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Help me with my Air Con before I melt!!! UPDATED :)

My air con has been crap since I bought the car a couple of years ago. I decided to buy one of those top up cans from Halfords to give it a go and noticed that it was leaking back up through the valve.

When I seen this I thought I'd give replacing the valve a go so took the valve out (obviously loosing all the gas in the process) and put in a new one. I refilled again using the can of Halfords stuff to the proper level on the meter. I still believe it is leaking through the new valve. To try and stop any getting out I put some PTF tape round the top where the top up can goes to seal around the plastic cap.

Get into the car and it's still as if it has low pressure because you can still hear the low pressure sound and it's still cutting out after about a minute.

I can't put up with it in this heat and we're heading away next week and the drive will be a couple of hours and I can't expect the 2 year old and 3 month to sit in the car in this heat.

Any tips?
 
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Take it to somewhere like kwik fit they will regas it properly for only £49 if they can't do it then no charge failing this find a specialist and let them do it as the gas is not ozone friendly and you should not be just discharging it into the atmosphere :nono:eek:h and those cannisters are pants :D
 

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I've been quoted £78 from a local company who will do a vacuum (which I reckon I need seeing as I removed the valve) test and recharge. Kwik fit said £100 and local Pug dealer seal £80 plus VAT.

That's basically the same as the car I've used davidireland
 

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So safer keeping what I've left and get the full job done and use what I've left for topup later down the line then?

Did you get my PM about my other thread last night?
 

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Unfortunately not, a 2 hour drive away down to Co Fermanagh.

I've a feeling I may have that problem sorted, I put in a new sensor and the fault hasn't reappeared (touch wood). I've done around 100 miles since and it hasn't came back. Am just hoping it stays away, just waiting on my DPF fluid coming now to fill the tank and then reset in PP2000.

Out of interest, what sort of figures would you be looking at remapping the 136bhp 2.0 engine?
 

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Any aircon system opened to the elements for more than a few minutes really needs a reciever drier. Kwik fit never regas properly - the machine does it and no one checks for leaks afterwards. £49- daylight robbery, I have been charging £40 for years. If there might be a leak then it gets OFN and uv dye-£7 extra and a check for a leak. Otherwise I get a fine or imprisionment yet Joe public can charge a system with a cannister and fuck the system up due to air/moisture being in the aircon pipes and put 134a in to the atomsphere straight away due to leaks.

Im the last call after KwikFit , garages who aint got a clue how air conditioning works and for tossers who moan that Im charging for a regas with service as its already been done by said garages on top of fixing the fault..

R12 - Not Ozone friendly- but Ozone regenerates
R134a - Creates Greenhouse gases

R12 with the advance of aircon systems in the last 10 years would be less damaging to the evironment than 134a is now. Sytems are better sealed now due to regulation and R12 is less likely to escape though pipes as it has bigger molecules the 134a.
 

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Any aircon system opened to the elements for more than a few minutes really needs a reciever drier. Kwik fit never regas properly - the machine does it and no one checks for leaks afterwards. £49- daylight robbery, I have been charging £40 for years. If there might be a leak then it gets OFN and uv dye-£7 extra and a check for a leak. Otherwise I get a fine or imprisionment yet Joe public can charge a system with a cannister and fuck the system up due to air/moisture being in the aircon pipes and put 134a in to the atomsphere straight away due to leaks.

Im the last call after KwikFit , garages who aint got a clue how air conditioning works and for tossers who moan that Im charging for a regas with service as its already been done by said garages on top of fixing the fault..

R12 - Not Ozone friendly- but Ozone regenerates
R134a - Creates Greenhouse gases

R12 with the advance of aircon systems in the last 10 years would be less damaging to the evironment than 134a is now. Sytems are better sealed now due to regulation and R12 is less likely to escape though pipes as it has bigger molecules the 134a.
I am in Teesside I can say local it's not simple finding a company to gas other than Kwik fit probably the difficulty is lack of people's awareness that people like you are about or the prices you charge


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if I understand, the gass is escaping from the fill connector, check the shreader vaule, mine went, well the sring on it, and I was lost all my gas to.
 

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Got the AC serviced today at a local radiator specialist, they drained it via vacuum and tested it finding two leaks. Then filled it again, the air coming from vents is colder than it ever was in the car but the problem of it cutting out is still there. I done a 20 minute drive today and it only worked for two 1 minute periods within that time. I was nearly boiled by the time I got home.

From a bit of Googling I'm reckoning the cabin temperature sensor is screwed. Does anyone have any other tips on what it may be? As I said heading away on Sunday and can't sit in the car in this weather with it being so warm inside. If it is the sensor where is this located?

Any tips are appreciated.
 

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internal temp sensor is located behind the 3 horizontal holes in the dash near the radio. But it will only be there if you have the auto climate control.

Theres a guy up my way who will regas your aircon and check for leaks using UV dye etc for £20. it a decent garage aswell...shame its hidden by truck depots etc.

I went to kwik fit a while ago for my aircon, i didnt pay a penny as they found a massive leak which in the end, turned out to be snapped pipe replaced by dealers etc...that was 2 years ago nearly and the system is still ice cold.
 

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If I stick the PP on again, would it be able to tell me what temperature the sensors are reading?

How do I get into that sensor behind the 3 holes beside the radio?
 

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Not too sure mate, maybe if you use live data read outs.

But to get to it, i think you need to remove the radio and facia. been a few years since i took mine apart haha
 

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Not too sure mate, maybe if you use live data read outs.

But to get to it, i think you need to remove the radio and facia. been a few years since i took mine apart haha

Remove the glovebox.

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I thought it would be one way or the other, where in PP would I have to go to access it? I'm still a newbie with it and not 100% sure.
 

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There's no sign of that sensor behind?!?!

There is a round bit moulded into the plastic which I assume the sensor is pushed into but no sign of any sensor behind?
 

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I'm using Planet at the minute and it's saying the interior temperature it 33c which it about right, still cutting out though.

It's not reading any faults with the AC system in PP?
 

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Well, I know now the sensor's working ok as it's reading correctly in Planet, got it clicked back into place, not a lot of room in there for maneuvering. I reckon I knocked it out when fitting the radio looking at where it clips into so that's my fault.

The fan motor seems to be ok as when it is working I can change the speed etc.

The air con is now holding it's gas as there is a lot of condensation on the pipes whereas before there was nothing on them.

Still cuts out after a minute or so of going to no further on in that respect. Has anyone else any ideas?
 
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