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I recently bought Peugeot307SW 2.0HDI 90KS.Seller gave to me one key with remote controls that are working.I know that there is a keygen that can extract PIN code from VIN and i think that seller has other key and PIN but didnt give them to me.I am electrical engineer and i am good in what i do.This is my first Peugeot car and i dont have a lot expirience in this area.But i am very skilled and can do anything whats needed.My questions are:

1. - Is it possible to change PIN code and reprogram existing key and new one which i want to buy?
2. - If i register only this one key that i have as "the only" able to to do ignition of the car, can someone who know my PIN make clone key?
3. - Can Zed Bull on available on Aliexpress do this job?
4. - Which interface i have to buy to see all errors and do keys management if link at question N.3 is not good?

Thank you all in advance and please have understanding for my bad english.
 

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1- Nope, You need the PIN for the car. You can change the pin but that means replacing the ECU, BSI along with the matching keys as a set
2) - Yes & NO. Anyone with the right equipment and PIN can create a cloned key BUT the car will only start with a key that has been programmed to the car's BSI
3) - No idea - I don't use Aliexpress and never will
4) - You will need PP2000 and / or Diagbox along with an Actia (PSA XS Evolution) interface commonly but incorrectly referred to as Lexia. Lexia is actually the Citroen diagnostic software.

You will also need a laptop running 32 bit XP for PP2000. For Diagbox, 32 bit XP, Win 7 or Win 8. You can run these on 64 bit software but will need the right 32 bit OS running as a virtual machine to do this.

The diagnostic tool can be found on ebay with a search for Peugeot diagnostic tool!
 

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Thank you!

Thank you for clarification.I cant post links here about what i asked related to Aliexpress becouse i have no enough posts to deserve that right.....i will use pp.Please if possible let me to send messages to administrators without 20 posts if possible.I dont want to write anything just to get to 20 posts becouse i am not that kind of person.
 

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Not got any issues with you mentioning Aliexpress. All I meant was that I cannot answer your question regarding Zed Bull as I have never used Aliexpress and after reading some horrendous reports about transactions carried out there I don't intend to find out if they are justified or not.

I'm pretty sure some of the members of these forums have made purchases from Aliexpress and haven't had any bad experiences but it is a decision I made a long time ago and see no reason to change my mind. There are many other places to find what I need.

If Zed Bull says he can program a key then he probably can. If you lived in the UK then I would highly recommend one of our own members who is a qualified auto locksmith. He goes by the name of Trustme. I have dealt with him via ebay and would have no problems dealing with him again should the need arise. If you had the PIN for the key I'm sure he could program a new one and post it to you but it would still need to be programmed in the car so it will unlock the ecu and allow the car to start.
 

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A copy zedbull will bit clone id 46 if you have a genuine zedbull and tph cloner you can clone Id46 but on Peugeot it's quicker easier and cheaper to program another key but you need 4 digit pin this is not decoded from vin but can be obtained using the vin or extracted from the ecu or bsi
 

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This is what i can see about zed bull:


" Sm-art Zed-BULL is a transponder cloning device which contains all of Zed-Qx's features and also has more additional features.Zed-Bull support 8C and 8E chips distinguish function and it is a multi-language key programmer
Smart Zed-Bull with Mini Type No Tokens Limitation

Item Specifics

Model:Sm-art Zed-Bull
Custom Clearance: Low value on the invoice to pass custom
Type:Auto Key Programmer Tool
Language:English
Update:Can not update
Make: No Tokens limited for Smart Zed-Bull

Compare SMART ZED-BULL with ZED-BULL:SMART ZED-BULL gain 30% reading and writing speed.SMART ZED-BULL improve the success rate up to 99.99%, which will eliminate the waste of chip.(As we all know, some chip can be written only once)

Mini Zed-Bull Description

1.New: support 8C and 8E chips distinguish function
2.Language: English, Turkish, Italian, Spanish and Portuguese
3.Zed-BULL will fulfill all of your requirements as professional on Immobilizer Systems;
4.Zed-BULL is a transponder cloning device which contains all of Zed-Qx's features and also has more additional features.

Main Feature of ZED-Bull

1. Finding PIN Code, preparing precoded transponders and programming transponders from EEPROM and MCU.

Zed-BULL PC software is excellent features will help you while using EEPROM applications. ECU pictures, which ECU has which MCU or EEPROM and the location of mcu or eeprom on the board, which type transponder will be used... These kind of information will ease your work. With Automatic Module Finding (AMF) feature, when you select the EEPROM file, the module will be recognized automatically
Another revolution of Zed-BULL is programming transponders when there is no key from ECUs. For now, Zed-BULL has 55 different applications and it is increasing... With this feature, you can program transponders, find pin codes and prepare precoded transponders for the cars which need precoded transponders like fiat doblo 48. For this feature, you don't need expensive precoded transponders priced about 8-10 Euro. You can use blank transponders.

