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Evening all,

After a long wait I'm joining the exclusive ranks of Traveller people tomorrow. This will be my first new car ever and I plan to keep it a long time.

With the benefit of the experience you have of your travellers (or spacetourer), is there anything you suggest I check on the car when I collect it?

My list so far is:
- mapping version
- tom tom live activated
- software version
- check all options are present

The car is an amber red Allure standard 180, all options.

Cheers,

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Check the wheel nuts. When mine arrived, while not loose, they were not tight either. Tyre pressures were slightly low as well.

Check the emergency kit under the drivers seat to ensure that everything shown in the manual is present.

Check that the spare wheel hasn't been nicked in transit (not unheard of with vans)

Mine didn't have much adblue in it upon delivery and took about 14 litres.

If you have ordered the tow bar it will come with 13 pin electrics so you may need an adaptor if you normally use 7 pin.

Measure the height so you will know if it will go into car parks. Where I live there are several car parks at 1.9 m headroom. When I measured my car it was a smidge under 1.89m at its highest so will just about go in. The highest point seems to be the hinges on the rear tailgate. I measured the cars height by laying a thin wood batten across the roof at various places and measured to the ground from where the batten overhangs the side of the car.

I also checked all the fluids under the bonnet. The bonnet needs to be slammed quite hard to secure it.

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Hi Meeper,
welcome to our very exclusive club!

As Yobbo says, I agree with it all.

One other thing, I'm currently in conversation with my local Peugeot about the auxiliary heater (Webasto) that's on the allures. Not sure if the Spacetourer has it?
During the very cold weather recently I wasn't convinced it was working so I went into the dealers and asked about it. The service dude looked it up and confirmed there was one (I knew that cos I had seen it) and also there should possibly have been a "plip" provided that should go with it so it can be turned on to warm the car before you get in on a cold morning.
I've got to take the Traveller in sometime over the next couple of days to have the whole issue investigated further.
Do you have anything like that Meeper or Yobbo??

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Grumpy, my understanding which may not be 100% is that the Webasto supplied to the UK is fully automatic. That means that it doesn't come with a remote control. From what I have observed only the cold countries get the remote where you can set the timer. The UK Webasto should provide heat in the first few minutes after start up until the engine warms. It is described in the Citroen brochure as 'Additional non-programmable Wabasto heating' although I have not seen the Peugeot equivalent brochure so it may be different there. It only seems to be fitted in the best versions of the car like your own.
 

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Thanks for the reply Yobbo,
in the Traveller there are 2 types according to the handbook. Pages 139 & 140. The first is programmable as you mention. The second has a plip that just turns it on and off.
Anyway, when I take it in to be investigated I'll get back to you.
They are going to look in the settings to see if it hasn't been turned on. And also to see if the plip should be with the car. LAst ditch will be buy a plip at £130 if the system can be turned on through the diagnostics..

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Hi All

Thanks for all of the advice. Here is my progress to date.

Happily, pressures and levels were all ok.

Storage:
I have orderd a couple of the plastic boxes yobbo suggested in his other post, very useful info.

My emergency wheel changing kit is under the passenger seat. I had been planning to buy a spare emergency kit box to use under the driver's seat but there is no room. @Yobbo - if you don't have electric seats and you need some more storage you might be able to do this.


Software, mapping and connectivity:
My tom tom maps seem to be active now, (tom tom displayed in the bottom right corner of the map). Out of interest, do you cars need a mobile phone to access live traffic info or does the car obtain this by itself (in which case I assume it has a built in GSM data unit of its own)?

Do any of you use the "peugeot connect" apps with your car?

The dealer tells me the mapping and software were all updated before handover. Can any of you tell me if these versions match yours:
Maps: CI-TT-PSA.P3CNS.U-MAP.EUR.TTC-4.0.2
System: 21.05.90.42_NAC-r0

Heating:
@Grumpy - I've also been interested in a remote start for the webasto. Unfortuately this (and a heated windscreen) is only available in "cold" climates. That said, webasto do often offer upgrade kits for cars that are factory fitted with their heaters but don't have the remote. See links below:
https://www.webasto.com/gb/markets-products/car/retrofit-parking-heater/our-parking-heaters/luxury-class/
https://www.webasto.com/fileadmin/webasto_files/documents/country-folder/germany/car/campaigns/Car-Dieselaufruestkitliste_2012.pdf

The list of covered cars hasn't been updated since 2012, so it might be worth contacting them.

Looking at the peugeot service box parts diagrams for the aux heater, it looks like you would need some sort of part added to the car (maybe a receiver), in addition to the key fob. I would expect some sort of config of the car would be required so that the webasto could activate the car water pump and cabin fans, and possibly turn off the volumetric part of the alarm.

