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anyone replaced cambelt/ timing belt before?

how hard is it to replace the timing belt and water pump on a hdi 1.6 110 (2005)?

anyone done it before?
 

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does this help at all
 

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Yes it is very similar to this. Changed mine inc. water pump (307 1.4HDI) a couple of years ago.

A couple of important points though:

The crank and cam pulleys need to be locked with suitable sized drill bits, using the provided locking bolt holes, before you attempt to remove the cam belt. Failing to do so could cause damage to your engine when they move out of sync.

You will need a Torx bit to remove the engine mount and a trolley jack to support the engine when removing it.

I strongly recommend you get hold of a Haynes manual, I borrowed mine from the local library so it cost me nothing. I cannot remember all the little details but this would avoid missing anything important.

This is not a particularly difficult job as long as you have the right tools for the job.:thumb:

Now changing the clutch, well that is a completely different matter.:eek:
 

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Yes it is very similar to this. Changed mine inc. water pump (307 1.4HDI) a couple of years ago.

A couple of important points though:

The crank and cam pulleys need to be locked with suitable sized drill bits, using the provided locking bolt holes, before you attempt to remove the cam belt. Failing to do so could cause damage to your engine when they move out of sync.

You will need a Torx bit to remove the engine mount and a trolley jack to support the engine when removing it.

I strongly recommend you get hold of a Haynes manual, I borrowed mine from the local library so it cost me nothing. I cannot remember all the little details but this would avoid missing anything important.

This is not a particularly difficult job as long as you have the right tools for the job.:thumb:

Now changing the clutch, well that is a completely different matter.:eek:
A quick question, was your engine a bit wierd just before you changed the distribution kit (belt, etc)? Was your fuel consumption up and the engine feeling a bit off?
 

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Yes it was, although this did not solve the problem.

The car gradually got worse until it would randomly lose power and even come to a halt, before starting again as though nothing had happened!

Finally I went to drive to work and the car just wouldn't start. Called out the AA who read the fault codes with their diagnostic computer and it turned out to be the cam sensor!

This tells the fuel system the speed of the engine to tell it when to inject diesel into the engine, it was failing and so when there was no signal it thinks the engine has stopped and so does not inject fuel and so it loses power and cuts out.

The replacement part cost me about £20 and was very simple to install (although I did need to loosen the cam belt cover to get it out).

If you can find some one close to you with planet I would ask them to check for any fault codes to identify the fault. Not sure how much they will charge but an auto electrical garage quoted me £45 to do this!

That said changing the belt was still a good idea as now I am sure that it will last me some years before it needs to be done again. I have had one go on me in a Ford Escort and ended up needing a whole new engine.:eek:
 
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Yes it was, although this did not solve the problem.

The car gradually got worse until it would randomly lose power and even come to a halt, before starting again as though nothing had happened!

Finally I went to drive to work and the car just wouldn't start. Called out the AA who read the fault codes with their diagnostic computer and it turned out to be the cam sensor!

This tells the fuel system the speed of the engine to tell it when to inject diesel into the engine, it was failing and so when there was no signal it thinks the engine has stopped and so does not inject fuel and so it loses power and cuts out.

The replacement part cost me about £20 and was very simple to install (although I did need to loosen the cam belt cover to get it out).

If you can find some one close to you with planet I would ask them to check for any fault codes to identify the fault. Not sure how much they will charge but an auto electrical garage quoted me £45 to do this!

That said changing the belt was still a good idea as now I am sure that it will last me some years before it needs to be done again. I have had one go on me in a Ford Escort and ended up needing a whole new engine.:eek:

P.S. if there are any admins watching this thread could you remove all but the latest of my duplicated replies, tried to post them last night but they didn't come up then, so I thought they had been lost in the ether, but now they have all suddenly appeared! Weird.:shrug2:
What was your code for the cam sensor problem? did it mention coherance??
 

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My car is a 307 1.6 HDI SW and it has cut out on me a few times but only while driving, not while ideling at traffic lights, etc.

The damn thing is drinking diesel at the moment but the timing belt/distribution hasn't been changed since it left the factory in 2004 and I have 212,000 KM on the clock now so I'm hoping that €450 at my local dealer will get the car back on track.

My average consumption is 5.5 l per 100km at the moment, it used to be 4.2 to 4.5 l per 100km
 

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Don't know what the code was the AA man just told me there was a cam sensor fault.

All I know is that has run like a dream ever since I changed it.
 

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hi gavin,

where did you buy a new cam sensor, i have a 307 hdi se 110 that has done 150,000 and think it could do with a new cambelt, but maybe i shoudl just try the sensor first, let me know,

thanks
 
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Why change the cam sensor. since the DV6 engine came out in 2004 I've never fitted one that has failed.
They don't give trouble! :nono:
 

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so is it realistically possible for my, someone with ameteur knowledge of cars, with my haynes manual (i bought one the other day)...to change the cambelt in my 307....

i will have to buy/borrow the tools, but i take it they aren't too specialist...

thanks
 

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hi joey...if you know nothing really about cars and never done a timing belt (sorry just read your last post) i would not do it yourself. if you mess it up you can cause very expensive damage to your motor. i would take it to a dealer or garage that you trust. give them the parts or use theirs and get the full guarentee that comes with :thumb:

but if your like me and say "nah f**k off im not paying to have it done when i can do it myself" you will go ahead and do it anyways...and for that i wish you good luck :thumb:
 

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As John put it so well, why pay a garage when you can do it yourself.

I would say go for it.

I will try and find my Torx bits out tomorrow and see which size you need I bought a set from halfords for £10 but you may be able to buy just the one you need and save some money.

If you can, borrow a torque wrench, the engine mounts go into an aluminium block, which can be damaged if you are too heavy handed. If not tighten till you feel it nip then tighten a further 1/4 turn, no more.

The only bit you might have any problem with is the flywheel, the nut can take some shifting, follow the advice in the video, if that doesn't work use a wrench with a piece of pipe for extra leverage and 'crack' the nut with the wheels on the ground. Do not loosen it off till the car up on axel stands with the wheel off. Personally I just allowed a bolt in the locking hole to take the strain but I had never considered that it could break off inside the bell housing.

The cam sensor was from Sutton Auto Factors a few miles from where I live they do have a website but you should be able to find a local spares place which should have them. Eurocarparts also stock them.

If you do decide to change the cam belt, I would strongly recommend you get one of the kits rather than just the belt, it may be twice the price but if the tensioner was to fail after taking the trouble to change the cam belt, well, do I need to go on?
 

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thanks gavin I really appreciate that because i really do want to go for it myself, i like learning about it and its great to save a packet too....

are there any other crucial tips/ tools i should know about,

i've got my haynes manual and i've also got the youtube video....
 

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thanks gavin I really appreciate that because i really do want to go for it myself, i like learning about it and its great to save a packet too....

are there any other crucial tips/ tools i should know about,

i've got my haynes manual and i've also got the youtube video....
good on ya, your braver than me :lol: :thumb:

the biggest tip i can give is take your time, read everything in your haynes, watch/listen to youtube carefully and double check your work and get someone else to watch. if you mess it up, your done for :lol:
 

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good on ya, your braver than me :lol: :thumb:

the biggest tip i can give is take your time, read everything in your haynes, watch/listen to youtube carefully and double check your work and get someone else to watch. if you mess it up, your done for :lol:
Take photos of each step while disconnecting/removing parts. A video would also be nice if there's a budding Speilberg in the household. :D
 
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