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Hi guys not been on here in a long while but as expected my cars shagged again lol.
After some advice first off, my dmf went last year so i fitted the valeo solid flywheel kit.
While dismanteling the thing, i noticed quite alot of oil all over drivers side of engine around bottom of timing belt case and all over side of oil sump ect.
After putting it all back together and enjoying the new flywheel so much after a year of listening to my failing dmf lol. i managed to forget about this oil leak, until it went for an mot the other day and although somehow by a miracle it still passed.
Ive got a list of problems on advisories as follows.
n/s ball joint needs changing
Oil leak
Brake discs warped
Front Brake pads low
n/s Front tyre tread low
On top of all that car constantly says depollution system faulty and occasionally goes into limp mode.
For the last year ive been clearing codes and turning eml off and it would last a week or two before coming back on.
But now although clearing codes takes it out of limp mode the eml refuses to go off even when showing no fault codes.
So im going to fit new discs and pads all round, fit new ball joint and tyres and fit new timing belt and water pump which i already have.
My concern is the oil leak the way its over the hole side and everythings so cramped under there its impossible to tell where its coming from.
As its on bottom of timing cover i was thinking its the seals behind timing belt is this common or do they leak somewhere else ( 136 model ) im hoping its those seals as i can change them whilst doing belt and pump.
Any advice or tips to ease my frustration lol
And dont say scrap the thing like my missis did lol.
Many thx mark
 

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You need to FIX THE FAULT clearing codes is not fixing the problem !!
Hi thx for the reply i know i hold my hands up im guilty ive been ignoring it. when i got the car 2 years ago it had same problem and garage i bought it from under warranty sent it to a peugeot specialist who said dpf was to badly blocked and it caused turbo to fail.
So they fitted new dpf and reconditioned turbo but then just after warranty ran out ot started saying depollution system faulty again however turbo still works when i remove limp mode.
I was thinking about removing dpf drilling the centre through and refitting with a ecu remap to delete dpf files however im not sure as i heard it cant be done on 136 model
 

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Antipollution fault does NOT Mean DPF faulty !!

Antipollution fault comes on for ANYTHING that is or potentially could cause pollution

Bad airflow meter
fuel cap sensor
DPF fluid empty
various sensors relating to DPF
low boost
high boost !
low fuel pressure

etc etc etc

ANY or a combination of the above can throw antipollution faults and drilling the DPF would not help if its not the DPF at fault!

We used to get antipollution faults on the taxis with your engine THEY DONT HAVE A DPF !!

They still throw up the fault if something is faulty its not a DPF fault its a something fault it could be as simple as a bad connection.
 

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Antipollution fault does NOT Mean DPF faulty !!

Antipollution fault comes on for ANYTHING that is or potentially could cause pollution

Bad airflow meter
fuel cap sensor
DPF fluid empty
various sensors relating to DPF
low boost
high boost !
low fuel pressure

etc etc etc

ANY or a combination of the above can throw antipollution faults and drilling the DPF would not help if its not the DPF at fault!

We used to get antipollution faults on the taxis with your engine THEY DONT HAVE A DPF !!

They still throw up the fault if something is faulty its not a DPF fault its a something fault it could be as simple as a bad connection.
Hi thanks for the reply this is not the antipollution fault message its depollution system faulty, ive seen the anti pollution on my old 1.6hdi model its different.
And my car definately does have a dpf filter its the 2.0 16v dohc rhr engine ive seen the filter when i changed flywheel also the filter was replaced when i bought car as it was completely blocked and caused huge back pressure which destroyed the turbo
 

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Its the same fault !!

They have changed the words but it means the same thing :)

bit like when we vote in a new set of morrons they change the face but the puppets all do the same thing NOTHING :)

I never said you did not have a DPF I said you cannot assume the DPF is the reason for the fault.

The TAXIS did not have a DPF that's what I said yet they still threw the fault.
 

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Its the same fault !!