2.Transponder Cloning

11, 12, 13, 33, 73, 4C (writing to 4C electronic key and battery less TPX1 transponder), P-h-i-l-i-p-s Crypto 40 (some), 41(all), 42(all), 44(all unlocked VAG), 45(all), Texas crypto 4D(all 60-61-62-63-64-65-67)to battery less TPX2 and Silca electronic heads
Until now, common transponder cloning tools could only copy fixed transponders. But the revolution that we started with our device, Zed-Qx, is increasing with Zed-BULL. 41(NI-SSAN), 42(VA-G), 44(Unlocked VA-G) and 45(PEU-GEOT) transponders which normally known as can not be copied, can be copied with Zed-BULL. Also you can copy 4C transponders onto batteryless TPX1 4C glass transponders

3. Producing Transponders for OBD Programming

If you have an OBD device like T-Code Pro, you will need special precoded transponders for some cars. Instead of buying these special transponders for high prices, you can produce them with Zed-BULL using blank transponders. And you don't need expensive precoded transponders priced about 8-10 Euro... The transponders that you can produce: 40, 41, 42, 44 Mit-su-bishi, 44 V-AG, 45, 73 Mit-subishi, 61, 62, 65 and 46 for B-M-/W, A-U-D/I, P-O-R-S-C-H-E, CH-RY-SL-ER, RE-NA-ULT... etc. For now, Zed-BULL has 24 different transponder production applications.

4. USB communication and fast update

You can update your Zed-BULL in less than 30 seconds and use your Zed-BULL with PC via USB

5. Hitag2 Transponder Programmer

If you want to buy a hitag2 programmer as standalone device, you have to pay around 1000-1500 Euro. But when you have Zed-BULL, you will get this hitag2 programmer feature for FREE. You can work on hitag2 transponders and improve yourself on your job.

6. Easy Use with Wide Graphic LCD Screen.

Wide screen of Zed-BULL will show you much more.... With Zed-Bull is wide screen, you can see more information like, VIN number and kilometer info for B-M-/W cars, detailed information for 46 and 48 transponders ... etc.

7.Additional function

1) Reading kilometer, VIN number and key number information from original B-M-/W key and writing to original B-M-/W remote key
2) Finding PIN code from VIN number for HY-UN-DAI and KI-A
3) PC software includes a wide-range transponder catalog, key fob procedures and more information
4) PIN code finding for 33 Re-na-ult and 45 Pe-ug-eot from transponder
5) Unlocking the 48(magic II) type locked transponder and make it re -usable
6) Saving transponder information into database including crypto transponders
7) 3 different device case color alternatives (red, black). "
 

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This is about Lexia full chip:

Description
PP2000/LEXIA-3 Interface latest version, works for both Citreon and Peugeot!
Dealer diagnostic scanner for comprehensive Citroen and Peugeot cars diagnostic.
You can do all as a authorized dealer does.

This diagnostics software allows you to perform complete diagnostics of all from 1995 untill present models.

Diagnostics is performed via OBD-II connector (which is located near steering wheel) or via manufacturer-specific connector (only older cars, pre-2001).


Supported functions
Unlike other universal car scanner tools which only read fault codes, this software performs nearly ALL the functions like the original dealer diagnostic tool.

Our diagnostic interface contains K-Line multiplexor, CAN-BUS interfaces and SAE J1850 bus (both PWM and VPW).

The following diagnostic functions are supported:

Read identification
Displays complete identification of control unit, e.g. part number, software/hardware version, manufacturer, etc...

Read fault codes
Displays all stored and pending fault codes with complete description (e.g. "Rail pressure - too low pressure").
Program supports report printing or copy to clipboard.

Clear fault codes
This function clears all stored fault codes and other diagnostic information.

Auto-scan (complete car scan/test)
Detects all ECUs (electronic control units) installed in car and reads all diagnostic fault codes.

Measured Values
Program displays live Data like Engine Speed, Battery voltage, Oxygen Sensor, Coolant Temperature, etc. Values can be displayed in graph, 9 values at once, or full listing (all measured values).

Logging to file is also supported, which allows offline analysis.

Actuator test
Actuator test activates particular actuator (e.g. turn on fuel pump, lock/unlock wheel, lock/unlock doors, cut off fuel, etc..)

Programming functions/Adaptation
This feature is of great importance in all vehicles because systems like Engine control units, Immobilizers, Airbags, Alarms, Body Control Units, and some others, require you to perform reset or programming procedures after car repair is done, or even configuration after replacing broken Control Unit.

Hardware and software requirements
Software requires at least Intel Celeron/Pentium III 400 MHz, 128 MB RAM, 50MB free HDD space and USB 1.1 port (USB 2.0 recommended) and Microsoft Windows 98 SR2/2000/XP with the latest service pack installed.
If customer requires, we can prepare ready to work PC.

Set includes:
Main unit with extension OBD2 cable
USB cable
Software CD for LEXIA-3 Version 45
Software CD for PP2000 Version 22

Optional Adapter
* S.1279 Module for PPS2000 (Click 3530032 to buy),pls contact the seller online
30 PIN cable for Citreon Diagnostic Tool (Click 3530033 to buy),pls contact the seller online
 

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Well the zed bull will be useless as your car is id46 transponder and that zed bull don't do them also a cloned chip will not work on a remote at all, you to obtain your pin using the vintage code (I can do this for 25) then use pp2000 to program the key but it is always best to confirm vin using pp2000 as if someone has changed b so and ecu set then the vin and pin will be different
 

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Hi,

Thank you for fast answers.What i have found till now is a tool named handy baby (for cloning keys only) which can do job in 5 minutes.Also there is Smart CN900 micro tool which also can clone key which i have.Lexia on other side can do diagnostics and can manage keys if i have pin code which i dont.Also i have found for 15USD pin code + key code from vin on on site.Now i have dilema what is best to do.Thank you for elimination of Zed Bull.In last few days i have figured out all about what i need and how all is working.
 

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You use lexia/pp2000 to program the key to the car, so forget about cloning. Even if the gear were to work it is far too expensive for single use.You need a new (unprogrammed) key fob, because the transponder in the fob is write-once.

To get your PIN, you need the VIN of the car, and go to http://www.carkeycodes.co.uk/
 
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