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22/7/09 Running rough when cold DIAGNOSIS: Fault due to poor software and initialisation of car Download new software and carry out reinitialisation of the auto adaptives.
18/11/09 Transmission has slight oil leak / Water leaking into RHF door DIAGNOSIS: pan and gasket warped and new front door membrane needed.
14/12/09 Parts arrive to do previous fix
11/2/10 Not changing down gears and serious lag on take off DIAGNOSIS: found fault stored in ECU super knock fault in cylinder 2 and 3 clear fault and reinitialise system
24/5/10 Hesitation, jerk or miss when changing gears / rough running on cold start DIAGNOSIS: checked fault codes, code present. Removed knock sensor to check for grease buildup, none present. Removed inlet manifold, and checked, found some carbon build up. Awaiting advice from Peugeot.
8/9/10 Check engine shudder and loss of power whilst driving / knocking noise from rear suspension area. DIAGNOSIS: Rear shocks leaking and replaced. Engine: found fault code p2337 carried out cylinder head de-carb,replaced parts as required. Cylinder head was removed. NOTE: A TIMING TENSIONER IS LIST AMOUNGST PARTS SUPPLIED
8/2/11 Hesitation under load no power wont go up a hill. DIAGNOSIS: check found super knock problem, fault code p1385 carried out info flash B1aw011jp0 carried out head cleaning.
23/3/11 Car loses all power when accelerating. Turbo not working. Cold start rough running. DIAGNOSIS: Found fault code p2279 intake air flow fault replaced breather pipe also found battery week and replaced. When going to collect questioned re engine noise dealer kept car for more time. DIAGNOSIS: Found info flash B1ew0108Q0 fitted new tensioner as required
7/4/11 Car lost all power lucky to not have serious accident. DIAGNOSIS: found fault code p1385, super knock. Carried out infoflash B1aw011JQ0 Upper engine head cleaning and oil change.
12/4/11 Car running like next doors lawn mower depollution fault code flashing. DIAGNOSIS: Car on tow truck back to dealer. PPD session highlights misfire fault on cylinder 1 requiring new feul injector to be fitted before further testing.
Peugeot say they will fix it no buy back no care
The 7/4 incident involved a truck sliding sideways toward us in the wet a car lost power turning out of t intersection
PLENTY OF EMOTION DUE TO LACK OF MOTION
 

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Thats alot of grief within two years....:eek::eek:
There seems to have been an ongoing problem with your 308's 1.6 hdi engine that the dealer never got to the bottom off...With so many problems they should have fitted a new engine and sent your engine back to france to be checked out under warranty.
 
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You're daft to have kept it for so long if it's so fault riddled. My 3008 developed some big-O faults soon on as well so i rejected it, and 46 days after I bought the car peugeot agreed to replace it.

If you'd put as much effort into sorting out the problem as you do registering on here simplky for the purpose of bending our ears (for something which is not the fault of any of us) then this would have been sorted 2 years ago.

Now go away and come back when you're ready to take some responsibility for sticking up for your own consumer rights instead of being happy to keep a car suffering fault after fault after fault.
 

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Something to be said for not being stuffed around.
Gut feeling is that there are a lot of people out there with this problem.
 

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thanks chopper for your kindness
unfortunately in australia we have very little consumer protection in these matters and must let the dealer continue to repair vehicle whilst taking action
just though I may get some help mechanically. But seems I am just to be insulted
so yes I will go away because as a senior member of the forum I assume most are of your ilk and by the way most aussies think that our chopper is a dickhead
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thanks chopper for your kindness
unfortunately in australia we have very little consumer protection in these matters and must let the dealer continue to repair vehicle whilst taking action
just though I may get some help mechanically. But seems I am just to be insulted
so yes I will go away because as a senior member of the forum I assume most are of your ilk and by the way most aussies think that our chopper is a dickhead
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peardoau this is an open forum and you will hear alot of different opinions , i don`t think chopper aimed to upset you but when answering alot of posts sometimes we get to the point rather sharply , i don`t see this as a reason to leave this forum as it has a lot of valuable information and experienced people , we are all here to look for solutions to problems .:)

ps i think by adding this in your first post "unfortunately in australia we have very little consumer protection"it might have helped because i thought you were from here!!!!!
 

