:
 
Discussion starter · #24 · (Edited)
Lol Yes some features which switch themselves off every now and then (automatic braking). But I do like the sport button when I've had a crap day.
I nearly went for a GT Line 150 glad I paid a bit more but wish I had paid a few pounds more for SW.

I've just realised why they don't put fog lights on the GT......those air intakes suck the fog out of the way...:thumb:

Al :topic:
 
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They look much better, i have thought about LED headlights for a while now. But they are always massive heatsinks attached to the back, you would need to leave the rear rubber of the headlamp which would let dirt and water in the lamp.

This looks like it would fit perfectly, as long as you can have it on for 5 hours + without it catching on fire!
Hi Paul, yes the heatsinks are a problem. Hopefully these will have micro fans.

Al.
 
Discussion starter · #34 · (Edited)
Photobucket have decided they want to charge me $60 to allow 3rd party hosting so that you can view my pictures.

I decided to add the photos as thumbnails so that you can still see them.

Just click on a thumbnail at the bottom of the post to view a larger picture.


UPDATE: I've transferred my photos to 'flickr' so I've been able to re-load them all...for free: https://www.flickr.com/


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