They have changed the words but it means the same thing


bit like when we vote in a new set of morrons they change the face but the puppets all do the same thing NOTHING


I never said you did not have a DPF I said you cannot assume the DPF is the reason for the fault.
Oh right ok, i was referring to the following comment you made, you stated my engine dosnt have a dpf.
Unless you meant the taxis didnt have them.
In which case i got mixed up and i apologise lol.
( We used to get antipollution faults on the taxis with your engine THEY DONT HAVE A DPF !! )
Anyway so i see it comes up depollution now instead of anti pollution thats useful to know wish id known a year back lol.
So if i get it on planet and the last regen was quite recent then i know thats all working and dpf is not blocked.
Does it still tell you when eloys needs topping up or does it give same message for that too ?
Cheers mark
 

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yes I meant the taxis had the same engine but did not have DPFs

A session with planet will be your best bet as it could be anything that is the root of your issue the system works the same as the 1.6 and it can throw a strop for anything :)
 

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yes I meant the taxis had the same engine but did not have DPFs

A session with planet will be your best bet as it could be anything that is the root of your issue the system works the same as the 1.6 and it can throw a strop for anything
Ok thanks for your help i noticed theres a guy on here called monty he lives round corner from me and he has planet i inboxed him to see if he could maybe help me out for a drink.
I was going to buy planet before but the guy who used to run this site 2 years back who used to sell them told me the chinese copy version would not work with my car or something around those lines.
Do you know if its possible to get planet on my car and what i should be looking to buy and if it would work on a laptop with the newest windows operating software.
Much apreciated mark
 

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The first thing I'd check is the sump bolts, mine was leaking oil and after a quick tighten it's stopped the leak. Just give them a quick Nick, don't over tighten.

I too am also interested in buying Peugeot Planet but am bamboozled with what equipment I need.
 

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The first thing I'd check is the sump bolts, mine was leaking oil and after a quick tighten it's stopped the leak. Just give them a quick Nick, don't over tighten.

I too am also interested in buying Peugeot Planet but am bamboozled with what equipment I need.
Thx for the info ill give em ago however the main load of oil is all sitting above and around where the drive shaft passes through the little securing arm and all over the bottom of belt casing.
I dont think it would get up there from the sump but ill keep it in mind, im just worried incase its the head gasket, dont think it is though.
And me to about planet sounds alkward to install ect..
 

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Well monty off here kindly check the car on diagbox for me and it came up with these below


It was also saying the additive pump is abscent or something similar.
Would my best bet be going down the route of removing the dpf and would a remap remove additive system ect..?
Many thx mark
 

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Why simply remove the system people can end up with even bigger issues after bad removals !!

Those codes don't help much you need live data info to see WHY things are not working

glowplug fault code may or may not be an issue they all have that !

differential sensor fault could be a bad sensor or wiring or the fact the additive ecu is asleep !

Additive ecu fault and the BSI additive ecu fault are probably the same thing it sometimes goes to sleep and needs reconnected to wake it up

Additive ecu controls additive pump so it will not see it till ecu wakes up

It needs someone who understands the system NOT PEUGEOT DEALER :) but its probably going to cost less to fix it than it will to remove it :)
 

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Why simply remove the system people can end up with even bigger issues after bad removals !!

Those codes don't help much you need live data info to see WHY things are not working

glowplug fault code may or may not be an issue they all have that !

differential sensor fault could be a bad sensor or wiring or the fact the additive ecu is asleep !

Additive ecu fault and the BSI additive ecu fault are probably the same thing it sometimes goes to sleep and needs reconnected to wake it up

Additive ecu controls additive pump so it will not see it till ecu wakes up

It needs someone who understands the system NOT PEUGEOT DEALER
but its probably going to cost less to fix it than it will to remove it
Ok i will have to look into it i just paid monty to take a look he didnt look at any live data ect just gave me those codes and said he didnt understand why its saying additive pump absent or something similar.
I can get remap for around 160 and drill dpf myself where as my local peugeot specialist ( not dealer ) will charge me about 50 quid just to look at it on planet and then give a quote to fix it.
Only problem like you say if the remove goes bad on ecu.
Also monty said after its been remapped it wud need to go back on planet to turn things off or something so thats another 15 quid to him
 

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This is the problem it looks to me like a reasonably simple fix as most of it seems like the additive ecu not communicating it MIGHT Need glowplugs or a relay or both I had an 807 recently same sort of issues it turned out to be the cap sensor not working and the previous owner had refilled additive but had not reset things so ecu still seen empty additive tank this blocked up the DPF as system could not regen.

I fixed the cap sensor reset the counters drove it 100 miles and its fine now.

Told them to drive it on motorway once a week to help it regen as they use it for school run and this is the real cause also told them to refuel properly as filling with £10 a day would use up fluid quicker DPF problems are generally easy to fix if looked at logically.
 

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the additive ecu didnt recognise so couldnt go any further.

you cant hear the pump when you take out the cap either. i couldnt tell if the cap was working as wouldnt allow me into it
 

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Looks like that has to be first port of call get the ecu working then see if it starts behaving

You wont hear the pump if the ecu is not working

The additive ecu should be hidden above the pedals or behind the BSI I forget which side its at on these I see so many Peugeots
 
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