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Hi all,

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Just bought a 56 plate 407sw with 150 on the clock. Been and pump etc been done at 131k. Last service was done same time so 20k ago. Want to service it. Is it easy enough to do myself, I've done my T4 myself in the past. Also what would you recommend to change at this mileage?

Thanks in advance

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Yea there pretty straightforward to service, obviously all the usual filters etc,not forgetting the cabin/pollen filter

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Yea there pretty straightforward to service, obviously all the usual filters etc,not forgetting the cabin/pollen filter

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Great stuff. And it does have air con doesn't it? So I can get my mate to regas it? Se model

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Great stuff. And it does have air con doesn't it? So I can get my mate to regas it? Se model

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Yea has dual climate control.post last 8 digits of vin and I'll get info for you

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Yea has dual climate control.post last 8 digits of vin and I'll get info for you

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Where will I find that? Sorry for being a noob! Haha

Also which is the correct oil to put in? Sticking my reg in various sites and coming up with 0w 5w and 10w stuff so can't be any of the three surely?

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Vehicle characteristics

407 5 DOOR ESTATE 2.0 HDi 138 particle emission filter Manual gearbox 6
Vehicle family 407

AS/RP N° 10810 CJ 2 0613
Warranty Start Date 27/09/2006
BER e2*2001/116*0297*06

General information

PRODUCT TYPE CAR
COMMERCIAL MARQUE/COMPONENT TYPE PEUGEOT
VEHICLE FAMILY 407
SILHOUETTE 5 DOOR ESTATE
TRIM LEVEL AA
ENGINE DIESEL TURBO DW10BTED4 FAP
TRANSMISSION BVM6
PAINT TYPE METALLIC PAINTWORK
BODY COLOUR EZR - PAINT ALUMINIUM GREY
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE TRESSE ANDORRE + CLOTH SOFIS "RR"
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR "FT"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) BVM ML6 CL
ENGINE (TYPE) EW/DW

Vehicle characteristics
TRIM LEVEL AA
PAINT TYPE METALLIC PAINTWORK
BODY COLOUR EZR - PAINT ALUMINIUM GREY
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE TRESSE ANDORRE + CLOTH SOFIS "RR"
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR "FT"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) BVM ML6 CL
STEERING UNVARIABLE POWER STEERING

Fuel supply-Engine
ENGINE DIESEL TURBO DW10BTED4 FAP
DIESEL FILTER WATER DETECTOR WITHOUT DIESEL FILTER WATER DETECTOR
FUEL DIESEL FUEL
EMISSIONS STANDARD (ENGINE) ANTI DEPOLLUTION L5 (ENGINE)
ENGINE (TYPE) EW/DW
OIL COOLER MNTG WATER/OIL EXCHANGER ON ENGINE
CRANKCASE GAS CIRCUIT HEATING W/O HEATER CASING GAS CIRCUIT
POWER VARIATION (ENGINE) STANDARD POWER
EOBD SELF-DIAGNOSIS SYSTEM "EOBD" SELF-DIAGNOSIS
DEVICE (ANTIPOLLUTION) "EGR" EXHAUST GAS RECYCLING
VEHICLE TECHNICAL DEPOLLUTION L5 VEHICLE TECHNICAL DEPOLLUTION
PARTICLE FILTER PARTICLE FILTER
FAN 1 ELECTRONIC FAN INTEGRAL CTRL 150W
INJECTION ASSOCIATED VARIANT SIEMENS ASSEMBLY
TANK FILTER CITHOUT RESERVOIR FILTER
THROTTLE HOUSING (ENGINE INLET AIR CIRCUIT) MOTORISED THROTTLE BODY (ENG AIR INTAKE)

Gearbox Transmission
TRANSMISSION BVM6
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) BVM ML6 CL
FINAL DRIVE RATIO REAR AXLE HYPOID GEARSET 17 X 71
WHEEL STYLE WHEEL COSMOS 17 POUCES
CLUTCH HYDRAULIC CLUTCH
DIFFERENTIAL (GEARBOX) DIFFERENTIAL 86
RIM/TYRE SIZE 17 INCH TYRE FITMENT
TYRE (SIZE, TYPE) 215/55 R17 94W NON REINFORCED TYRE
WHEEL (TYPE) ALLOY WHEEL ASSEMBLY 3
INFLATION PRESSURE LOSS INDICATOR TYRE DEFLECTION INDICATOR
GEARBOX TYPE ML6C