Tyres:
I'm trying to resolve an issue with the tyres the car came with. As I ordered grip control and the car came fitted with full winter tyres. (Michelin agilis alpin). The brochure said the tyres would be 3PMS (3 peak mountain snowflake) rated, but I was expecting something all season such as a michelin cross climate as a full on winter tyre isn't suitable for year round use. I'm waiting to hear back from the dealer on a solution. Ideally he can fit something 3PMS rated, but all season.

Thanks for all of your help,

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Hi Meeper,

Updates:
PSA_ovip-int-firmware-version_21-06-47-34_NAC-r0_NAC_EUR_WAVE2.ta

PSA_map-eur_7.0 I believe there is a newer version of maps just recently released.

Heater:
I had mine investigated yesterday and the dealer says there's an issue with it and it has never worked. ( I didn't think so!!)
They are ordering the replacement that's listed and is also an upgraded version. This version includes a pump that's connected to the heating system of the car.
They looked at the details for it within the software that will require updating after fitting and the service manager is pretty sure the "plip" option will be possible to be enabled.
So I have ordered a plip and we'll see when it's all fitted weather he's right..

Data:
Mine has to be connected via my phone. I'm guessing yours is sim enabled if you already have TomTom Traffic showing in the bottom right hand corner and not tethered your phone..

Apps:
I only use the My Peugeot App.

Tyres:
Mine came with Michelin Primacy 3s and I've since changed onto Michelin CrossClimate+. Brilliant tyres I've been impressed with while we've had the snow over the last couple of weeks in the UK. Great all round tyre so I'll be keeping them on over the summer to see how they wear..

Question?:

What part of the world are you in?

How are you finding the MPG? The brochure says 47mpg extra urban but I'm lucky if i make 37mpg!

Do you have the SOS/Peugeot contact function buttons overhead near the map reading lights?

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Before ordering I did some internet research on the grip control and noticed that the tyre supplied was the Agilis winter which I didnt think would be suitable as my actual experience tells me that winter tyres do grip less and wear more in the higher temperatures of Spring. Goodness knows how Traveller owners with the Agilis winter cope with it in a Mediterranean summer. I also had worries about the ride qualty as its a heavy duty van tyre. I didnt go for grip control for these reasons but might have done so if it had been delivered with an all season tyre like the Crossclimate as grumpy suggests. I havent made my mind up yet, but in late summer I will either go for an all season tyre, or alternatively buy a second set of wheels with winters, but that means a £1200 investment. My previous MPV had a separate set of winters between November and April and I never regretted buying them. The chap I sold them to emailed me last week to say he was stunned how good they were in the recent snow.

Because the tools are under the driving seat I have space under the passenger seat and I use that space to store my emergency fluorescent jacket that I might need should I come to grief somewhere.

I cant get mirror link to work on mine, but a bluetooth connection works to play music and potentially for the phone to work but I have never tried the phone.

I have not looked at the software.
 

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Hi Yobbo,

if you take a look at the Michelin CrossClimate+ literature you'll see they have been derived from Summer tyres rather than Winters, like all other 4 season tyres.. As I said I'm planning to leave mine on for the warmer months to see how they perform, both from handling and longevity.
By the time the Autumn comes I should have some info to tell you about my findings.

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Heater:
I had mine investigated yesterday and the dealer says there's an issue with it and it has never worked. ( I didn't think so!!)
They are ordering the replacement that's listed and is also an upgraded version. This version includes a pump that's connected to the heating system of the car.
They looked at the details for it within the software that will require updating after fitting and the service manager is pretty sure the "plip" option will be possible to be enabled.
So I have ordered a plip and we'll see when it's all fitted weather he's right..

Grumpy
Interested in this development as it will definitely put Traveler at the very very top of new car list. And its at number 1 already

The Owners Manual for the 2018 model gives either Programmable or Plip Options. Now the Specs says Non-Programmable thus logically the Plip option should be available as standard. Also should be a button next the drivers right knee???

The Owners Manual lists both but doesn't appear to stipulate its only available in certain countries unlike the heated windscreen which has a * next to the item in the aforementioned manual.

There is also mention the one fitted to UK vehicles is automatic but again this isnt mentioned in any literature i have found
 

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Interested in this development as it will definitely put Traveler at the very very top of new car list. And its at number 1 already

The Owners Manual for the 2018 model gives either Programmable or Plip Options. Now the Specs says Non-Programmable thus logically the Plip option should be available as standard. Also should be a button next the drivers right knee???

The Owners Manual lists both but doesn't appear to stipulate its only available in certain countries unlike the heated windscreen which has a * next to the item in the aforementioned manual.

There is also mention the one fitted to UK vehicles is automatic but again this isnt mentioned in any literature i have found
Update:
I'm waiting for the dealer to contact me when the parts are in. They did say there is n't any parts in the UK so will be a while. (what ever that means?)
Soon as I know more I'll let you know.

