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It feels like they've squeezed that 6th gear in and because of that the 2nd gear gate has been thrown too far left. No doubt left hand drive cars are fine!!
 
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I've done over 500 miles in 3 weeks. It should be going in for it's 1 month service shortly... maybe I have less rose-tinted glasses..

So it's had one return to the dealer for the coolant leak. I've noted a weird noise/vibration when just stopping in front of the garage (second or third time) which is more todo with the movement of the car rather than the engine. It may be the drive shaft bolts it's got a feel of that... and I've noted that the active braking has come on as a solid light a couple of times only to disappear after a few seconds. I park near a fence so it could be getting confused.. but this has happened facing the garage door and facing forward away from the garage door. I've also noted that the anti-roll back that is meant to give 2 seconds of time between break and accelerator doesn't although I think this is partly down to how much of a gradient it's on, but even when that will start to attempt to move back it's not picked that up and kept the brakes applied. Also there's a couple of points of mis-alignment and internal trim that need a prod to reseat. Also centre touch screen seems to flicker intermittently when the car is unlocked and both panels are black.
All will be mentioned when it goes back for the 1 month/1000mile check up.

It's a little french tractor sounding when cold and noisy at higher revs.

It has crossed my mind to ask for my money back (even last night). Seriously. Seems that there's lots of things to be ironed out for what is a 'premium car'. You have to remember .. for a device that is £29K.

So.. more..

Driving - it goes from A to B.
The EAT6 has a few oddities - as noted in other Pug/Citreon cars.
a) it loves D6.. and wants to get to D6 whenever possible the overdrive gear that on the 1.6 BlueHDi 120hp (300Nm) doesn't have enough power when travelling at speed say 70mph and to accelerate without dropping down one or two gears (France has 130km/h roads). That's where the flappy paddles come in.. accelerator to the floor has a delay for kick down unlike the paddles.
Now in normal traffic at lower speeds the 1.6 BlueHDi 120 has enough oomph with the EAT6 gearing to make it shift very quickly. However it needs the sports mode over 70mph to give the gearbox the hint it should use additional revs. I found myself engaging sports mode in france on the odd occasion. Naturally it make the car use the revs lower down the range too but with the car being new I'm not going to use it on a whole drive - just when I could foresee a need.

b) it loves D2... when you arrive at a junction or roundabout.. and only right when you're almost stopped it thinks D1 is a great idea. Very much like how I was taught with the manual but because the elevated driving position it's weird you feel like you have stopped as the car feels like it's going slower.. so D2.. feels wrong. You will learn to creep in D1 to stop the S&S kicking in..

c) EAT6 does sometimes jerk slightly when slowing and the gear box is caught out by braking harder .. it selects the next gear then finds it at the bottom of the rev range engages the clutch and the car feels engine braked for a split second before the gearbox attempts to drop down to the next gear.

d) I have caught it out a couple of times when attempting to accelerate at junctions - it's attempted to accelerate at too lower revs before, also it's attempted to change down just as I accelerate causing it to be at the top of the rev range again.. and change.

c) it has changed gear whilst going around a tight bend... anyone that's done any racing knows you don't change gear in the middle of a corner.. it unbalances the car and is bit of a safety concern!

Still not found out how to default the massage seat to off. I know how to switch it off but not set it to off to start with!

The car initially could be found a bit skittish oversteer feeling with the wheels gripping feeling the only thing stopping the back end stepping out.. typically on a rough road corner. I think the suspension is bedding in and easing a little - or I'm getting used to it. With a rough road surface the car's suspension felt hard, coupled with the new seats = very jarring ride.

S&S is both good and bad.. I've not had a problem pulling off into traffic yet, on one occasion, it's kicking in, as I've taken my foot off the break to restart, only to stop again when I've pressed the brake more (just as the traffic was stop-creep-stop).

So.. any good bits?

1.6 BlueHDi 120... will cruise and cruise.. and cruise at 70mph. Put cruise control on and it will be happy just sitting there. Quietly. In D6..

That cruising.. well it will return high MPG and decent stress free arrival. The S&S on one occasion (channel tunnel checkin) racked up 30 minutes of stop time.. and the starting of the S&S is normally very slick.

The two position electric seat makes life a doddle when people need to switch between the seating position. The lumbar support for me being 6'4 is good - often seats have a lumber support too low for the longer back. It makes that cruising comfortable and I didn't have any aches after a long drive.
With no panoramic roof there's still lots of head room in the front and back seats.

