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Hi all,

First of all, I say hi to all as a new member and an owner of beautiful 407 SW Sport Swiss Pack Fully loaded, year 2005.

I have couple of issues as follows below;

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ABS/ESP/STEERING ANGLE SENSOR/SPEED OF ROTATION ISSUES;

1. I had ABS and ESP/ASR fault coming on display always. I hooked up PP2000 and found these codes:

C1135 steering Wheel angle sensor signal
C1388 Steering wheel angle sensor signal
C1330 Front RH wheel speed sensor signal
P0606 Control Unit

Answer: When I've seen the fault sensor, I went and I purchased genuine one from Peugeot dealer and I've installed same day. When I started the vehicle ABS Light went OFF and the ABS was working very good but now its coming again ESP/ASR fault only. I have done as well the new grounding for both tail lights and it's okay there is no issue with ground there.

I connected again to PP2000 and the three codes still there in exception of C1330 Front RH sensor was gone.

Then, I drove 50-100 meters straight and wanted to do a calibration of Steering Angle Sensor but more than 10 times it didn't accept says it failed to proceed calibration. Tried to delete codes still coming up. Checked the brake lights both working working well, tested Cruise Control as well working well (due to brake switch issues I've heard).

Then I connected again PP2000 and went to Steering. I found another code;

U1205 Speed of rotation of the steering wheel information fault

My question to this is: What it can be this issue while ABS now is working and ESP/ASR not. What are the codes found related to? What is the steering fault U1205 is it different with angle sensor? Where to look and how to fix these issues? I am just lost... COM2000 is working properly, no Airbag fault, horn is working, stalks working.

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AL4 4 SPEED AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION ISSUES;

My transmission "problem" started about a couple of weeks ago
when my A4 gearshifts started to behave abnormally.

1. In 'D' mode, it shifted late from 2nd to 3rd gear holding the rpms
to over 4000 before it decides to upshift with a slight jerk. I call
it a sticky 2nd gear. This doesn't happen in tiptronic mode. I can
manually shift from 2nd to 3rd at any rpm. Moreover, when I am driving even straight or climbing hills at 60-70 Km/h and keeps the pedal strictly to that position the RPM it moves from 2.5 to 2.9 again back and forth and you can feel the car is moving shaking like you press and depress the gas pedal non-stop and I think this time changing gear non-stop from 3 to 2 then back again 3 to 2 continuously. When I press fully the gas pedal it takes time to switch back to 2 like 3-5 seconds then it doesn't have that power to jump and move faster and it shakes juddering the whole car. In gear 4 it works well.

2. A vibration could be felt on the steering column when
the above happened especially climbing.

3. Sometimes in tiptronic mode, when I manually shift from 2nd to 3rd,
it would immediately drop back to 2nd automatically with a rise in
rpm.

4. Once only it happened, it lost the letter D and showing "-" sign. When I put in tiptronic it showed 2 gear and then went back to normal.

5. Occasionally there will be a slight shudder whenever I coast to
a stop at traffic lights and it's lazy moving at 1st gear until it reaches 2.5-3 Rpms then it kicks in then moves faster but it doesn't smoke at all, starts very well, RPM is stable while staying in traffic lights waiting or in Parking.

I have connected my PP2000 diagnostic (latest version) and it doesn't have any trouble code in Gearbox.

My question; What it can be the issue? I haven't changed the oil yet for 40.000 Kilometers now. I haven't changed any solenoid valve yet. I have ordered ESSO LT71141 oil (4 liters) preparing to change and ordered 2x new solenoid valves 2574.16 but would like to hear from you if this issue it relates to these two oil and valves or it needs whole rebuilding. I've read in one forum the guy had similar issue and he replaced MAP Sensor and everything went back to normal but in PP2000 or DiagBox doesn't show any issue related to Engine, I've measured injectors all are at -98 100 at idle. Particular filter is at 52% still OK.

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REMOTE CONTROLS ISSUES (BOTH KEYS);

1. Before, both remotes were working well, unlocking and locking doors.
2. Now, I left a car for a month in a garage because I had to travel to Dubai and then I came back. When I came back, I went in garage and tried to unlock and it DIDN'T. I asked my wife to give me the 2nd remote and that one too didn't respond when I pressed any button.
3. When I put my key in door handle It unlocks, then I started the car and the car started in a second without hesitation.
4. After, I turned OFF and got out of the car then I've tried the remote and it works well, both of them. Strange!
5. After 4 weeks I had again to travel in Europe and left a car for 2 weeks only. I came back and guess what again the same issues happened, both remotes doesn't unlock only after I go in and start the car then both working.

My question: What this issue can be? It is really strange. If I keep using the car everyday, this issue is not happening. When I leave for a period of time, this issue comes back.