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@yobbo - interesting that you uncovered the van tyres. I knew the tyres would be narrower (215 v 225) but I had assumed they would fit cross climates. I am finding the ride quite hard which I don't remember from my original test drive without grip control. Hopefully the dealer will be willing to help as winter tyres are really not suitable for year round use. Cross climates do exist in that size in a 100 load rating which is more than enough for the max load of the car. Worst case would be to switch back to 225 width tyres for the summer and keep the agilis 215s for winter (225 are to wide for snow chains).

I agree with you on your winter tyres point, I have run two sets of wheels on my cars for the last 15 years or so.

@Grumpy - Great that you are able to order a "plip" for you car. I would be interested in doing the same; are you able to obtain details of the part numbers your dealer is fitting?

I do have the sos and connect buttons, but haven't pressed them. I think these were added to the standard allure spec sometime over the summer.

I'm based in Guildford.

I don't do that many miles so I can't say anything helpful on MPG yet as I have yet to cover 100 miles. I'm heading over to France soon so should be able to get an initial idea from that trip.

I'm really pleased to have found some fellow travellers!
 

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Hi youall,

Voltzs, Welcome :)
I've spoken to the dealer just now and He'll get the part numbers for the Webasto and stuff for me after the weekend as he's busy at the moment.

Meeper, the sos buttons had actually been in the brochure when I ordered my Allure so I was supprised when it turned up without them. It didn't make a lot of difference in the end because the phone tethering works absolutely floorlessly. It really doesn't use a lot of data.

Just out of interest, my allure came fitted with Michelin 3 225/55/17 W (101). I didn't see a lot of use for the GC for me so didn't bother with it. Glad I invested in the Michelin CrossClimate+ though.

If you take a look here:
https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/?utf8=✓&q=Peugeot+traveller&commit=Search
you'll see there aren't many Traveller Allure owners in the country.

Not that many Spacetourers either!!
https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/?utf8=✓&q=Citreon+spacetourer

Makes me feel a little exclusive as we actually are!

One other thing,

as far as software/ map updates are concerned if you have a look here:
http://www.peugeotforums.com/forums/3008-2017-138/quick-links-reading-apps-269794/
under Map & System Software Links, it tells you how to do the updates yourself. I know it's the 3008 forum but the TomTom in our Travellers are intrinsically the same. It worked for me.

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Thanks for the Satnav links. It takes a while but all updated now. It looks like the dealer didn't update the maps or the software as part of the PDI despite assuring me he had. <grumble>

Next challenge - fitting headlamp adapters for driving on the continent. The dealer assures me these are required as he says the xenon's don't have a flat beam pattern. Shining the dipped headlights onto a flat wall this evening the pattern looks very flat...

Have any of you fitted eurolites or other headlamp adapters to yours?
 

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Next challenge - fitting headlamp adapters for driving on the continent. The dealer assures me these are required as he says the xenon's don't have a flat beam pattern. Shining the dipped headlights onto a flat wall this evening the pattern looks very flat...

Have any of you fitted eurolites or other headlamp adapters to yours?
Hi Meeper,

I haven't been outside the UK so haven't had to worry about it. I looked at my headlights last night and mine seem flat too!

I'd be inclined to contact Peugeot customer Services and ask them. It'll be a faff but better than having to mess with adapters if you don't need them.

I still haven't heard anything with ref. to the webasto as yet. Probably be after Easter now.

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I contacted peugeot customer services before the car arrived, they told me to speak to the dealer.

The dealer stated emphatically that the car would not be legal on the continent without headlamp adapters.

Having now seen my pictures the dealer says the beam is flat and should be fine without adapters! Peugeot must know this stuff, but it does seem hard to get access to technical information from them.

I'm going to ask for a more concrete statement from the dealer, but won't be fitting headlamp adapters for now.
 

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Just an update,
Traveller going in for service Monday and they're going to sort the Webasto at last. Bit ironic that we just had the warmest April day for 70 years.. Guess I'm not going to be able to play with my new plip for a while..

Anyway, I'll update with my experiences next week sometime.

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Just an update,
Traveller going in for service Monday and they're going to sort the Webasto at last. Bit ironic that we just had the warmest April day for 70 years.. Guess I'm not going to be able to play with my new plip for a while..

Anyway, I'll update with my experiences next week sometime.

Grumpy
So many people are adamant the UK version has the fully automatic Webasto (and its just for engine heating) (FB Group) yet the Traveller manual has none of it

I know yours is a 2017 model and have the system fitted as yours existing one wasn't working. Question is do 2018 models have the Plip as standard or is it extra

As ever Grumpy many thanks for the update
 
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