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Do I scrap my 307 1.6 HDi

149 views 10 replies 5 participants last post by  Tones1st208  
#1 ·
Hi
I have a 2004 307 Hdi 1.6 estate, owned since 2008. It was all fine until Ulez kicked in; I was starting it every few weeks until the starter motor packed up. I didn't realise how incredibly awkward it is to change; we have another ulez compliant car so no longer need the car and I have little incentive to fix the starter. I also noticed a front spring has cracked as well so I am thinking it's best to scrap the car. Just wondering what other people think as the car is worth very little.

TIA
 
#2 ·
Hello, ULEZ seem to be something in London area? Sorry about my bad english. Do not own a 307 HDI, have a much older 306 HDI 2.0. But i do not think that it is that difficult to change a starter motor. You maybe need some special tools that you maybe can "produce" by yourself. Changing front shock absorber is also not that complicated. Maybe you will try to get a used front wheel suspension, it is realatively easy to change. got a used part from france for about 60€ including shipping to germany. Maybe the vehicle isn't worth much money, but it's my vehicle. It has a very high value to me.
 
#5 ·
Hi unfortunately the starter motor must be in a different location to your car. If you Google it you will see it's a nightmare to access. I have removed the battery tray and gone underneath the car and still can't even see it, let alone access it. Some manager at Peugeot must have had a grudge against humanity and agreed it was a great idea.
 
#6 ·
IIRC its easily accessible if you take off the front right wheel and remove the wheel arch liner.

Don't scrap it, especially if it has a good MOT history of few failures and / or advisories.

And especially if its the 90bhp model without a dual mass flywheel and DPF.
 
#8 · (Edited)
I have done it on my 307 petrol, it's not massively difficult.
It can be done without removing the wheel, and the pic of the starter motor fixings is very useful so you know what you are trying to find.
It doesn't show the electrical connections though. I found the most tedious (not difficult) was to disconnect the one to energise the solenoid, it probably has an 8 mm nut: the best tool I found was a deep 8mm socket, with an extension bar longer than the starter motor if available, you can then get good rotation on the handle.
A shorter extension just needs more ratcheting on the handle as its hampered by obstacles.
The thread is actually M6 so if you have a deep 10mm socket you can put a 10mm hex nut on and use that on reassembly.
You will need to be underneath the car to extract it from the engine bay, trial and error scenario for the orientation it is in vs. where you can get it past obstacles.
The other thing once it is off you may find it is just the brushes have jammed in their holders so a bit of cleaning inside may sort it and you may not need to replace it as such. Also clean up the shaft that the gear slides up and down on with some white spirit or something.
 
#9 ·
As a matter of interest have you been able to check the strength of the cars battery? starting it up every now and then is good but vehicles really need a half decent run at least a few times a month in order to maintain the state of battery charge, starter motors are generally quite reliable (not to say that they don't fail, they certainly do) but a weakened battery can try and start a car but the amperage drawn by the starter motor will suck any remaining power out of a battery very quickly and can sometimes give the starter "some" power to activate but not enough for it to fully engage thus sometimes causing an unpleasant chattering sound from the starter when it fails to engage due to an insufficient power supply. My suggestion, if you've not already done this is to give the battery a good trickle charge, maybe over a day or two and if it's still serviceable it may well recover, then refit it and try the car again. If you have access to another suitable vehicle you could even try jump starting it and see if if fires up normally.

Broken suspension springs are in fact quite common, I've changed many on all makes of cars in my past including 3 on my own 307, most local garages can change springs or if you wanted, like someone previously suggested you could try buying a complete suspension strut off of ebay and swap the whole assembly. Unless there are other major issues i would think the car is worth saving.
 
#11 · (Edited)
The starter motor engages with a gear around the edge of the flywheel. The flywheel is between the engine and gearbox.
The starter sits above the drive shaft which comes in from the bottom left corner of your pics.
You really need to get under the car to see it, but will need a trolley jack and axles stands as you cannot drive it up onto something like thick blocks of wood as I did.
At least taking off the wheel arch liner allows some light in there!
Even though this may seem a ball ache I still think its got to be worth doing because as/when you come to sell it a runner is better than a non-runner!