Suspension-Steering-Brakes
STEERING COLUMN MANUALLY ADJUSTED STEERING COLUMN
STEERING UNVARIABLE POWER STEERING
FRONT ANTI-ROLL BAR FRONT ANTI ROLL BAR DIAM 24,5
STEERING TRAVEL TRAVEL MECHANISM STEERING 174
SUSPENSION NORMAL SUSPENSION
ACTIVE SUSPENSION WITHOUT VARIABLE SUSPENSION
DYNAMIC STABILITY CONTROL SYSTEM ELECTRONIC STABILITY PROGRAM
BRAKE ASSOCIATED VARIANT ESP BOSCH 8 0
STEERING (OPERATION) ASSISTED ELECTROHYDRAULIC STEERING

Body fittings
TOWBAR WITHOUT TOWBAR
SIDE MOULDINGS (TYPE) SIDE TRIM BODY COLOURED + CHROME
SIDE MOULDINGS (DIMENSION) LATERAL PROTECTORS + SIDE SILL
WHEEL EMBELLISHER (STYLE) WITHOUT WHEEL CAP
SILL ILLUMINATION LAMP SILL ILLUMINATION
ADDITIONAL SHIELD (UNDER ENGINE) W/O ENGINE UNDERSHELDING
EXT. REARVIEW MIRROR COMP. FUNCTION ELECTRIC FOLDING EXT REAR VIEW MIRROR NO MEMORY
WINDSCREEN WIPER FRONT WIPER BLADE WITH RAIN SENSOR
REAR SCREEN WIPER REAR SCREEN WIPER
HEADLAMP WIPER W/O HEADLAMP WIPER
FRONT PANEL BLANK WITHOUT FRONT BUMPER PLUG
ROOF GLASS WITH ROOF WINDOW
SPARE WHEEL STEEL WHEEL + STANDARD TYRE
EXTERIOR ACCESSORIES BODY COLOURED EXT HANDLES + EXT MIRROR
SUN ROOF FIXED ROOF
BUMPER TRIM MATT COLOUR BUMPER STRIP + STAINLESS STEEL TRIM
GLASS (APPEARANCE) TINTED + MOULDED WINDOW GLASS
WINDOW (TYPE) LAM W/SCREEN + SIDE + RR TOUGHENED
HANDS FREE ACCESS AND STARTING NO ACCES AND HANDSFREE STARTING