Love the steering wheel. Not really found the lack of road feedback an issue - this is not a sports car.. but the steering is light.

The height of the car makes coming over the top of ramps something to be cautious of - the bonnet is high and at low speeds having the front camera working I would suspect would be good.. The eurostar ramp in the train to the top deck is a good example.
The width of the car.. it feels wide.. but in actuality is about the same width as normal car.. but because the height.. looking down.. makes it appear wider still.
The rear view camera is a boon for parking - even with the standard allure Visio1.. and it works in dark situations too (although not very high resolution)
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The LED lights are great and subtly effective. I think it also has the best daylights shape/headlight appearance in the market.
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The mirror proximity warnings are great and not obtrusive. You notice them without being distracted. It's safe one motor biker who shot across a number of lanes from behind me, across my back and over took.

The body shape is pretty, and I think the Bianca White with the non-necro black roof/pana option (was it called necro?:D) you get this nice two tone effect - the white roof, the black windows, the black pillars - including the front-back pillars and so it has this wrap around black appearance. There are a few road tar hot spots in the design.. the LED lights between the tooth and radiator, the floor of the light picks up road grime through the aerodynamics, also the top of the windowscreen - there's a lip where the windscreen meets the roof panel - that edge gets all of the aerodynamic road tar and insects. The grill is not so bad but the front of the mirrors are another bug death spot.
I have front mudguards and will put in the rears soon, but the fronts have protected the black side trim from spray although the bodywork still gets some road tar (purely as the airflow goes around).

Not having a pano roof also makes the roof slippery.. it seems the roof bar option is good for cats..

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The interior with the full leather and electric seat is a £1400 option. Which balances between keeping the weight low for fuel economy, and being a full opulent feeling. The only thing I wish it did have is an option for he passenger full electric like the RR Evoke etc. My concern is how well the seats/padding will hold up.
Also the rears are comfy but need looking after - the leather will dent with hard things placed on the seat that makes me feel more careful with studs in jeans for example.

And lots of luggage space :D


So it's not all perfect. I am concerned about it's longevity (not a good thing from a 'premium challenger') although I know others that have no problems with Pugs, and people that have both no problem and dire problems with the premium brands.
The 1.6 BlueHDi 120 EAT6 is a easy drive cruising machine. It will take people + luggage happily but it's not a short run machine and for trips under 15 minutes.. it's not going to have the engine warm and will be returning you less MPG. How much of a saving with the cost of AdBlue and the changes to both the Vehicle Tax, and the cost of diesel due to the recent news is anyone's guess. Still. I've not seen an ounce of soot or smoke unlike an older Lexus yesterday that belched oil smoke on each auto gear change..

I suppose I'm been deflated a little in the problems the car has had, which given the cost is not the experience I would have expected.. and especially if the the sound of the drive shafts sounding like they've run out of grease.. results in a lengthy trip back to the dealer. If I didn't have that 'experience' then I think I could be more positive.

It seems as though your experience has not been great with the 3008. Given all of what you have experienced, and the cost of the car, do you feel confident recommending this car to people or would you on reflection look elsewhere?
 

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It feels like they've squeezed that 6th gear in and because of that the 2nd gear gate has been thrown too far left. No doubt left hand drive cars are fine!!
The car will be going in this Saturday for it's check so will mention it! I've been driving for a long time and never had this problem with any car. It's done over a thousand miles so it can't need any more 'settling' in surely? Just wish I could have the old gearbox back in this car. :D
 

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Blimey Nick, Beau said 'mini review' not 'essay', it is brilliant though, must have taken you ages. I’ll let you know if I agree with your reported niggles as time goes by.
 

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I'll share some of my experiences as well - I own the GT, so have mainly concentrated on those features:

Adaptive Cruise Control

Am finding this very useful, in particular for motorway driving.

You can set the gap between yourself and the car in front. The default (biggest) gap is too large, as I am always concerned of a car cutting into too bigger gap. The smallest gap setting seams fine and a more natural distance.
The operation of the ACC is very smooth, with no sudden braking or accelerating.

A double tap of the MEM button sets the speed at the speed limit applying to the current road. And + and - keys can then be used to increase or decrease top speed quite easily.

The car is quite good at picking up road signs and had no difficulty with the overhead variable speed limit signs on the M25 for instance.

One thing I did notice though, is that sometimes the limit on the M25 may be 50mph, but between gantries the car would for unknown reasons re-set the advisory limit back to the national speed limit – then go back to 50mph at the next gantry.

