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not many threads about these engines

i have another in for engine rebuild psa engine same as ford

3.5 t tipper

anyone else on here have problems with these
 

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Not used in most PSA's for some years as 1.6 & 2.0 now develop the same sort of power. There must be loads of good ones in the scrapyards as many 607's & 807's being scrapped. I'm no mechanic but the one in our 807 has been just about faultless despite 225K miles. Biggest issue is extracting the injectors so the rocker cover can be removed to change the bent rockers after timing belt failure.
 

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2.2 in vans is a ford engine used by peugeot its not the same 2.2 used in 607 etc which was a good reliable engine the 2.2 in the vans is always broke !
yes its the 2.2 euro 4/5/6

engine and fail from oil pump failer

ford have been in partnership with psa for many years a think 2001 they been building these engines together
 

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2.2 is a bigger version of the ford 2 litre it is nothing to do with peugeot you are getting confused with the 2 litre and 2.2 DW engines used in later mondeos s max and the like these are peugeot but not the same as the van engine that is pure ford

Ford have used peugeot engines since the 80s to be honest in granadas and sierras using 504/505 engines
 

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2.2 is a bigger version of the ford 2 litre it is nothing to do with peugeot you are getting confused with the 2 litre and 2.2 DW engines used in later mondeos s max and the like these are peugeot but not the same as the van engine that is pure ford

Ford have used peugeot engines since the 80s to be honest in granadas and sierras using 504/505 engines
eh !

its a 2013 van and has the 2.2 psa engine in it they only brought out the 2.0 in 2016 a think of the top of my head

which are not in the custom transit

then they brought out the 2.0 euro 6 engine which is the euro 4/5/6 block they just changed the fuel system to siemans system from the denso crap system that keep popping pistons,

but they still haven't resolved the oil pump failer on these engines as they are still using the euro 4 oil pump, well the upgraded one which is still as shit as the old one just different part numbers

they should of stuck to the euro 3 oil system

they even started putting bigger sumps on these engine trying to resolve the the issues with the oil system.

what makes me laugh is ford put a recall on all euro 4/5/6 engines to have the oil pumps changed yet Peugeot / Citroen/ fiat haven't very strange

but the same block /heads/ and injectors,OK different turbos etc

and all the manufacturers have their own fuel systems Example pcm software etc

even ford started putting the 2.2 in rwd van in 2012 then went to the 2.0 in 2015
 

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I dont know what bit you dont get as the engine used in the boxers etc from 2006 was a FORD engine same as transit 2.2 reason its the same because it IS a ford engine as you say prone to all sorts of issues including oil pump failure

Boxers up to 2006 had a DW12 2.2 engine it is a peugeot engine if you look at the list you posted from wikipedia the only 2.2 listed is the DW12 mentioned above

The joint venture it mentions is the DV6 ENGINE AND LATER DW engine used in mondeos s max focus etc

peugeot engines in cars ford engines in vans
 

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All I know is Ive had 6 different Peugeots with the 2.2 engine and apart from the first needing injector seals they've been pretty bullet proof!! All did high miles and much better than the 2 litre unit in a lot of ways.
My first and second (807s) was the 135 HP the 3rd and forth(807 & 407) was 170 HP and the last two (508s) was 204HP. If they still putting them in the cars I would still be choosing that variant. I did wonder if they would put them in the new 508 next year with 240 HP. Doubt it though!!

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Yes 2.2 was the best driving engine as it had loads of torque but the 1 we are talking about is the DW series engine the 1 karl is talking about is the ford puma engine 2 very different engines.
 
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