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Has anyone had a similar issue to me where the timing chain has stretched? This is the second one in just over two years and is quite expensive? I wonder if there is not another root cause to this issue?
 

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You dont say what motor you have [petrol/diesel etc] but I suspect that [from your description] it is the Prince motor which are well known for timing chain and carboning up intakes among many other issues. Piece of BMW junk adapted for use in some peugeots like your model...
 

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How many miles has it done since it was last replaced and what makes you think the chain has stretched?

I have the same engine as yours ( mine is the 2008 model ), did the chain at 50k miles and she is on 108k miles now ( almost 3 years ago ) and no issues with the chain so far.

What garage are you using and what make of chain are they putting on?
 

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if stretched within that quick a time then would say 99% that it's down to incorrect installation.

Lots of parts need to be changed when chain is stretched, and suspect this hasn't been the case or it's been fitted incorrectly.

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This is a known issue with THP 155hp 1.6 prince engine. Your case : EP6CDT engine model.
You need to install the upgraded timing kit ( and revised tensioner bolt). I saw few times when an old version kit was mistakenly installed.
New chain is stronger and tensioner is longer.
 

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This is a known issue with THP 155hp 1.6 prince engine. Your case : EP6CDT engine model.
You need to install the upgraded timing kit ( and revised tensioner bolt). I saw few times when an old version kit was mistakenly installed.
New chain is stronger and tensioner is longer.
not such a known issue as such, it's the installation of the parts and poor maintenance.

Their isn't an upgraded timing kit, is no kit intact from Peugeot, it's all individual parts that are changed depending on what The diagnosis and investigation finds.

Lots of part numbers have changed yes but doesn't mean they are upgraded parts.

I have done about 23 timing jobs now on the thp so know the parts and history and how the issues come around

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The tensioner had a TSB . Now it has a small dot at its back side (so you can identify it).
The brown rails were replaced to white ones with toughest PVC and the chain is re-enforced. At least with OEM kit.
 

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The tensioner had a TSB . Now it has a small dot at its back side (so you can identify it).
The brown rails were replaced to white ones with toughest PVC and the chain is re-enforced. At least with OEM kit.
yes the tensioner has changed, doesn't mean it's updated though! in fact it's still as bad as the previous one, not strong enough, we fit the bmw mini cooper one now and it's never had a problem.

The guides are only brown cause of the oil !!

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Interesting. Never thought about the brown oil coloring. I thought the chain is same part as BMW is selling (OEM not aftermarket).
The tensioner changed structure but part number remained. Very confusing for customers.part 0829.G3.
 

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Interesting. Never thought about the brown oil coloring. I thought the chain is same part as BMW is selling (OEM not aftermarket).
The tensioner changed structure but part number remained. Very confusing for customers.part 0829.G3.
tensioner now a 10 digit code.

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Bottom line is this the parts WERE NEVER made better they are still rubbish.

BMW use SLIGHTLY better parts in some areas but most are still the same.

BMW suffer the same issues the only reason its not quite as bad with BMW is the BMW driver is less likely to skimp on servicing and it will be done when due and this is the main reason the BMW parts last longer a well serviced peugeot engine will also last fine i have 1 with 90k miles no evidence of chain change but plenty evidence of oil changes its still fine.
 

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a well serviced peugeot engine will also last fine i have 1 with 90k miles no evidence of chain change but plenty evidence of oil changes its still fine.
Which oil do you use in your Prince engine reliable406, Total Quartz Ineo First 0W/30 or similar?
 

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That's the spirit ! Oil change is overrated. Drive the car like there is no tomorrow, when the first hickup arrives : sell it to the first person you find and move on.
Same for coolant of course !
 

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Had a 2010 308CC GT with the Prince engine, I am on the third timing chain which hopefully is the modified one (done in 2016). All done under warranty, initially main and then extended warranty. Car is now second car lower use so hopefully no further issues. Currently at 98k. Very disappointing they are not covering this for you.
 
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