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Hi there. I’m new here, have 2x 4007 SV top spec 2012 4007s here in Australia, great vehicles, never had any grief. One has 90,000kms the other 120,000kms. The 4007 with the fewer k’s has developed an irregular knock or dead-sounding clunk between 2nd and 3rd gear. I can go weeks without it happening, then at the end of three weeks I’ll get it three times in a day. Having it in 2wd or 4wd or 4wd constant doesn’t change it. It doesn’t happen if I have the box in “manual” mode. It took a long time before I could pick it as a box issue, thought it might have been a cv joint - still might be. These 4007s were of course result of a sleepover between Mitsubishi and Peugeot in Japan, as far as I know the engine and box are Peugeot and much of the rest is Japanese. As such I’d expect that this box must be used in other Peugeot models. Any help/advice appreciated.
 

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Personally I have a feeling it's the gearbox oil that needs changing, that clunk is possibly the gearbox changing gears but mismatching as the parameters have changed due to the fluid changes - hence manual mode not causing the clunk.

However I am sure someone with more knowledge will be along to prove me wrong and find the right solution :)

Does the clunk happen when the gearbox (gearboxes take longer than the engine to warm up) is hot or cold?
 

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Thanks for replying

Thanks for your thoughts on this. The noise occurs whether the box is hot or cold, it can happen in the first 100m of a drive or halfway through a whole day drive. Doesn’t make a lot of sense to me, hopefully somebody will have had this happen
 

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Mine does the same thing...

Have you found a cure for this problem, mine does this very intermittently, sometimes it will run for days without the issue then next time I drive it will occur several times, have you tried a fluid change?

Cheers Tony
 

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Hi there. I’m new here, have 2x 4007 SV top spec 2012 4007s here in Australia, great vehicles, never had any grief. One has 90,000kms the other 120,000kms. The 4007 with the fewer k’s has developed an irregular knock or dead-sounding clunk between 2nd and 3rd gear. I can go weeks without it happening, then at the end of three weeks I’ll get it three times in a day. Having it in 2wd or 4wd or 4wd constant doesn’t change it. It doesn’t happen if I have the box in “manual” mode. It took a long time before I could pick it as a box issue, thought it might have been a cv joint - still might be. These 4007s were of course result of a sleepover between Mitsubishi and Peugeot in Japan, as far as I know the engine and box are Peugeot and much of the rest is Japanese. As such I’d expect that this box must be used in other Peugeot models. Any help/advice appreciated.
Hi,
Did you find a cure for the gearbox thump?
I am still trying to fix the exact problem here in France

Cheers Tony
 

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My gear box has what is thought to be an input bearing going and linked to that gears 6 is wearing and vibrating against 5th when in 6th at 60mp. That doesn't answer the question i realise but i took it to gearbox specialist who said the gear box was derived from a Vauxhall 6 speed.... if that helps. mine has now done 155,000 miles and i didnt expect the gearbox to be first major problem.
 

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Aussie driver here also. I have a 2nd hand 2012 4007 that exhibits the same behaviour. Purchased privately at 50,000km 18 months ago I noticed it after a couple of weeks. Now has 80,000km and will go a few weeks then does it a couple of times a day then stops. Impossible to replicate but I notice it frequently occurs when re-accelerating after a give way sign when I slow down and the dsc appears to get confused. Can also happen from a standing start (example, say from a stop sign). I’ve had a transmission expert look at it but couldn’t replicate. At this stage I’ve just accepted it and hope it doesn’t get any worse/serious. It is quite an off putting clunk for a driver.
 

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Gearbox service - Detailed information

Gday,
Aussie here in France,

Here is a link to the service schedule for the 4007
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Vjrhat9w7wmrcreze7q7KO654SHFm0dR

You can see that it recommends changing the transmission fluid and the filter after 5 years or 100k

My local Peugeot dealer (here in France) told me there was no filter !!!! He wanted 600 euros just to change the fluid.

here is the link to the service information how to change and refill the fluid and replace the transmission fluid filter.

Peugeot will do the job but be prepared to take out a second mortgage!.
Buying the fluid from Peugeot will cost x5 the price.
Do not buy the peugeot fluid unless you are feeling very rich.

This is for the 2.2 dual clutch manual piloted 6 speed box (the one with auto box and paddle shift)

you will need 6 ltrs

The fluid must meet (PSA) 9734.S2
Castrol DCT Getrag DCS6
Totol Fluidmatic DCT
Valvoline DCT

The filter is expensive. here is a link to show the type:

https://www.piecesauto24.com/vaico/12250264

Doing it yourself will cost you about 1/10 the price the dealer will charge.....

here is a link to all the PSA svc info:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1iiYDFoZgxRlo_o0i-eV9M89OdNEJYCg4

Book times for the filter and oil replacement is only 2 hrs.

