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Anyone recommend any garages in these areas for a glowplug change, as would like to get a fixed price. Phoned Eurocarcare in Derby and they didn't fill me with confidence (they didn't think glowplugs were needed in 407s and hadn't changed many, and didn't seem to recognise link to dpf regen).

Any of you guys recommend any experienced glow plug swappers on 407's
 

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Steve Plain gets recommended a lot in Sheffield. Never used them though:

Peugeot Servicing in Sheffield : Steve Plain Peugeot Specialist
Contacted Steve Plain, seems very reluctant to attempt changing them as he conceded that they are a git to do, and they might shear off as they frequently get gummed/carbonised into the head. He said it should be the last attempt measure in solving my problem.... However useful to know a recommended guy in Sheffield so he might get some work from me in the future....

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I just used my usual guy. It's not a specialist job by any means. You can do them at home.
I just didn't fancy getting it apart to find I couldn't get them out.
 

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ok so limited use if you're in the Sheffield area, but for info, I got a quote this afternoon, Herts area for 2hours labour for the job. This is obviously just the book time but the guy on the 'phone checked with the mechanic and he agreed. They then asked why I thought that I needed them changed. When I replied 'cos Planet shows pre/post heating relay cct fault he said they all do that, and it won't effect regen. Maybe they just didn't want the work, but the place has a good reputation.
 

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Interesting. It does make you wonder, I had the same response from another independent Peugeot/Citroen specialist that in our climate they are not needed and they never change them.....

I have come to the conclusion that my issues which led me to look at replacing the glows are actually to do with the DPF filter showing 100% particulate load, and the regen system seemingly too be in constant regen mode with 1 minute breaks between regen cycles on all the driving I do. When running planet diagnostics while driving the exhaust temps are getting between 500-540 deg C. This is despite two of the glows showing high resistance when ohming the 4 pins in the black connector on top of the cambelt cover... So not sure the faulty glows are my real problem, my solution needs to involve stopping the constant regen.... Which I haven't solved yet....
 

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ok so limited use if you're in the Sheffield area, but for info, I got a quote this afternoon, Herts area for 2hours labour for the job. This is obviously just the book time but the guy on the 'phone checked with the mechanic and he agreed. They then asked why I thought that I needed them changed. When I replied 'cos Planet shows pre/post heating relay cct fault he said they all do that, and it won't effect regen. Maybe they just didn't want the work, but the place has a good reputation.
It will affect the regen. Go somewhere else.
 

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Interesting. It does make you wonder, I had the same response from another independent Peugeot/Citroen specialist that in our climate they are not needed and they never change them.....

I have come to the conclusion that my issues which led me to look at replacing the glows are actually to do with the DPF filter showing 100% particulate load, and the regen system seemingly too be in constant regen mode with 1 minute breaks between regen cycles on all the driving I do. When running planet diagnostics while driving the exhaust temps are getting between 500-540 deg C. This is despite two of the glows showing high resistance when ohming the 4 pins in the black connector on top of the cambelt cover... So not sure the faulty glows are my real problem, my solution needs to involve stopping the constant regen.... Which I haven't solved yet....
If the glow plugs are faulty and the car knows it (shows a fault) then it won't regen at all.
Is the car showing a fault/message for it being at 100% load? Sounds like you might need to clean the DPF out or replace it.
 

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Interesting. It does make you wonder, I had the same response from another independent Peugeot/Citroen specialist that in our climate they are not needed and they never change them.....
One to stay away from then, especially if they don't know that the plugs are needed for a regen.

There are lots of posts from owners on here who've had glow plug and regen problems, which have been sorted with a new set of plugs.
 

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Ok then here's one way of looking at it: Duff glowplug/s, no regen. Price to change them (small / indie garage quote) circa £200. Price of deFAP remap and no future worries circa £200 or less?
I've no vested interest in the remap industry but this option just seems easier to me.
 

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What have been the experiences of people that have had their DPFs removed or drilled out... and ECU remapped, how does it affect fuel consumption/performance generally. Are there any potential downsides

It was on the news day before yesterday that govmt believes it is illegal as contravenes the Vehicle Construction and use regs or something of that ilk and is undergoing a review as to what if any changes will be made to MOT for diesels..
 
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I've seen three 2.0 hdi's completely ruined by remaps/dpf removal.
I'm not saying the process is/was wrong more the quality and knowledge of those doing the work, it's VERY important to have someone who writes the remap not a numpty that just uploads it to the car and when it goes wrong disappears.
As many of these companies offering remaps only buy the maps.
Also heard a few very bad things about a couple of remappers in Sheffield/Rotherham area.

Think Bettyswollocks has just turned off the additive/dpf ECU and knocked out the filter on a few 2.0 hdi's with success. But he'll need to confirm that!

If the car is looked after and driven the correct way there's nothing wrong with pug's dpf/regens. Especially when you look at other manufacturer's systems.

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