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Does anyone know if there is a year change date, when the gear change which selects reverse to the left and up by first gear became the standard box fitted to the 1997cc Expert? Also does anyone know if other model boxes will fit an Expert with this reverse change pattern? Thanks, Dave.
 

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Didn't give a date because that was the question!!! Some boxes fitted to the 1997 Hdi vans select reverse to the right and down and some select reverse to the left and up. My question was is there a year when one ceased to be fitted or could either be fitted regardless of the year?
 

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There are 2 different experts thats my point we need to know what age you are talking about to give the correct answer !!

As i already said all boxes up to euro 5 versions have the same reverse position so your question is too vague to give an accurate answer

Older vans box wont fit newer van as clutch system changed but it would bolt in and could be MADE to fit and vice versa you could put later 6 speed in older van if you altered a few things as for the gear selection system it wont matter as long as the cables fit the box you will get all the gears.

Ask the correct question ie what you are trying to do and we could give a better answer.
 

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Ok ALL early models used the same 5 speed box as long as it is an HDI they are all the same they use a pull type clutch. 20LM OR 20 LE codes

NONE of the early models have reverse below 5th unless its NOT an hdi engine
 

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Thats a mk1 expert and they may have used that box to start with but from the facelift in 2004 ALL had reverse next to first and im pretty sure they changed to the better box before the facelift they continued when the next generation expert with the 6 speed boxes with reverse next to first it was not altered till the euro 5 vans in around 2012
 
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