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Yesterday - one turn of the key the engine fires immediately into life

Today - engine reluctant to start - it will rock back and forth - until I press the accelerator and then it starts.

Once its going, it drives as normal.

It' s starts better when it is warm, but leave it an hour or so and its a barsteward to start.

Thinking dodgy glow plugs - as it runs fine when driving along.

Wadyafink fellas.

Warranty runs out this Friday - so will nip it back to garage if not easy fix.
 
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Unlikely to be glowplugs. The DW10TD is a very low compression unit for a diseasel and needs hardly any preheat assistance. As such, the glow plugs only activate when the engines ambient temperature is around 5C or low, so in mid June they won't activate at all in this country.

Sounds to me like you have a slight air leak in the fuel system, or poissibly a shitted up fuel filter.

Never touch the throttle pedal while starting one of these (or any non carburettored car). The ECU takes its base idle setting from the position of the throttle pedal on start up and you risk confusing it and forcing it into limp-home home mode if you're lucky, or running like a bag of crap until its all reset by the dealer if you're not.
 

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I must be as thick as a slice of Wharburtons extra thick toastie loaf -with a thick layer of marmalade on it - and were talking chunky marmalade here.

Anyway back to reality.

If the fuel filter is blocked/ing - wouldn't that also affect normal running - ie. not enough fuel would get through.

Same for the air leak - why does the engine run sweeeet when hot and thrashing up and down the road?

Anyway, point taken I'm going to the garage tomorrow morning.
 
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A slight air leak will allow air into the fuel system, and it'll take time for this to be purged and the fuel system to prime when you start the car in the mornings (this engine self primes). Once primed you're fine, and it'll run as normal and a slight air leak will be less than the lift pumps capacity to prime the system - it the leak we're any worse it wouldn't start at all and the diesel pissing out would be self evident. Park up and come back to it after a short while and it'll probably still be ok, but leave it overnight and enough air will get in for the process to begin again. it's not an uncommon symptom on older DWs. It's just a guess, but it bests fits the symptoms you describe.

Fuel filters can affect the running in wildly unpredictable ways. It's a cheap item so you should replace it anyway just to easily eliminate one possible, although less likely candidate.

Very unlikely to be the glow plugs. Stick a test light across them and ground it, and at this time of year it won't illuminate as it's not needed, and thus simply won't get any voltage.
 

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Booked in to the garage on Wednesday.

Now here's thing - the fuel pipe that connects to the fuel filter is clear - looking at it today there was an air bubble in the pipe. Looks like it is an air leak somewhere along the way.

I'll mention it to the mechanic when I drop it off.
 

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Mechanic reckons not an air leak - been in garage for 2 days now - good job they supply a courtesy car. Its a diesel 206 and bugger me it drifts to the left.
 

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Its been in the garage 3 weeks now - they can't sus it and im drivin around in their crap courtesy car.
 

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Maybe a bummer driving about in a 206 but they are best to sort your problems. Especially as it's not coming out of your pocket. three weeks i a garage would hurt !!!.
 

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Maybe a bummer driving about in a 206 but they are best to sort your problems. Especially as it's not coming out of your pocket. three weeks i a garage would hurt !!!.
Not necessarily - that'd only be an hour in the workshop being worked on......and 20 days and 23 hours parked in the compound collecting dust while they all take turns at a best guess what it might be ....
 

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Well, I went to the garage yesterday - and stood there, arms crossed, in the reception area.

They were full of apologies, promised me a 'better' courtesy car if it is not sussed out next week - but they said that it would be ready next week.

It's been sent to a diesel specialist - I asked him what was wrong - he mentioned something about the pressure of the diesel.

Anyway, next week it is.
 

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Turned up at the garage bout half an hour ago.

My mota was parked up outside the reception area.

Is it ready, I said. Yes it is, they said.

Wot woz it I said, something to do with the fuel pump they said,

Keys were exchanged and I went ome.

My 307 is like a limo compared to that bag o shyte 206.

Will see if it starts tomorrow.
 

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Fubared this morning - back in garage tomorrow.

I'm back in the shit 206.

I can't stand much more of this.
 

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I think that the problem is a failing high pressure fuel pump - they tweaked the pump output via the ecu - it then starts - but after a short while the pump gets weaker and the problem resurfaces.

The fuel pumps are in the £100's arena - hence they are trying to get away without replacing it.

Problem is that the car is in good condition and runs like a new car (when it actually starts that is). So I'm reluctant to let go of it, if you know what I mean.

The garage have bent over backwards to sort it out - so in recognition of this I'm holding off from giving them a load of grief.
 
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