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Hi All, I am looking for a new project and just want to know if anyone has done or know of this being done before. I am looking to convert a 2.0HDI Partner van 2006 to a 2.2HDI. Any thoughts or knowledge welcome

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Dont bother the 2.2 you will be thinking of using is the 16 valve version and is not a very good engine in terms of reliability and ease of access to parts.

The 2.2 bellhousing is bigger as is the clutch so you would need the box too the gear selectors will be different so you then need to alter the selector the clutch hydraulics work differently the list goes on and on then you get to the ecu problems !
 

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If you really want to be different then do the 2.2 :)

Im not saying it could not be done im just saying i doubt its worth it for the small gain.

Problem with diesel tuning is ultimately the gearboxes and clutches become the weak link as they are not really meant to handle the huge levels of torque.

My son has an 08 partner that had the horrible 1.6 engine in it he now has a 1.9 engine from a 405 with a huge turbo and intercooler grafted in it is incredibly quick but he has already killed 1 gearbox and its not particularly good in fuel so i dont really see the point.

If you just want more go its probably best to map what you have.
 

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The more im looking into it for what power im going to get it looks like it wont be worth it. Might go down the petrol route. 2.0 8v turbo, MI16 or a 3.0 v6


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V6 gets my vote we have 1 in a 206 SW and it looks bog standard it is fun :)

we also have a 406 coupe and i have a V6 espace the V6 engine is 1 of the best peugeot/renault engine ever it is so reliable i personaly have done way over 100k miles with it in various cars with hardly any issues and its 200hp standard with good economy.

Mi16/GTI6 engine not very easy to live with we have 1 of those too and it spends half its life in bits :)
 

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How much of a job would getting a 3.0 v6 in a berlingo/partner though? Its a big old lump.


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It fits no problem space wise we did have 1 sitting in to measure for shafts etc and it is dooable but only really worth in in later 2006 onwards vans but mounts are always the hard bit with the v6 you need to make your own.

we have collected all different mounts over the years from lagunas espaces 406 407 safrane etc so have a good selection to choose from but we never seem to have 1 to fit exactly you need to be a good fabricator nothing will bolt straight in.

You need a complete v6 406 as a doner and they are getting rarer now.
 

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Do you need custom shafts aswell? Im starting to like the idea of going down the v6 route now.


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IF you have a good selection of shafts you can usually mix and match them we made shafts for the 206 but in my espace i converted it to manual using a laguna box and diesel shafts.

Berlingo v6 has been done a few times as has c2 205 306 the engine is large at the top but as its all alloy not as heavy as you would expect.
 

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Ive spoken to someone who says the v6 will go in an expert van with no modifications using a ML5T gearbox and shafts. Ive looked but cant see anything to back this theory up. Have you ever heard of this conversion? 306 would be my choice but it looks like it will be a massive job & i fancy a sleeper


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Yes that is correct the expert is bigger and is basically an 806 both peugeot and citroen made v6 versions of these although with auto boxes only

the 406 V6 box is the same box as an expert 2 litre HDI although the bellhousing section of the box is specific to the V6 the main gearshafts etc and the case for the gears is the same as the van so it will bolt in an expert quite easily with only minor mods you could probably make a 6 speed V6 box too although i have not tried
 
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