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Hi.
I noticed under the rubber car mat on the drivers side, the carpet was soaked. I'm thinking it is rain water, as it doesn't smell of anything.
Can anyone shed any light on, what could be causing this to happen please?
The passenger side is fine and dry!

Many thanks for any help received.
 

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Sounds like the plastic sheet behind your door card is f*cked ,can`t mind of hand somewhere in region of £20 from dealer ,a new bit of underlay from your local carpet shop to replace the underlay under your carpet because it never drys out and stinks if left.
 

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Sorry for delay in replying.
Many thanks for your advice. So the rain is running in from the drivers door? I may take the door inserts off at the weekend to take a look. Guess I can not repair this, without a replacement card then. Is there anything that it may be, or is this a common cause to this problem?
It does smell a bit like you'd said. The inside of the windscreen sometimes look moist too, guess this is due to a damp carpet. To replace the underlay, is this a fairly easy job, or would I need a fitter to remove and replace?

Sorry for all the questions ;)
 

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Yes its common and no you don`t need a fitter pull carpet back and cut out felt and replace just go easy near any wires and you`ll be fine .
 

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sorry to hijack mines the same do you mean the door plastic membrane just behind the door fasia/trim the goes over all the holes ? wine had 1/2" of water in it when i got it never realized until i pushed down on the carpet and water came up from it
 

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Yes ktnch, you need to check the membrane behind the door card.

I still haven't found my fault. It's not my door card. I ran water all around the door, with no sign of the water getting in.

Today I noticed the passenger side is also becoming damp too. I have noticed some water inside at the bottom of my windscreen, inbetween when the dash meets the bottom of the windscreen in the corners.
I'm going to get the windscreen fittings checked out tomorrow.
The driver side is getting worse. I can not see the waters path to the footwell though, since apart from the floor, nothing else is wet! It's even dry under the foot peddles, so if its not the windscreen leaking then I'm stumped! :confused:

Here are some photos outside, where it looks like a loose seal could be letting water in. What do you think?





 

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Took my car to a windscreen specialist today. They said it is letting in water, but unsure exactly where. I'm getting the windscreen replaced tomorrow, so will report back if this solves anymore water coming into the car. Really hope so.

Just to add ref my photos above. They don't think the rubber loose in above photo would be causing any leakage of water.

Thanks

Does anyone know how to remove the driver side carpet? I tried earlier but it's very well tucked in all around. Concerned I may not get it back down again properly if pulled out from surrounds.
 

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i know people with the same car as me, ford (i know not peugeot) have had similar problems with soaked footwells...turns out its something to do with the aircon...i think they may have said condenser or compressor...just a shot in the dark to try and help.

also on another note, i can remember a user on here complaining of a similar fault and it turned out there was a bolt/nut missing and he could see the tarmac below, but he had to remove all the carpet to see it.
 

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mrpaul said:
Took my car to a windscreen specialist today. They said it is letting in water, but unsure exactly where. I'm getting the windscreen replaced tomorrow, so will report back if this solves anymore water coming into the car. Really hope so.

Just to add ref my photos above. They don't think the rubber loose in above photo would be causing any leakage of water.

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Does anyone know how to remove the driver side carpet? I tried earlier but it's very well tucked in all around. Concerned I may not get it back down again properly if pulled out from surrounds.


Hi mate had same fault footwell soaking on my 307 seals the same condition all i did was removed leaves and debris from under bonnet where the water runs off from window screen.As for removing carpet pretty easy carpet comes away from plastic strip under door and pull carpet over the black lugs by foot pedals and unscrew two infront of seat hope this makes sense.good luck
 

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No on mine it was swimming never realised when i bought it as it had car mats the water was just sat in the foot well so couldnt of been from the aircon
 

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Lift up the bonnet and clear out all the leaves these block the inlets , then if carpet is really bad go to your local carpet shop and get underlay ,lift carpet cut out underlay and replace , also check your windscreen at both sides to see if adhesive has come away , sit in passenger seat and gently push windscreen a few times outwards along the pillar.
 

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Thanks all for the replies and suggestions.
I must admit I haven't checked for leaves, and I do park under a tree!

I guess I should still get the windscreen done, as specialist said one of the sides looks possible to be letting the water in. I'm fully comp on my insurance so it's only going to cost the excess.

Difficult to describe, but if I poke a business card (whilst sat inside the car) into the corner, down in the very thin gap between the console and the windscreen, the business card is coming back out wet. Could this also be to do with leaves or the windscreen itself??

Funny air-con was mentioned, because it reminds me of a memory when viewing this car.
When looking around car before buying, I looked underneath and saw dripping onto the road, fairly fast too. Now bear in mind this was last July when I bought my car. We had no rain for sometime I remember and was a very hot day. When I questioned the seller. He told me that is normal and because the air-con had been used and was still currently running in the car, that it drips like this. He said it is made worse because of the hot weather too. I got in the car and turn off the air-car. Took the car for a test drive, then checked underneath again, but this time the dripping had stopped, so felt the seller was telling the truth. I also don't think the carpet was wet at viewing time. Maybe worth checking out though.
The car doesn't seem to be losing water from anywhere, and haven't needed to top anything up. The amount of water in the footwell I'm sure the car would be suffering if it was coming from the reservoir, rad or coolant etc. Not sure where the air-con receives water from to check any level loss there.