Interior fittings
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE TRESSE ANDORRE + CLOTH SOFIS "RR"
ANTI-THEFT ALARM ALARM ULTRASONIC+PERIMETER STD
REAR SEAT ARMREST WITH REAR ARMREST
REAR SEATBELT REAR 3-POINT 3 INERTIA REEL SEAT BELT
CLIMATE (AMBIENT TEMP) TEMPERATE COUNTRIES
CHILD LOCK ELECTRIC REAR CHILD LOCK
SPEED GRADUATIONS GRADUATION MPH
DRIVING POSITION RIGHT HAND DRIVE
ADDITIONAL HEATING WITHOUT ADDITIONNAL HEATING
DASHBOARD EQUIPMENT GEOMETRIC DECOR
INSTRUMENT PANEL (CHARACTERISTICS) GRADUATION 260 KM/H OR 160 M/H LIGHT BACKGROUND
DOOR TRIM GEOMETRIC DECOR
LOUDSPEAKER 4 FR SPEAKERS (2 TW + 2 FR) + 2 RR SPEAKERS
RADIO CONTROLS REMOTE RADIO CONTROL
SCREENING (BLIND, SIDE SUNBLIND, SUNROOF) WITHOUT REAR BLIND
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT HEIGHT CONTROL FRONT ADJUSTMENT PASSENGER SPACER
DRIVER SEAT CONTROL DRIVERS FRT SEAT MANUAL CNTROL
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT CONTROL PASSENGER FRT SEAT MANUAL CNTR
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT ADJUSTMENT MODULAR PASSENGER’S FRONT SEAT CUSHION ADJUSTMENT
COMPACT DISC WITHOUT COMPACT DISC
SATELLITE NAVIGATION SYSTEM WITHOUT NAVIGATION SYSTEM
HEADLAMP BULBS HALOGEN BULB
REAR WINDOW LIFT SEQUENTIAL ELECTRIC REAR WINDOW + LOCKING
DISPLAY DISPLAY (RADIO+CLOCK AND OR TEMP, CD)
COURTESY MIRROR DRIVER’S + PASSENGER’S CONCEALABLE WITH LIGHT
OIL GAUGE TWO-FUNCTIONS INDICATOR OIL LEVEL+TEMPERATURE
HEATING ELEMENT NON HEATED SEAT
FRONT LATERAL AIRBAG THORAX SIDE + CURTAIN AIRBAG
FOOTWELL LIGHTING WITHOUT DOOR SILL LIGHTING
AIRBAG DEACTIVATION MANUAL AIRBAG DEACTIVATION
HEADLAMP HEIGHT ADJUSTER REMOTE MANUAL HEADLAMP ADJUSTMENT
DIRECTIONAL HEADLAMP WITHOUT DIRECTIONAL LIGHTS
RADIO RECEIVER "RD4/MP3" RDS COMPACT DISC AUDIO SYSTEM
REFRIGERATION AUTOMATIC AIR CONDITIONING
CRUISE CONTROL REGULATOR AND SPEED LIMIT
DRIVER’S SEAT HEIGHT CONTROL DRIVER’S SEAT HEIGHT MANUAL ADJ
INTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR ELECTROCHROMATIC DAY-NIGHT INTERIOR MIRROR
AIR CON./TEMPERATURE REGULATION AUTOMATIC AIR CONDITIONNED BI-ZONE
TUNER RADIO DUAL RADIO TUNER
INTERIOR PROTECTION WITHOUT INNER PROTECTION
OBSTACLE DETECTION SYSTEM WITHOUT OBSTACLE DETECTOR
LATERAL BLINDS WITHOUT SIDE BLINDS
INFLATION PRESSURE LOSS INDICATOR TYRE DEFLECTION INDICATOR
TRIM ADAPTATION LEATHER GEAR LEVER KNOB
EQUALISER AMPLIFIER WITHOUT EQUALISER AMPLIFIER
RADIO FREQUENCY WESTERN EUROPE RADIO FREQUENCY
LOCKING CONTROL CENTRAL DEAD LOCKING
WINDOW (TYPE) LAM W/SCREEN + SIDE + RR TOUGHENED
STEERING WHEEL LEATHER STEERING WHEEL 3 BRANCHES
FAN 1 ELECTRONIC FAN INTEGRAL CTRL 150W
DRIVER’S KNEE AIRBAG DRIVER’S KNEE AIRBAG

Electrical
ALTERNATOR ALTERNATOR CLASS 18 180 AMP
BATTERY BATTERY L3 450
STARTER MOTOR STARTER MOTOR CLASS 6+
SPECIAL LIGHTING AUTOMATIC HEADLAMP ILLUMINATION
SILL ILLUMINATION LAMP SILL ILLUMINATION
EXT. REARVIEW MIRROR COMP. FUNCTION ELECTRIC FOLDING EXT REAR VIEW MIRROR NO MEMORY
HEADLAMP BULBS HALOGEN BULB
FOOTWELL LIGHTING WITHOUT DOOR SILL LIGHTING
HEADLAMP HEIGHT ADJUSTER REMOTE MANUAL HEADLAMP ADJUSTMENT
DIRECTIONAL HEADLAMP WITHOUT DIRECTIONAL LIGHTS

Component manufacturers
BRAKE ASSOCIATED VARIANT ESP BOSCH 8 0
INJECTION ASSOCIATED VARIANT SIEMENS ASSEMBLY

Miscellaneous
SPECIAL SPECIFICATION STANDARD
ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS NORMAL ATMOSPHERE
DRIVING POSITION RIGHT HAND DRIVE
SURFACE CONDITIONS GOOD TERRAIN
EXTERIOR ACCESSORIES BODY COLOURED EXT HANDLES + EXT MIRROR
SLAVE CONTROL UNIT BSI COMM 2003
 

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as for oil,this is what i use from eurocarparts, remember your car has a DPF
 

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Wow! That's a lot of information! And I may require a bit more of it as it wouldn't start just now. Been sat over night. Battery seems to have drained or maybe starter motor... It's not good so far

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TOTAL Ineo ECS 5W-30 - Why use anything other than what the manufacturer recommends especially when it isn't that expensive and it confirms to all the manufacturer specs?
 

