[stro]

Hi I have the same system..just to give you an example my stop/start system has been working ok after initially having problems like yours. I went on holiday for two weeks and when I game back the stop/start system is not working all the time. So my advise is the system will go back to normal after continued use. I read there is a booster large capacitor which aids the the stop/start and this has to be charged fully together will the battery

 

[roybach]

To promote harmony on the forum I would like to present some info regarding the working of the stop start system, this info is available to all on the web.

Quote :- Stop car & press clutch - move gear lever to neutral - release clutch - then the engine stops. The engine won't stop if the car is moving, even if the aforementioned steps are followed. The engine restarts when the clutch is pressed prior to selecting a gear to move the car. The engine may also restart if there is a demand for power from, for example, the AC system.

The system was introduced to Peugeots by the first generation 308. The alternator can reverse its polarity, switching its function to become a generator and reclaiming energy that would otherwise be lost.

It stuffs the capacitors full of electricity that the alternator then piles back into the engine and restarts combustion in just 400 milliseconds. Once the engine is warm, the alternator takes care of all restarting duties. Like Mazda’s system, the fuel savings are immediate when the engine cuts out.

 

[Ricardo_308]

Hi,

my car has the same system and i have experienced the same issues. The dealer says it´s a normal behavior because the ECO system analyses several parameters like engine temp, battery charge, electricity consumption, etc

I usual turn off the ECO because it annoys me when the ECO engages and the engine starts to shut down e restarts again. I beleave, in a medium-long term, this feature will bring mechanical issues far more expensive than the fuel saved. Of course we have to think about the environment issue but if you have to replace several parts regarding this issue it will also leave and ecologic footprint...so, let's go buy a Tesla P90D! :-D

Drive safe!

 

[Richardbrown]

I have experienced the same issues you describe. I do quite a lot of short journeys at the moment and the system hasn't worked in months- a long journey normally sorts this out though- for a short while. What does need further investigation is why I haven't experienced this on numerous rental cars with stop/start (including large battery sapping diesels) which have been used in similar driving conditions. I have a strong suspicion that this system is there purely to give lower average emmissions figures to comply with EU demands. The 'official' emmision figures will assume that the stop/start system is working all the time if fitted- wheras in the real world I and others find it hardly ever works (& this is important) IN PRECISELY THE DRIVING CONDITIONS STOP/START IS MEANT TO WORK IN & REDUCE EMMISSIONS! It certainly isn't a deal breaker for me as in all other aspects the car is supurb but I think Peugeot need to come clean on how effective the system is. Out of interest how are others finding Stop/Start on other Peugeot diesel models?

 

[Johnnie]

I got my 62 plate 308 e-hdi with stop/start a year ago, and even though I took it for a test drive the eco function never operated.

As I'd read about the system before I purchased the car I wasn't too concerned, as obviously it was cold weather in January and thought that it was quite likely that the car had been used for short test drives and sat on the forecourt etc. so the battery probably wasn't in optimal condition.

Unfortunately 1 month later the car failed to start and it ended up costing me £200 for a new battery!

From what I remember Peugeot only give the battery 6 months warranty! and as the stop/start models require an AGM type battery I had no choice but to pay the RAC to fit a new battery.

I could have got one slightly cheaper, but it looks like a bit of a nightmare to fit, I couldn't drive the car and was concerned about resetting the system when I disconnected the battery.

The RAC did give 4 years cover on the new battery though.

So basically, don't just assume the weather is too cold etc, if you're buying a car with stop/start, then make sure the battery is ok!

 

[Ascalon]

My 2012 5008 eHDI seems to be doing the same.

I've not seen it execute a stop for the stop/start eco mode for months now.

It always starts, it has never even sounded reluctant to start and at rest, with no key in the ignition, the battery reads 12.4v.

So the battery appears to be good, and yet all it ever does is flash the Eco light.

Is there a procedure for resetting this function?

I've tried switching off the Eco mode and then restarting the car to see if that might kick it in, but to no avail.


Any ideas?

A

 

[Richardbrown]

I have previously posted about the poor performance of the stop/start system on the new308. I have recently given my new 308 150 Bluhdi a couple of long runs of over 90 miles and it still does not engage.

I have rented several cars this year which were diesel and their stop/start systems worked fine.

The most recent rental being a Megane diesel which had only 2000km on it and a poll of recent journeys on its (excellent TomTom based and vastly easier to use than the 308's ) Satnav showed it had done nothing more than drive a few km round the airport as a staff hack and one journey Faro- Albufiera. The stop/start worked perfectly every time.

My car is booked in for its service next week and this is the main issue I want looked at under warranty. I will let you know what is diagnosed.

 

[Ascalon]

Thanks mate,
I'd appreciate you sharing whatever response you get.

I know it is only a minor point of operation, but I'd just like the damn thing to work as it is supposed to.

I had a test drive of a new A4 for a week this year, and it being a press car had a hard life. The stop start was impeccable and only showed just how used to it not happening I had become.

 

[Jetpac]

Coming back to this post after a while as i had no reolution, so just lived with it.
Recently had work done on replacing an injector after the car wouldn't start.

Now the ecomode kicks on when it should.. so im assuming that some kind of system reset was done when the injector went in? (it wasn't a feature woth having my mechanic look at before, but now it seems to work fine.)

 

[partington]

Eco stop start on new 3008 Allure

I have just purchased a 3008 diesel blue eco 1.6 where the Eco stop start is not working. When I come to stop in traffic, I disengage the gears ie I am in neutral, and have my foot o. The foot brake the engine stops, then as soon as I apply the Electric hand brake the engine starts up again. It doesn't matter what I do, the Electric hand brake seems to override this Eco function! Is there a solution?