Cheers Tony
 

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Fluid and filter now changed

Hi,
I have just changed the filter and the fluid, couple of things to note the link I gave to the procedure shows three drain plugs, mine only had two. The third had a casting plug, where the removable plug should have been.
They remove easily with an 8mm allen key.
The filter is accessible and removes easily as per the manual, you will need a 32mm spanner.

To check the fluid level remove the wheel on the side of the transmission this will give easy access to the fluid level plug, also an 8mm allen, I used a stubby 8mm from my socket set and used an 8mm spanner to remove. Fiddly but not bad, just don't waste half an hour trying to remove from under the car as I did...
:confused::confused:
I used about 6 liters to refill.

Total job is probably around 3 hours most of it removing all the plastic panels.

Test drive went well, I will report later if it fixes the clunk gear change issues.

Cheers Tony
 

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Silent gear change ...

Just returned from a trip to Freiburg and Colmar (Well worth a visit)

Gear change is now silky smooth no more jumping I forgot how good the gear change used to be..

:thumb:

If you want silky smooth gear change and no clunk between the gears go for it.

If you would like any further information please contact me, cause I'm an expert having done it once

:eek:


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Glad it worked :thumb: ALL automatic gearbox oil should be changed around 70k or 5 years, regardless of what the manufacturer says.

Gearbox oil has a shelf life of 4 years when sat on a shelf, unused in a sealed bottle. In your car.... that shelf and service life will be much shorter when subjected to heat and oxidation.

Leave the oil too long and it will damage the gearbox, at which point an oil change will do nothing.
 

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508 Allure gear jolts/clunks/surges/jumps...any of these verbs will do!

Hi Tony,
Just reading your last post re the clunking gear. My 2012 508 diesel, auto is acting the same at traffic lights, from idle to 1st. Or from Neutral to Drive..some bump jump tantrum. It is not all the time, sometimes when car is cold, other times when temp. Guage is near 90, in Sydney traffic.
Apart from that, car is wonderful to drive and we service/maintain it no fail, with the good oils too.
We took it to Peugeot dealer who did diagnostic and reset gearbox with computer, or whatever it is called. That fixed the problem for 2 days!!..
we were also told that the link rod (dogbone) needed replacing as it was split, and that was puting pressuree on engine mount. And this could be the cause of gear bolting.
We bought the genuine part from Peugeot dealer, $129- as we were a bit scared to get the aftermarket from ebay at $88. My husband changed the link rod, it was an easy job, and he is good! Well the rubber in the old link rod was like swiss cheese, we were happy with decision to change it.
We also, as extra precaution asked our auto transmission mechanic to do a top up of gear oil, just in case. Our last service was 6000kms ago.. mechanic said not necessay because, knowing these cars, he always put extra oil.

Well today the car ran well in traffic, no surging/ jumping.. but on changing from N to drive the clunk is still there... intermitantly!

Oh what to do??? How is your car running now?
Hope you had a great trip in France, we are from the Bordeaux are originally.
Thanks for reply, and anyone else with above problem
 

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Gday - Bon Jour Marie Claude

Hi Marie Claude,

I think the 508 has the same gearbox as the 4007 the manual *piloted 6 speed transmission.
It's a great gearbox with a double clutch, if you look at my previous posts you will see that I had an intermittent clunk between gears, not always the same gears but you could pretty much guarantee it would happen once every day or two. The problem was hard to pin down sometimes it would feel like the gear change was simply at the wrong time. leading to the clunk, it was very noticeable to the point that passengers would say 'what was that!'

If you changed using the flappy paddles or the manual shift on the gear lever it never had an issue.

It has now been well over a month with a fair distance covered including a long trip down to Colmar and Freiburg, the problem is now gone, normal gearchange is noticeably smoother.

Even if your problem is not the transmission oil I would recommend that you change the fluid and the filter, this job is well within the abilities of home mechanics, if you can change the engine oil you can do this job.

My car is from 2011 so the fluid was 7 years old and the car had traveled 110k, the fluid looked/smelled fine when I drained it, the filter looked a little darker/blocked than the new one.

I have previously posted all the information regarding the fluid/filter parts and the PSA service information, if you need any further info please let me know especially if you need any specific info re your 508 model.

"Onya , ripper job" or should I say "Bonne Chance ..."

Cheers Tony
 

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508 thud/ bolts when putting on drive or after traffic idling

Bonjour Tony and thank you for your reply.