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BOTH FRONT FOG LIGHTS NOT WORKING;

My fog lights were working well and one day Right hand Fog Light Bulb was burnt. I replaced and it didn't work. I then took other side one and still didn't. I purchased two brand new ones replaced both and now both not working... even If i bring back the left one to it's place. All are genuine bulbs (around 30 Euro's both H11). Anyway, my rear fog lights are working in exception of front.

I connected PP2000 Diagnostic and went through BSI Menu and these codes;

1. F98F Engine fuse box Front left fog lamp fault
2. F990 Engine fuse box Front right fog lamp fault

My answer; I've tried all fuses and checked all are okay. Where is the relay of Fog Lights? I've checked all connectors in fuse boxes (engine compartment, inside interior and at the back too) all looks perfectly.

Question: Where is this issue related to? How to fix it?

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ENGINE ISSUES:

I've diagnosed and found two codes;

1. P1598 Cooling Circuit bypass valve
2. Pre/Post heating relay circuit. Relay not controlled and spark plugs supplied, permanent

Answer; Measured all glow plugs and found out one is burnt. going to replace but the Cooling circuit bypass valve what it is for? What do I check or change? Is this the sensor to the thermostat housing? or else...

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AIR CONDITION ISSUES:

Diagnosed and found this code only;

1. Passenger Compartment humidity sensor, not recognized, permanent.

Answer and question; Everything works fine in Aircon. No issues so far. What it the issue with it?

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These are all I found. I know that it took to much to write for me and you to read and I really ask for your apologize first then for your professional help anyone who is good on Pug's and who can sort these out for me. I am living in Eastern Europe, Kosovo and here there are not much France cars and mechanics or authorized workshops to help me. I know about cars and my hobby is electronics, mechanics and computers (graduated in IT) so I am familiar to repair anything but with the help of you of course to source an exact part or place to look for.

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Kassi
 

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The AL4 gearbox in one of my previous 406's did all sorts of things like you describe. Changing the 2 solenoids and fresh oil sorted it's problems.

Cant help with the rest of your issues as my 407 has been reliable except for a failed tyre pressure sensor and occasionally telling me a foglight bulb has blown but all are working...
 

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Lots of Kosovans were here in N. London working their nuts off on building sites - its a hard life.
Fuse 6 in the engine fuse box supplies the front fog lamps from relay 1. This relay is built in to the engine fuse box, BM 34. Relay coil has a permanent live and is activated from the BSI by a switched earth via the CAN network I think. Sounds more like a wiring problem (earth?) between fuse box and fog lamps.
Wiring diagrams available from Peugeot Service Box for a few euros.
 

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Thank you for your help. I think it should be Earth E15 as I've read in some posts. Its somewehere beside headlights.

That's true that some Kosovans living and working there and for sure its tough and a hard life. The economy here is not improved much i mean in economic terms and we have to work abdroad to make life easier.
 

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According to the wiring diagram the relay for the fog lights is in the engine bay fuse box, relay 05, and lamps are supplied via fuse 13.
 

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Regarding your fault P1598, wiring diagram shows a solenoid valve (component 1293) on the water outlet housing. I assume this is the "bypass valve" the fault code refers to. Check the connection to it, clean and retest for fault.

If the engine is getting up to operating temp within a short period of time and staying there, I would think the valve is operating correctly and the fault is possibly intermittent being caused by bad plug connection on the valve ..??
 

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Just clear the faults, and make sure your battery is fully charged at all times. You should be good to go. Modern cars do not like to loose power. The fog light issue I dont know, have never heard about it before.


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Thank you sir!

I think that's the one but I've heard that PUG had changed that thermostat body to modified one and they have eliminated this solenoid valve at all. But I have no idea do we need to code in Diagbox to completely eliminate this valve? As well, I have tried finding to purchase in ebay and other stores this solenoid valve it's impossible to find it. Even I've tried whole thermostat body to find the same and all of them in ebay are without this valve. Strange...
 

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Specs for your vehicle as per servicebox.