Not a problem as long as you do not accept that limit into the Cruise computer – but a bug nonetheless.

It really takes a lot of the effort away from driving – especially in heavy traffic, with the car even coming to a complete halt if necessary.

to engage the ACC the car must be a minimum speed and not on a windy road (took me a while to realise this - its not a bug but designed to make it safer)

Active Lane Control

I tried this on a clear section of road, and the car softly returns the car back into the lane should you not be indicating – its not designed to keep you in the middle of the lance, so will slowly bounce you from one side of the lane to the other without manual input (tesla autopilot it is not), but a nice safety feature.

Seat Massage

On long drives this has been quite a nice feature. There is a button on the side of the seat that activates the feature and gets the screen to the correct screen without having to worry about menus and sub-menus.

There are a few different types of massage and three different intensity settings for each one.

Engine & Gearbox

The engine is very smooth and quiet for a diesel. The cabin noise is excellent. Have no complaints here whatsoever – the engine has plenty of punch.

A press of the sport button makes a big difference to the performance, and stretches out the gear changes so that the engine revs higher. Not used this feature much so far as have mainly been in traffic or had family in the car! Will no doubt have a play next time circumstances permit!

The EAT6 gearbox to me is revolutionary. I cant compare to other auto boxes as it’s my first auto box - I absolutely love it.

I keep asking myself why I have purchased manual boxes up until now. I will never buy a manual box again!

Automatic Boot and Open & Go

A kick of the foot opens the boot - which is handy, however the kick needs to be of a specific length and position - you cannot hover your foot underneath the bumper - it needs to be a quick kick gesture.

It takes a few attempts to learn the correct foot gesture to get this to work - but once learnt its easy!

The open and go feature works very well indeed (again much better than the Nissan) with the doors unlocking effortlessly and car recognising key is in car to start the engine without any issues so far.

phew! - have not even mentioned how great the car looks or quality of interior!

Overall - very happy :nod:
 

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Yes, exactly that :)

You accept each speed change as it reads the signs, and the cruise adapts the maximum speed accordingly.
The standard cruise control does this. It will offer "<-MEM". You can also set a speed limiter. It works in france too although I'm not sure if you set MPH and then go to france it attempts to offer the wrong speed..

The adaptive cruise is when it detects and alters automatically for the car speed in front.

Edit.. adding this in here to save on postage :D

Some more pics of the Visio1 - previous post had a good one when in the reverse view this is the zoom downward view it switches when close:
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The options and 180 view in the background
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I have not yet done enough miles to do a thorough review but I can say its an extremely well designed car that is proving to be very practical and good to drive. The only issues I have had have been getting to grips with the electronics and changing my gear change technique to cope with the very notchy manual gear box. Thankfully, the latter is easing-up with use and my change of arm action. I particularly like the ability to alter depth of the boot space this means I no longer need to fold down a seat to get my wifes' folding bike in the back. As to performance, I tried out the Sport button the other day and was very pleasantly surprised that goes really very well - as fast as I will ever need anyway. Peugeot critics wrong again.
Yes I am still having problems with the gear box! nothing like our two year old Peugeot 3008 Allure! It's just second gear now that is still a little awkward. So it's either me or the gearbox.
This is something I've noticed in my gtline.
The gearchange into second gear isn't quite as refined as the others. Not bad, just not as smooth. Has this settled down now/ is it something you have raised?
 

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This is something I've noticed in my gtline.
The gearchange into second gear isn't quite as refined as the others. Not bad, just not as smooth. Has this settled down now/ is it something you have raised?
I have experienced exactly the same in my second car..Hyundai i10. Also complained at the dealer...no solution yet.
 

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If, you are referring to me as the self appointed thread policeman then I'm disappointed.

I, like other members, have just noticed threads going well of topic eventually having no relevance to the original thread.

This makes navigating the site difficult if there's something specific your looking for.

I really enjoy reading everyone's posts here and their journey to owning a 3008 and simply trying to be helpful as I think there's some really nice people here.

Paul.....(Paramedic not Policeman ;))
 

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It seems as though your experience has not been great with the 3008. Given all of what you have experienced, and the cost of the car, do you feel confident recommending this car to people or would you on reflection look elsewhere?
If you're going for the 'upper' segment.. idea has to be good and execution. In reality it's a family car modelled as an SUV.

The Visio is good, it has completely missed a parked car I was reversing next to. If I had relied on the camera only - I would have hit it as it didn't show on the image at all. However the fact that the wing mirrors drop down is really good.

