No I don't think it will work. I think the keys the locksmiths were trying to program did they same thing as this chip and I think this where the problem lies. This would have worked on the Mitsubishi but for some very odd reason it looks like the 4007 is using a more sophisticated transponder.so would a start be to purchase one of the below Philips Crypto2 ID46-Hitag2 (T14) Transponder Chip PCF7936-FREE POST- | eBay
I told the original dealer I spoke with and he just informed me t that they will still have to contact Peugeot to get the motor goingMy experience with dealer service departments is that they have a high turnover of reception staff. Having spent the an hour or so on several occasions waiting for something at my local dealer it seemed like a hard job people were coming and going all the time.
It might help them if you told them you have a working key blade so can open the car and that you know your PIN.
I am not sure what the contact Peugeot bit is about. The dealers have accounts with Peugeot so it should be no more than logging into a server. Was second dealer willing to book you in?I told the original dealer I spoke with and he just informed me t that they will still have to contact Peugeot to get the motor going
Ok still waiting for the second dealer to get back to me. Might get back to me before X masI am not sure what the contact Peugeot bit is about. The dealers have accounts with Peugeot so it should be no more than logging into a server. Was second dealer willing to book you in?
The whole Covid lock down in Victorian Melbourne isnt happening and still no contact from the Peugeot dealerI was just reading an interesting paper on car key transponders and UHF remote entry fobs: file:///Users/ian/Downloads/aram_verstegen.pdf
Paragraph 2.2 explains the usual method of programming keys which I am sure the locksmiths were using. However, the author added a footnote which seems to fit with what the first Peugeot dealer said about having to contact Peugeot. The footnote said "Some car makers employ immobilizer systems and transponders that are pre-configured with security settings by the licensed manufacturer and thus cannot be replaced without manufacturer involvement. This normally means only licensed resellers can order replacement keys, and must specify the vehicle chassis number". I suspect cloning keys would be still possible but it would stop someone other than a dealer providing a key if all keys were lost.
I wonder if anyone else on the forum has come across a problem like this.
I suspect they have forgotten. I suspect all reception staff need to do is ask their head technician. I would keep pestering them. You may get a different person next time.The whole Covid lock down in Victorian Melbourne isnt happening and still no contact from the Peugeot dealer
I tried to post the URL but doing that doesn't seem to work so hopefully attaching the files works.Hey do you have a link to the page or file you are talking about regarding talking to the dealer to have the car started
You need a programmed transponder in the key before the BSI will unlock the engine ECU. Hence, if you think your battery was the cause of the non-start you will need the locksmith back before you can try to start the car. If you call the locksmith back it would be worth doing the beep test after he has programmed the key. If the car passes the beep test it means the BSI is recognising the key's transponder so should unlock the immobiliser.To sum up: an immobilizer problem may be generated by the key, the transponder coil, or even a battery or relay problem.
Maybe a silly question but could it be the battery in the the car it is turning over and I have put a 12 Volt charger on the battery for more then 24 hrs Just a thought
Good luck. The charge doesn't surprise me. I don't remember any of my service bills at the dealer being below $1,000 often significantly more.Just talked to the dealer the car has no immobiliser but the car wont start unless the darling French Peugeot people unlock the ECU which has to be dine by a dealer with their laptop plugged i into the car Only one key is available and just for the key only is 650 just for the key still have to pay for towing labour and key to be programmed Doing a lotto ticket now wish me luck
I wouldn't have thought key cutters could read the plip, which ism guessing that if I had a spare made I would have to somehow get it coded
to the immobiliser...
I have no experience with the keypad immobiliser system discussed in that post. It may be what the dealer was talking about when he said your car had no immobiliser. Immobiliser systems are evolving all the time.Interesting read
I wouldn't have thought key cutters could read the plip, which is
where the code is stored. The only way I know is to get a plip from
Peugeot (which can take five weeks as they come from France) and then
get your dealer to cut a key blank. They do not need coding to the
immobiliser when you get them as they already are. The dealer will
need to know the number from your key which is on a paper tag inside
the plip, to order