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Yes, filling in your profile properly would let people know where you are from. And chopper is one of our more valued members and generally knows what he is talking about.
Oh and if you had introduced yourself instead of just expecting free advice from the good people who endeavor to help out others you might find people more pleasant.
 
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peardoau this is an open forum and you will hear alot of different opinions , i don`t think chopper aimed to upset you
No intent to do that.

I was expressing my exasperation that someone in this day and age would buy an expensive product, then put up with it for so long when it's so bad, then have the temerity to come on here and moan at us about it.

Still and all, if he says they have little in the way of consumer rights where he lives...

The 2 big faults are software (not many, though being the cheapest this is what is usually tried first) and problems with the mechanical camshaft timing. There's an issue with the gear getting fractionally out of set, just enough that the signals being sent to the ECU confuse it sufficiently to throw a wobbly and make it sulk.
 

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That's the thing with forums - nobody knows who you are - so there's no point in getting the hump if someone replies and you don't like the reply.

As far as I'm concerned forums are useful for info - and a good argue if you're so inclined - if you want to make friends get on facebook or twitter or whatever.

Or is it just me?
 

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Here goes guys

Best sit down
CHRONOLOGY
22/7/09 Running rough when cold DIAGNOSIS: Fault due to poor software and initialisation of car Download new software and carry out reinitialisation of the auto adaptives.
18/11/09 Transmission has slight oil leak / Water leaking into RHF door DIAGNOSIS: pan and gasket warped and new front door membrane needed.
14/12/09 Parts arrive to do previous fix
11/2/10 Not changing down gears and serious lag on take off DIAGNOSIS: found fault stored in ECU super knock fault in cylinder 2 and 3 clear fault and reinitialise system
24/5/10 Hesitation, jerk or miss when changing gears / rough running on cold start DIAGNOSIS: checked fault codes, code present. Removed knock sensor to check for grease buildup, none present. Removed inlet manifold, and checked, found some carbon build up. Awaiting advice from Peugeot.
8/9/10 Check engine shudder and loss of power whilst driving / knocking noise from rear suspension area. DIAGNOSIS: Rear shocks leaking and replaced. Engine: found fault code p2337 carried out cylinder head de-carb,replaced parts as required. Cylinder head was removed. NOTE: A TIMING TENSIONER IS LIST AMOUNGST PARTS SUPPLIED
8/2/11 Hesitation under load no power wont go up a hill. DIAGNOSIS: check found super knock problem, fault code p1385 carried out info flash B1aw011jp0 carried out head cleaning.
23/3/11 Car loses all power when accelerating. Turbo not working. Cold start rough running. DIAGNOSIS: Found fault code p2279 intake air flow fault replaced breather pipe also found battery week and replaced. When going to collect questioned re engine noise dealer kept car for more time. DIAGNOSIS: Found info flash B1ew0108Q0 fitted new tensioner as required
7/4/11 Car lost all power lucky to not have serious accident. DIAGNOSIS: found fault code p1385, super knock. Carried out infoflash B1aw011JQ0 Upper engine head cleaning and oil change.
12/4/11 Car running like next doors lawn mower depollution fault code flashing. DIAGNOSIS: Car on tow truck back to dealer. PPD session highlights misfire fault on cylinder 1 requiring new feul injector to be fitted before further testing.
Peugeot say they will fix it no buy back no care
The 7/4 incident involved a truck sliding sideways toward us in the wet a car lost power turning out of t intersection
PLENTY OF EMOTION DUE TO LACK OF MOTION
This post was very helpful, I too have been having ongoing problems with my 308 1.6 turbo, very similar to many of yours and the dealer just kept saying no fault codes on he computer and giving it back to me, to be fair to them every bloody time I took it to them the car stopped playing up and performed perfectly on the day.

I printed out this post and took it to them and they managed to find a timing chain tensioner issues as well as a fuel pump issue, this seems to have finally solved the problems (knocking furiously on wood). This car has been a pain, it is my second pug, but the way things are going it may be my last.
 
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How childish. Mummy, Mummy, the car broke, me won't buy another. Well, it's getting harder to avoid that engine, seeing as MINI use them, and Ford use a slightly modifed version. Indeed, from next year every single Ford 3 and Ford pot will be PSA based, both sparker and diseasel, and the remaining 6 pot shared with PSA. Only the 5 pot petrol won't be common between the brands.

