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Hi folks what are your thoughts on the fiasco of the diesel engine cars are you keeping yours or thinking of going to petrol ,
Think we will be hearing a lot about this soon
Think we will be hearing a lot about this soon
Is the diesel going to die
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sadly I think diesel has had its day...I have had diesel peugeots since 1988 and I was getting at least 45mpg from my 305srd when most cars I could afford where only getting upper 30s.but looking at the 1.2 3008 it looks a good buy ( when its 1 year old anyway )
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What i have found strange is that in spain they all want the diesel and will not buy a petrol engine car , that is the avarage guy in the street when we got talking to the locals , so not sure what the rest of europe will do but my own opinion is that the diesel will last out and keep selling well .
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We are made to believe that diesels are this, that and the other, but I'm sure it doesn't take a genius to work out that a lot of people use them, and there's a reason for that.
I learned to drive in a diesel, and my first car was a 1.2 petrol. I hated the petrol engine, it just didn't feel right for me. So, I've had diesels ever since and wouldn't choose to buy a petrol again.
Whilst diesel may be more polluting than petrol litre-for-litre, the economy on a diesel engine is much better, especially when the diesel cars are being driven as designed and are well maintained.
My missus has a petrol 1.4 Fiesta, and she buys as much fuel as me in a week, but travels half as much as me in my Megane 1.5dci. The Megane does 41.8mpg around town on average. I doubt the Fiesta does 30mpg.
I think if penalising diesel drivers is going to happen, it needs to be penalties on the drivers who use their big-engine diesels to drive half a mile down the road to pick up the kids after school or some other daft little journey like picking politicians up from a tube station in a Jag and taking them to Westminster 5 minutes away.
I don't think they'll ban diesel personal vehicles, because many people rely on them and gain from the benefits of a diesel engine.
I learned to drive in a diesel, and my first car was a 1.2 petrol. I hated the petrol engine, it just didn't feel right for me. So, I've had diesels ever since and wouldn't choose to buy a petrol again.
Whilst diesel may be more polluting than petrol litre-for-litre, the economy on a diesel engine is much better, especially when the diesel cars are being driven as designed and are well maintained.
My missus has a petrol 1.4 Fiesta, and she buys as much fuel as me in a week, but travels half as much as me in my Megane 1.5dci. The Megane does 41.8mpg around town on average. I doubt the Fiesta does 30mpg.
I think if penalising diesel drivers is going to happen, it needs to be penalties on the drivers who use their big-engine diesels to drive half a mile down the road to pick up the kids after school or some other daft little journey like picking politicians up from a tube station in a Jag and taking them to Westminster 5 minutes away.
I don't think they'll ban diesel personal vehicles, because many people rely on them and gain from the benefits of a diesel engine.
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When it comes to DPF and other diesel specific issues, this can be massively reduced by people having the knowledge about how a diesel works BEFORE buying the car.
Dealers have a responsibility with this too, I think as much as they try to sell people the added extras like heated seats, diamond cut alloys etc, they need to explain to people more about the ongoing maintenance on a car and that diesels are designed for frequent longer journeys.
If people knew to allow a diesel engine to idle for 30 seconds after a long journey or heavy driving, then the number of turbo related problems could be reduced, therefore debunking the myths that the turbos on certain models are prone to failing.
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I love my diesels so hope that they don't die, especially as I've just bought another 
Seeing as I'm limited to cars of about 10+ years old (due to the student-parent budget) most of the petrol cars in my price range return fairly pathetic figures. Just to reduce the selection further I have 3 children so am pretty much restricted to a 307 SW, Citroen Picasso or Renault Scenic; none of which offer petrol engines that return anywhere near the economy of the DV6 engines.
I like to know how everything works and am more than happy to get the tool kit out when something needs doing so the woes of diesel engine maintenance doesn't bother me much.
On top of that the VED on my 1.6 HDI is about £130 a year, whereas the 1.6 petrol engines in PSA cars of that age are over £200 a year.
No doubt this will change though as our government delves deeper into demonising diesel engines, but hopefully it wont!
Seeing as I'm limited to cars of about 10+ years old (due to the student-parent budget) most of the petrol cars in my price range return fairly pathetic figures. Just to reduce the selection further I have 3 children so am pretty much restricted to a 307 SW, Citroen Picasso or Renault Scenic; none of which offer petrol engines that return anywhere near the economy of the DV6 engines.
I like to know how everything works and am more than happy to get the tool kit out when something needs doing so the woes of diesel engine maintenance doesn't bother me much.
On top of that the VED on my 1.6 HDI is about £130 a year, whereas the 1.6 petrol engines in PSA cars of that age are over £200 a year.
No doubt this will change though as our government delves deeper into demonising diesel engines, but hopefully it wont!
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