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Vehicle characteristics

407 5 DOOR ESTATE 2.0 HDi 138 particle emission filter Manual gearbox 6
Vehicle family407

AS/RP N°10810 CJ 2 0613
Warranty Start Date27/09/2006
BERe2*2001/116*0297*06

General information

PRODUCT TYPECAR
COMMERCIAL MARQUE/COMPONENT TYPEPEUGEOT
VEHICLE FAMILY407
SILHOUETTE5 DOOR ESTATE
TRIM LEVELAA
ENGINEDIESEL TURBO DW10BTED4 FAP
TRANSMISSIONBVM6
PAINT TYPEMETALLIC PAINTWORK
BODY COLOUREZR - PAINT ALUMINIUM GREY
INTERIOR TRIM TYPETRESSE ANDORRE + CLOTH SOFIS "RR"
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR"FT"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS)BVM ML6 CL
ENGINE (TYPE)EW/DW

Vehicle characteristics
TRIM LEVELAA
PAINT TYPEMETALLIC PAINTWORK
BODY COLOUREZR - PAINT ALUMINIUM GREY
INTERIOR TRIM TYPETRESSE ANDORRE + CLOTH SOFIS "RR"
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR"FT"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS)BVM ML6 CL
STEERINGUNVARIABLE POWER STEERING

Fuel supply-Engine
ENGINEDIESEL TURBO DW10BTED4 FAP
DIESEL FILTER WATER DETECTORWITHOUT DIESEL FILTER WATER DETECTOR
FUELDIESEL FUEL
EMISSIONS STANDARD (ENGINE)ANTI DEPOLLUTION L5 (ENGINE)
ENGINE (TYPE)EW/DW
OIL COOLERMNTG WATER/OIL EXCHANGER ON ENGINE
CRANKCASE GAS CIRCUIT HEATINGW/O HEATER CASING GAS CIRCUIT
POWER VARIATION (ENGINE)STANDARD POWER
EOBD SELF-DIAGNOSIS SYSTEM"EOBD" SELF-DIAGNOSIS
DEVICE (ANTIPOLLUTION)"EGR" EXHAUST GAS RECYCLING
VEHICLE TECHNICAL DEPOLLUTIONL5 VEHICLE TECHNICAL DEPOLLUTION
PARTICLE FILTERPARTICLE FILTER
FAN1 ELECTRONIC FAN INTEGRAL CTRL 150W
INJECTION ASSOCIATED VARIANTSIEMENS ASSEMBLY
TANK FILTERCITHOUT RESERVOIR FILTER
THROTTLE HOUSING (ENGINE INLET AIR CIRCUIT)MOTORISED THROTTLE BODY (ENG AIR INTAKE)

Gearbox Transmission
TRANSMISSIONBVM6
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS)BVM ML6 CL
FINAL DRIVE RATIOREAR AXLE HYPOID GEARSET 17 X 71
WHEEL STYLEWHEEL COSMOS 17 POUCES
CLUTCHHYDRAULIC CLUTCH
DIFFERENTIAL (GEARBOX)DIFFERENTIAL 86
RIM/TYRE SIZE17 INCH TYRE FITMENT
TYRE (SIZE, TYPE)215/55 R17 94W NON REINFORCED TYRE
WHEEL (TYPE)ALLOY WHEEL ASSEMBLY 3
INFLATION PRESSURE LOSS INDICATORTYRE DEFLECTION INDICATOR
GEARBOX TYPEML6C