 

[Ascalon]

Right, I have a definitive update on my experience here.

I reported these issues, that I didn’t think were issues, in February.

Since then, when the weather got warm (as in consistently above 15c) the stop/start would occasionally work again. Not in any consistent sort of way, just the odd time and enough to make it noticeable.

Then, two weeks ago, the wife was driving through the city when the stop light came on and she was unable to, and limped on to a safer spot. Then more lights came on, ABS, VSC and stop and engine. The MFD said electrical fault, requires repair.
So, I had it towed and delivered to a main dealer and the short answer was dead battery.

On investigation, the tensioner pulley on the alternator belt had worked loose and the alternator was not properly charging the battery.

New tensioner pulley, new battery and fitting — more than €500!
The verdict was, if your eco mode stop/start is not working almost all the time you would expect it to, have it looked at, as there’s something up. They were adamant that it is a reliable system and if it isn’t working as you’d expect, there’s a problem.

Anyway, mine is now back to rights and fully sorted. Which is good, ‘cause I likes it.

 

[Sinisha]

I have just purchased a 3008 diesel blue eco 1.6 where the Eco stop start is not working. When I come to stop in traffic, I disengage the gears ie I am in neutral, and have my foot o. The foot brake the engine stops, then as soon as I apply the Electric hand brake the engine starts up again. It doesn't matter what I do, the Electric hand brake seems to override this Eco function! Is there a solution?

No, it is for security reason, so you can't forget and leave the car with not running engine and after a while engine kick in again, but without your presence. So, when your engaged hand brake, car assume that you want to go out.

 

[Sinisha]

Hi,

my car has the same system and i have experienced the same issues. The dealer says it´s a normal behavior because the ECO system analyses several parameters like engine temp, battery charge, electricity consumption, etc

I usual turn off the ECO because it annoys me when the ECO engages and the engine starts to shut down e restarts again. I beleave, in a medium-long term, this feature will bring mechanical issues far more expensive than the fuel saved. Of course we have to think about the environment issue but if you have to replace several parts regarding this issue it will also leave and ecologic footprint...so, let's go buy a Tesla P90D! :-D

Drive safe!

I don't quite understand, what is annoying in stop/start? You suppose to do anything special, just as usual: stop on the traffic light, put in neutral, wait, put in first, go. With or without stop/start, isn't it?
And I believe that is not reason to worry about mechanical issue, engineers do just right with technology and materials to do what suppose to do for a long time. Just like injectors, wipers, fans, pumps ....

 

[Sinisha]

Eco system (Stop/Start) switch itself off when environmental temperature is above 34 degrees C. Eco switch is lit, and on attempt to switch it back on, message "Unsuitable temperature" on the screen appear.

 

[matchless]

Matchless

My Peugeot 3008 with the stop start function , the vehicle is just over 3 years old and covered 34 K , the stop start function works perfectly on short runs however anything over 150 miles I have experienced eratic problems with this function , on a recent trip from the midlands to Newhaven all was ok until I reached the outskirts of Newhaven when in fairly heavy traffic the stop start was doing just about everything but function correctly , there was even a loud bang as though I had been rear ended but there was no one behind me , this also happened about 2 weeks ago on a trip from Dieppe to Toulouse about 200 miles into the trip I had the same problem again , as all the mileage was done in daylight and a warm day the only electrics used were the indicators , the battery is in perfect condition , I would very much appreciate any advice anyone can give me , many thanks

 

[adiebabe]

stop start

i have 308 with s/s the system seems to work work when it wants ,this morning it wasnt coming on i was playing around with the heater as im having problems with that i just turned the temp down from hi and when it reached 20 degrees the s/s started to work weard my car is going in on friday hope peugeot can sort it but i have my doubts.

 

[juttla007]

Hi there I have also asked this question?
The reply I have got from Peugeot is they us a small box on the engine that store the energy, when that full your stop start kicks in and also if you a/c is on it will not kick in as all that energy is used there , but what I have found if you come to a stop and the eco light flashes and you at a stand still and the engine is still on, just put the foot down on the cluch the release and that sometime put it in eco mode and your engine will switch off ! Hope I was some help ....

 

[flaxvert]

Hi there I have also asked this question?
The reply I have got from Peugeot is they us a small box on the engine that store the energy, when that full your stop start kicks in and also if you a/c is on it will not kick in as all that energy is used there , but what I have found if you come to a stop and the eco light flashes and you at a stand still and the engine is still on, just put the foot down on the cluch the release and that sometime put it in eco mode and your engine will switch off ! Hope I was some help ....

The box that stores the energy is a capacitor. My SS works with the A/C on, I have tried it with the blower on max and the aircon on and the engine turns off still. Maybe this is something to do with the outside temp?

 

[Jonsy]

508 2.0 BlueHdi Doing the same

My 508 has just started dong the same, not stopping at all in eco mode, just getting the eco flash. I bought it last Dec and the SS worked ok till a week ago since when it has not worked at all; long or short journey. In its history the battery was changed at 18 months old. Wondering if that cured the problem then. Everything else is working fine. Going to try with/without the A/C.
Jon

 

[Brixmis7]

3008 Alure Automatic

I purchased my diesel 2016 on 17 January 2017, with 700 miles on it. From purchase to 31 March 2017, I have only done short commutes to/from work. I had never seen the SS work. This weekend I did a 250 mile round trip and the SS works great now. "Happy Days :thumb:".