Thanks for removing carpet info, I'll take another look when I get chance.

I will keep updating this thread to hopefully a solution. It may help others out if the fault is found.

Thank you all, and happy new year :)
 

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Hi.
Windscreen replaced today. Specialist said the glue down one of the sides had come unstuck, and most likely where the water was coming in. Apparently it was about 2 inches. So fingers crossed, the leak as been plug.

Pulled my carpet back today (photos below). Removed the underlay and wrung it. Tons of water was in it. Currently on my home radiator attempting to try and dry it..lol!
You'll see in photo 1 below, the foam which is about half an inch thick, seems to be holding a lot of the water. So although when trying to trace the leak, the carpet under the peddles were dry, yet deep behind the peddles in the foam it is sopping wet. I'm guessing this leads right up to the bottom of the windscreen. Going to take some time to dry. If you look at photo 2, the black thing under the accelerator peddle is stopping me from lifting the foam backing to dry it out. Can this be removed? Photo 3 just explains why the water was not coming through to the carpet under the peddles. The top as a leather type (water proof I guess) surface, yet behind and attached to this, the foam is where the water lurks.
Going to be a while before I can get this to dry. I just hope this is not all in vain and the water leak is somewhere else! Time will tell.

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The windscreen problem i have in the wifes 307 but insurance company won`t change it because windscreen not broke , go figure !!! can see a tap with a hammer coming up , as for bung i would say thats all it is ,these cars are built for left hand drive originally so god knows what it is for ,pull it out and tell us.:lol:
 

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The windscreen problem i have in the wifes 307 but insurance company won`t change it because windscreen not broke , go figure !!! can see a tap with a hammer coming up , as for bung i would say thats all it is ,these cars are built for left hand drive originally so god knows what it is for ,pull it out and tell us.:lol:
Hi, Thanks for replying.
Weird why your insurance doesn't cover leakage. I didn't really speak to the insurance company at all. I went to specialist and they said if I'm fully comp, they'll change it for the excess. The windscreen in mine looked new, not a chip or mark on it, yet I've had that changed. Sounds like you must have a clause in your windscreen cover contract perhaps. I know if you took it to the place I went to, I'm sure they would just ask to see your insurance, and as long as it don't say, replace with the cost of excess on breakage only, I'm sure they would replace it. FYI I used http://www.nationalmobilewindscreens.co.uk/ maybe there'll be one near you.

The bung went budge at all. The carpet was sat around it, going to be a nightmare seating that back in place around it. The foam though, don't look like it well be as easy to remove around it. I guess I could stretch the foam over it like the carpet, but doubt it would sit back under it again.

I'm not sure, this'll ever dry due to the thickness of the foam. God only knows how far this foam thickness continues up to the windscreen. I will let everyone know if the windscreen replacement has stopped anymore water getting in. :thumb: :thumb:
 

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Sorry to bring this back to the top of this forum again, this is the last post I need to add here.

Just wanted to update. The replace windscreen has fixed my leak :)
Can't tell you how happy I am now.
So if anyone else has this problem too, there's a chance the windscreen could be letting in water, like mine was. Wasn't easy noticeable, but what made me suspect was the water I was getting off a business card when placed between the dash and the windscreen. Funny way to check I know, but if you have this problem, it's worth checking this. The foam behind the dash is fairly thick and holds alot of the water. Another way to possibly check is, pull up the carpet and check behind the leather type insulation under the foot peddles, Mine was soaked, yet the carpet was dry.
Well I hope that's helped someone. I received alot of help with replies here, and I want to thank everyone for their time.

Thanks, and Happy New Year to you all ;)
 

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Thank you for letting us know, will do mine in warmer months need to pressure wash the carpet as its filthy as well
 

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Hi Paul

Thanks for this thread - its been very useful as I have a similar problem. I cleared out the scuttle and door seals seem fine so got a man coming around on monday to check the screen and probably replace it as I suspect the water is getting in at the screen as its damp at the back above the pedals.

One thing I wanted to ask is if it still seems ok for you? Did your scuttle panel not sit very well on the glass? As mine had a bit of a gap.

Thanks,
Stewart
 

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Did this problem happen to appear within 2 months of your air and pollen filters being replaced?

If that's the case then look at the rubber on the outside bottom of your windscreen (below the wipers). If it's not sitting directly onto the windscreen then water will find a way into your car.

When replacing the main Air filter for the engine in the 1.6 diesel the packing over the engine is removed (pull out the 6 black plastic clips) and then remove the two bolts holding the stiff plastic holder that spans the width of the engine area.

Behind that there is a plastic strip that holds the affore mentioned rubber (water guide) under the wipers in place.

If this is not correctly inplace bring the car back to the garage and get them to sort it as well as drying your car out free of charge.
 
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