My husband took the car back to Peugeot dealer who assessed with computer, last week.
Service employee , front desk:"- if you dont like what the car is doing, you should change the gearbox"- 😡
Husband asked to have workshop supervisor to come for a drive.
That will happen next monday.. i am not Expecting much from this.
The computer check had read nothing wrong with gearbox!
We did the paddles/manual drive.. but to do that, we have first to put the car in drive initially, to put the manual on. And that is when the car kicks big time.
It is that and also when stopped at lights or queuing in traffic, to catch the 1st gear the car gives us the thump, the other day it even went backwards in a small slope.!
I was reading something similar from a member called Darren, you exchanged views with him, but i lost the thread,,,
I am spending hours looking for solution, before having big dramatic repairs done maybe unecessarly...
Ths for reply, au revoir, Marie-Claude
 

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Sorry to hear your woes..

Marie Claude,

Have you already changed the transmission fluid and transmission filter?

If not, this would be my first thing to try, sounds like the torque converter is locking up at low engine revs, I am assuming your idle speed is around 800 rpm a high idle speed could also give similar symptoms.

Replacement of the gearbox is a massive expense I strongly suggest you find a local mechanic who will try a simple service on the transmission.
Peugeot dealers may in this case not be the best place to go, especially with the negative attitude they seem to be giving. It's encouraging you have no transmission codes.

I have mentioned before the outrageous quote I was given by Peugeot factory parts store here in Vesoul France for just 6 ltrs of transmission fluid (300 euros or 479 AUD) I didn't even ask the price of the filter or their labour rates.
I serviced the whole thing for about 200 AUD. (160 euros)

So if you can find someone to do this simple service for just a few hundred dollars at least you then know if you have to consider if a replacement transmission is even economical. I know that in Australia there are automatic transmission specialists, there must be plenty in Sydney perhaps getting advice from one of these might also be an option.

Book time on removal/replacement of the transmission is very high with a new gearbox you would be into many thousands of dollars.

If there is anyone from NSW in this forum maybe they could give some pointers to decent mechanics in the area?


Please let us know how you go.

kind regards
Tony
 

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Mine does the same thing...

Have you found a cure for this problem, mine does this very intermittently, sometimes it will run for days without the issue then next time I drive it will occur several times, have you tried a fluid change?

Cheers Tony
 

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Sorry to hear your woes..

Marie Claude,

Have you already changed the transmission fluid and transmission filter?

If not, this would be my first thing to try, sounds like the torque converter is locking up at low engine revs, I am assuming your idle speed is around 800 rpm a high idle speed could also give similar symptoms.

Replacement of the gearbox is a massive expense I strongly suggest you find a local mechanic who will try a simple service on the transmission.
Peugeot dealers may in this case not be the best place to go, especially with the negative attitude they seem to be giving. It's encouraging you have no transmission codes.

I have mentioned before the outrageous quote I was given by Peugeot factory parts store here in Vesoul France for just 6 ltrs of transmission fluid (300 euros or 479 AUD) I didn't even ask the price of the filter or their labour rates.
I serviced the whole thing for about 200 AUD. (160 euros)

So if you can find someone to do this simple service for just a few hundred dollars at least you then know if you have to consider if a replacement transmission is even economical. I know that in Australia there are automatic transmission specialists, there must be plenty in Sydney perhaps getting advice from one of these might also be an option.

Book time on removal/replacement of the transmission is very high with a new gearbox you would be into many thousands of dollars.

If there is anyone from NSW in this forum maybe they could give some pointers to decent mechanics in the area?


Please let us know how you go.

kind regards
Tony
Away.
The pressure solenoid is giving out. And solenoid 3rd is also on it way out. Mine. Did the same thing
 

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Mine does the same thing...

Have you found a cure for this problem, mine does this very intermittently, sometimes it will run for days without the issue then next time I drive it will occur several times, have you tried a fluid change?

Cheers Tony
 

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I have a 4007 and it does exactly the same as the original poster has written. Clunk 2nd to 3rd, extremely intermittent. Have driven 25 thou ks since purchase a couple of years ago and has got no worse or better. Sitting on 115 K at the moment. Took to a transmission specialist on the gold coast and couldn't get it to fault. It's kinda frustrating.
 

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I have a 4007 and it does exactly the same as the original poster has written. Clunk 2nd to 3rd, extremely intermittent. Have driven 25 thou ks since purchase a couple of years ago and has got no worse or better. Sitting on 115 K at the moment. Took to a transmission specialist on the gold coast and couldn't get it to fault. It's kinda frustrating.
Gday,
Strongly suggest a fluid and filter change, cheap easy to do yourself, see my previous posts, if you still have the issue maybe it's your solenoid, that's probably expensive though.
If you need any help with the fluid filter change let me know.
cheers Tony
 
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