I would suggest you replace your dips**t dealer, not the car brand.
 

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How childish. Mummy, Mummy, the car broke, me won't buy another. Well, it's getting harder to avoid that engine, seeing as MINI use them, and Ford use a slightly modifed version. Indeed, from next year every single Ford 3 and Ford pot will be PSA based, both sparker and diseasel, and the remaining 6 pot shared with PSA. Only the 5 pot petrol won't be common between the brands.

I would suggest you replace your dips**t dealer, not the car brand.
There's always one on every forum who takes pleasure in abusing new posters and being an arrogant prick, I guess you are that one here.:nono:
 

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problematic 308 Turbo

This post was very helpful, I too have been having ongoing problems with my 308 1.6 turbo, very similar to many of yours and the dealer just kept saying no fault codes on he computer and giving it back to me, to be fair to them every bloody time I took it to them the car stopped playing up and performed perfectly on the day.

I printed out this post and took it to them and they managed to find a timing chain tensioner issues as well as a fuel pump issue, this seems to have finally solved the problems (knocking furiously on wood). This car has been a pain, it is my second pug, but the way things are going it may be my last.
Hi, Im new here, and am from Malaysia, where Peugeots are hot-sellers.
Im a professional detailer and hv many customers with problematic 308Turbos.
i was informed by the local Peugeot tech people that 308Turbos in Australia are also highly problematic and share the same problems with those in Malaysia.

Problem1:
Engine oil seen around each ignition coil pack. The base of each coil is moist with engine oil. The symptom is a slight "shivering/shuddering" when car is idling. Can possibly trigger fault code that says someting about about "misfiring" in certain cylinders. Caused by some sort of breather hose that's not secured properly. They have come up with a new clip to secure it tightly.
This problem is considered solved.

Problem 2:
Depollution warning...due to excessive carbon in cylinder head.
Turbo'ed Direct Injection engines are prone to more carbon buildup, and the Pug engines are especially prone because its EGR system is also a culprit. When exhaust gases leave the chamber, a small amount is rerouted back into the inlet valve. This slowly causes carbon buildup in the INLET valve area.
Allowed to continue, carbon deposits change the inlet airflow pattern and thus power is affected, and in extreme cases, cause knocking and hence "DePollution Warning" triggered by knock sensor.

Conventional fuel system cleaners are not fully effective as the injector can only spray downwards and not UPWARDs and sideways towards the valves/problem area. Peugeot normally remove the cylinder head for manual cleaning and its a laborious task. ive heard of certain machines+chemicals that can do a great job but hv no further info.

Best way to delay (not prevent) this situation based on my own testing:
1. Use the highest octane fuel you can find. i use 97. Many problematic 308s were running on cheaper lower octane fuel.
2. Frequently run the engine to max rpm and keep it there for 1min or so to blow out as much soot/carbon as possible. The gentler you drive, the more easily the arbon will start accumulating.

Problem 3:
Cam timing+tensioner
Theres definitely a problem here, but Pug techs dont tell the car owners.
It concerns baseline cam timing that varies by itself. As it shifts, the powerband also shifts wildly, and there's a loss of pulling power. In Malaysia, the mgmt has found a solution but its unknown whther they have implemented these rectifications on 308 Turbos sent in for routine servicing.

Hope the above info helps. thanks!
 

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One thing I have always believed in is this. Don't ask the question if you may not like the answer. If you don't like an answer then ask the pioster for justification of their reply rather than throwing your toys out of your pram and insulting the poster and then insulting EVERY member of this forum as you have.
 

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There's always one on every forum who takes pleasure in abusing new posters and being an arrogant prick, I guess you are that one here.:nono:
I guess there is always one new member who 'knows' all about long serving members and comes out with a dipshit remark like that. Well good luck getting help from people like Chopper who have a great wealth of knowledge after your appraisal of him !
 

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hi does anyone know why a 308 2010 1.6 turbo 4 speed auto may be blowing trans fluid out of the breather?? overfull trans fluid?? does anyone know how to check fluid level trans has no 19mm 6 sided bolt underneath any ideas??
 
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