Suspension-Steering-Brakes
STEERING COLUMNMANUALLY ADJUSTED STEERING COLUMN
STEERINGUNVARIABLE POWER STEERING
FRONT ANTI-ROLL BARFRONT ANTI ROLL BAR DIAM 24,5
STEERING TRAVELTRAVEL MECHANISM STEERING 174
SUSPENSIONNORMAL SUSPENSION
ACTIVE SUSPENSIONWITHOUT VARIABLE SUSPENSION
DYNAMIC STABILITY CONTROL SYSTEMELECTRONIC STABILITY PROGRAM
BRAKE ASSOCIATED VARIANTESP BOSCH 8 0
STEERING (OPERATION)ASSISTED ELECTROHYDRAULIC STEERING

Body fittings
TOWBARWITHOUT TOWBAR
SIDE MOULDINGS (TYPE)SIDE TRIM BODY COLOURED + CHROME
SIDE MOULDINGS (DIMENSION)LATERAL PROTECTORS + SIDE SILL
WHEEL EMBELLISHER (STYLE)WITHOUT WHEEL CAP
SILL ILLUMINATION LAMPSILL ILLUMINATION
ADDITIONAL SHIELD (UNDER ENGINE)W/O ENGINE UNDERSHELDING
EXT. REARVIEW MIRROR COMP. FUNCTIONELECTRIC FOLDING EXT REAR VIEW MIRROR NO MEMORY
WINDSCREEN WIPERFRONT WIPER BLADE WITH RAIN SENSOR
REAR SCREEN WIPERREAR SCREEN WIPER
HEADLAMP WIPERW/O HEADLAMP WIPER
FRONT PANEL BLANKWITHOUT FRONT BUMPER PLUG
ROOF GLASSWITH ROOF WINDOW
SPARE WHEELSTEEL WHEEL + STANDARD TYRE
EXTERIOR ACCESSORIESBODY COLOURED EXT HANDLES + EXT MIRROR
SUN ROOFFIXED ROOF
BUMPER TRIMMATT COLOUR BUMPER STRIP + STAINLESS STEEL TRIM
GLASS (APPEARANCE)TINTED + MOULDED WINDOW GLASS
WINDOW (TYPE)LAM W/SCREEN + SIDE + RR TOUGHENED
HANDS FREE ACCESS AND STARTINGNO ACCES AND HANDSFREE STARTING