I think the maturity of tech used, after a jump, needs a little more evolution. Comparing to the competition and saying it has it as standard is one thing - to compare to the experience of drivers iPhone/android phones that now play the required minimum experience, is just catch up.

What is good is the road sign speed sensing, it even recognises the french limits being on the exists (same circle with an arrow underneath) AND building that into the cruise control experience.

I use 'experience'. For some that's a RPM and MPH that's all that's required. For others it's changing the experience (that how Peugeot are selling it with the ambience concept) that one expects with smart phones - next is smart cars. If the competition can't 'be smart' they they will lose market share in that segment.

Now look at it as experience and then compare the 'oops moment' of auto-hold not engaging for example. The experience becomes incomplete. It's the reason Apple were, under jobs, so focused on a perfect user experience. Is it the end of the world? The basics must work reliably to build trust, to remove distractions from the experience.
 

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The standard cruise control does this. It will offer "<-MEM". You can also set a speed limiter. It works in france too although I'm not sure if you set MPH and then go to france it attempts to offer the wrong speed..

The adaptive cruise is when it detects and alters automatically for the car speed in front.

Edit.. adding this in here to save on postage :D

Some more pics of the Visio1 - previous post had a good one when in the reverse view this is the zoom downward view it switches when close:
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The options and 180 view in the background
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I noticed this, think it`s an awesome feature as well :thumb:
 

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Hi Dautres,

actually you are correct I'm not a 3008 buyer but I have a lot of interest in this forum because my good lady is waiting on delivery of a 3008 from the lease company. Expected delivery late June. It's because of this I am following peoples comments on her behalf. My wife is not technically minded and it's good for her that I see what everyone is saying so I can then relay (in laymen terms) to her what she might expect when her shiny new car turns up.
So I am here with a valid reason, it's quite sad though that certain members are unable to see the lighter side of things.

I find this forum very helpful and the people on here are for the most part quite knowledgeable. I have 4 peugeots in my fleet and I do try to help others as I have been helped by others. That is what these forums are all about.

I didn't mean to offend anyone, just having a grin with you all.

Time to move on don't you think!

Grumpy.
 

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Hi Dautres,

actually you are correct I'm not a 3008 buyer but I have a lot of interest in this forum because my good lady is waiting on delivery of a 3008 from the lease company. Expected delivery late June. It's because of this I am following peoples comments on her behalf. My wife is not technically minded and it's good for her that I see what everyone is saying so I can then relay (in laymen terms) to her what she might expect when her shiny new car turns up.
So I am here with a valid reason, it's quite sad though that certain members are unable to see the lighter side of things.

I find this forum very helpful and the people on here are for the most part quite knowledgeable. I have 4 peugeots in my fleet and I do try to help others as I have been helped by others. That is what these forums are all about.

I didn't mean to offend anyone, just having a grin with you all.

Time to move on don't you think!

Grumpy.
Totally agree. There are a few precious characters here that take offence at the slightest quip or comment that doesn't fit in with their seemingly rather narrow view of the world. To suggest that only peugeot 3008 owners or would be owners have legitimacy here on the site and all others do not is absurd! Keep on posting.
 

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Seriously! It's an outstanding Car!

Had it for about four weeks now and ownership gets better and better. We have the 1.6 diesel manual on the GT Line spec, a smooth, quiet responsive engine, even when Peugeot made rubbish cars their shining light was always their Diesel engines!

But the thing that stands this car out from the many excellent SUV's out there is the interior. It's light years ahead of the competition (exception being the new £45k+ Audi Q5) The iCockpit system is stylish, easy to use and looks great, as does the info screen with the menu buttons making very easy the navigate around. Wasn't fussed about the ambient lighting but now I've seen it, so glad it was included in the GT Line Spec, a bit geeky I know but it really does look great when driving at night! Talking of driving at night, The LED lights are absolutely superb.

A couple of downsides at the moment is we have to close the boot quite hard to shut it properly and stop the alarm going off when locking it. Also very trivial I know but when I undo the diesel cap to add fuel it just hangs there on a piece of string knocking against the paintwork!! Very annoying!! But the biggest gripe at the moment in owning the 3008 is the complete farce that is the tom-tom service. Why couldn't I just have it activated when I pick the car up? The dealer seems clueless in getting it started I'm getting very annoyed now!

But that still doesn't take away the complete joy I have in owning this car.
Ta dah!


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