Interior fittings
INTERIOR TRIM TYPETRESSE ANDORRE + CLOTH SOFIS "RR"
ANTI-THEFT ALARMALARM ULTRASONIC+PERIMETER STD
REAR SEAT ARMRESTWITH REAR ARMREST
REAR SEATBELTREAR 3-POINT 3 INERTIA REEL SEAT BELT
CLIMATE (AMBIENT TEMP)TEMPERATE COUNTRIES
CHILD LOCKELECTRIC REAR CHILD LOCK
SPEED GRADUATIONSGRADUATION MPH
DRIVING POSITIONRIGHT HAND DRIVE
ADDITIONAL HEATINGWITHOUT ADDITIONNAL HEATING
DASHBOARD EQUIPMENTGEOMETRIC DECOR
INSTRUMENT PANEL (CHARACTERISTICS)GRADUATION 260 KM/H OR 160 M/H LIGHT BACKGROUND
DOOR TRIMGEOMETRIC DECOR
LOUDSPEAKER4 FR SPEAKERS (2 TW + 2 FR) + 2 RR SPEAKERS
RADIO CONTROLSREMOTE RADIO CONTROL
SCREENING (BLIND, SIDE SUNBLIND, SUNROOF)WITHOUT REAR BLIND
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT HEIGHT CONTROLFRONT ADJUSTMENT PASSENGER SPACER
DRIVER SEAT CONTROLDRIVERS FRT SEAT MANUAL CNTROL
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT CONTROLPASSENGER FRT SEAT MANUAL CNTR
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT ADJUSTMENTMODULAR PASSENGER’S FRONT SEAT CUSHION ADJUSTMENT
COMPACT DISCWITHOUT COMPACT DISC
SATELLITE NAVIGATION SYSTEMWITHOUT NAVIGATION SYSTEM
HEADLAMP BULBSHALOGEN BULB
REAR WINDOW LIFTSEQUENTIAL ELECTRIC REAR WINDOW + LOCKING
DISPLAYDISPLAY (RADIO+CLOCK AND OR TEMP, CD)
COURTESY MIRRORDRIVER’S + PASSENGER’S CONCEALABLE WITH LIGHT
OIL GAUGETWO-FUNCTIONS INDICATOR OIL LEVEL+TEMPERATURE
HEATING ELEMENTNON HEATED SEAT
FRONT LATERAL AIRBAGTHORAX SIDE + CURTAIN AIRBAG
FOOTWELL LIGHTINGWITHOUT DOOR SILL LIGHTING
AIRBAG DEACTIVATIONMANUAL AIRBAG DEACTIVATION
HEADLAMP HEIGHT ADJUSTERREMOTE MANUAL HEADLAMP ADJUSTMENT
DIRECTIONAL HEADLAMPWITHOUT DIRECTIONAL LIGHTS
RADIO RECEIVER"RD4/MP3" RDS COMPACT DISC AUDIO SYSTEM
REFRIGERATIONAUTOMATIC AIR CONDITIONING
CRUISE CONTROLREGULATOR AND SPEED LIMIT
DRIVER’S SEAT HEIGHT CONTROLDRIVER’S SEAT HEIGHT MANUAL ADJ
INTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRRORELECTROCHROMATIC DAY-NIGHT INTERIOR MIRROR
AIR CON./TEMPERATURE REGULATIONAUTOMATIC AIR CONDITIONNED BI-ZONE
TUNER RADIODUAL RADIO TUNER
INTERIOR PROTECTIONWITHOUT INNER PROTECTION
OBSTACLE DETECTION SYSTEMWITHOUT OBSTACLE DETECTOR
LATERAL BLINDSWITHOUT SIDE BLINDS
INFLATION PRESSURE LOSS INDICATORTYRE DEFLECTION INDICATOR
TRIM ADAPTATIONLEATHER GEAR LEVER KNOB
EQUALISER AMPLIFIERWITHOUT EQUALISER AMPLIFIER
RADIO FREQUENCYWESTERN EUROPE RADIO FREQUENCY
LOCKING CONTROLCENTRAL DEAD LOCKING
WINDOW (TYPE)LAM W/SCREEN + SIDE + RR TOUGHENED
STEERING WHEELLEATHER STEERING WHEEL 3 BRANCHES
FAN1 ELECTRONIC FAN INTEGRAL CTRL 150W
DRIVER’S KNEE AIRBAGDRIVER’S KNEE AIRBAG

Electrical
ALTERNATORALTERNATOR CLASS 18 180 AMP
BATTERYBATTERY L3 450
STARTER MOTORSTARTER MOTOR CLASS 6+
SPECIAL LIGHTINGAUTOMATIC HEADLAMP ILLUMINATION
SILL ILLUMINATION LAMPSILL ILLUMINATION
EXT. REARVIEW MIRROR COMP. FUNCTIONELECTRIC FOLDING EXT REAR VIEW MIRROR NO MEMORY
HEADLAMP BULBSHALOGEN BULB
FOOTWELL LIGHTINGWITHOUT DOOR SILL LIGHTING
HEADLAMP HEIGHT ADJUSTERREMOTE MANUAL HEADLAMP ADJUSTMENT
DIRECTIONAL HEADLAMPWITHOUT DIRECTIONAL LIGHTS

Component manufacturers
BRAKE ASSOCIATED VARIANTESP BOSCH 8 0
INJECTION ASSOCIATED VARIANTSIEMENS ASSEMBLY

Miscellaneous
SPECIAL SPECIFICATIONSTANDARD
ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONSNORMAL ATMOSPHERE
DRIVING POSITIONRIGHT HAND DRIVE
SURFACE CONDITIONSGOOD TERRAIN
EXTERIOR ACCESSORIESBODY COLOURED EXT HANDLES + EXT MIRROR
SLAVE CONTROL UNITBSI COMM 2003
How do I use this to find which starter motor I need? There is no parts number?

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nope,no parts numbers on this,this is in effect the build sheet of how your car left the factory, if you want oe part numbers either join servicebox or ask on the fb page, peter is a whizz with part numbers
 
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