Vehicle family 407
Build code 10301 CJ 2 0573
Warranty Start Date 01/06/2005
Engine serial number 10 DYSN 4009574
Gearbox serial number 20 HZ32 0294535
BER e2*2001/116*0297*03
General information
PRODUCT TYPE CAR
COMMERCIAL MARQUE/COMPONENT TYPE PEUGEOT
VEHICLE FAMILY 407
SILHOUETTE 5 DOOR ESTATE
TRIM LEVEL AA PACK
ENGINE DIESEL TURBO DW10BTED4
TRANSMISSION BVA4
PAINT TYPE METALLIC PAINTWORK
BODY COLOUR EZR - PAINT ALUMINIUM GREY
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE TRESSE ANDORRE + LEATHER L019 "RS"
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR "FT"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) HP20 (AG)
ENGINE (TYPE) EW/DW

Vehicle characteristics
TRIM LEVEL AA PACK
PAINT TYPE METALLIC PAINTWORK
BODY COLOUR EZR - PAINT ALUMINIUM GREY
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE TRESSE ANDORRE + LEATHER L019 "RS"
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR "FT"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) HP20 (AG)
STEERING UNVARIABLE POWER STEERING

Fuel supply-Engine
ENGINE DIESEL TURBO DW10BTED4
DIESEL FILTER WATER DETECTOR WITHOUT DIESEL FILTER WATER DETECTOR
FUEL DIESEL FUEL
EMISSIONS STANDARD (ENGINE) ANTI DEPOLLUTION L5 (ENGINE)
ENGINE (TYPE) EW/DW
OIL COOLER MNTG EXCHANGER ON ENG & G/BOX
CRANKCASE GAS CIRCUIT HEATING W/O HEATER CASING GAS CIRCUIT
POWER VARIATION (ENGINE) STANDARD POWER
EOBD SELF-DIAGNOSIS SYSTEM "EOBD" SELF-DIAGNOSIS
DEVICE (ANTIPOLLUTION) "EGR" EXHAUST GAS RECYCLING
VEHICLE TECHNICAL DEPOLLUTION L4 VEHICLE TECHNICAL DEPOLLUTION
PARTICLE FILTER PARTICLE FILTER
FAN 1 ELECTRONIC FAN INTEGRAL CTRL 160W
INJECTION ASSOCIATED VARIANT SIEMENS ASSEMBLY
TANK FILTER CITHOUT RESERVOIR FILTER
THROTTLE HOUSING (ENGINE INLET AIR CIRCUIT) MOTORISED THROTTLE BODY (ENG AIR INTAKE)

Gearbox Transmission
TRANSMISSION BVA4
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) HP20 (AG)
FINAL DRIVE RATIO CP 23 X 66
WHEEL STYLE WHEEL COSMOS 17 POUCES
CLUTCH WITHOUT CLUTCH
DIFFERENTIAL (GEARBOX) DIFFERENTIAL 86
RIM/TYRE SIZE 17 INCH TYRE FITMENT
TYRE (SIZE, TYPE) 215X55X17 W TYRE
WHEEL (TYPE) ALLOY WHEEL ASSEMBLY 3
INFLATION PRESSURE LOSS INDICATOR TYRE DEFLECTION INDICATOR
GEARBOX TYPE HP AUTOMATIC GEARBOX

Suspension-Steering-Brakes
STEERING COLUMN MANUALLY ADJUSTED STEERING COLUMN
STEERING UNVARIABLE POWER STEERING
FRONT ANTI-ROLL BAR FRONT ANTI ROLL BAR DIAM 24,5
STEERING TRAVEL TRAVEL MECHANISM STEERING 174
SUSPENSION NORMAL SUSPENSION
ACTIVE SUSPENSION WITHOUT VARIABLE SUSPENSION
DYNAMIC STABILITY CONTROL SYSTEM ELECTRONIC STABILITY PROGRAM
STEERING (OPERATION) ASSISTED ELECTROHYDRAULIC STEERING

Body fittings
TOWBAR WITHOUT TOWBAR
SIDE MOULDINGS (TYPE) SIDE TRIM BODY COLOURED + CHROME
SIDE MOULDINGS (DIMENSION) LATERAL PROTECTORS + SIDE SILL
WHEEL EMBELLISHER (STYLE) WITHOUT WHEEL CAP
SILL ILLUMINATION LAMP SILL ILLUMINATION
ADDITIONAL SHIELD (UNDER ENGINE) W/O ENGINE UNDERSHELDING
EXT. REARVIEW MIRROR COMP. FUNCTION ELECTRIC FOLDING EXT REAR VIEW MIRROR NO MEMORY
WINDSCREEN WIPER FRONT WIPER BLADE WITH RAIN SENSOR
REAR SCREEN WIPER REAR SCREEN WIPER
HEADLAMP WIPER HEADLAMP WASHWIPE
FRONT PANEL BLANK WITHOUT FRONT BUMPER PLUG
ROOF GLASS WITH ROOF WINDOW
SPARE WHEEL STEEL WHEEL + STANDARD TYRE
EXTERIOR ACCESSORIES BODY COLOURED EXT HANDLES + EXT MIRROR
SUN ROOF FIXED ROOF
BUMPER TRIM MATT COLOUR BUMPER STRIP + STAINLESS STEEL TRIM
GLASS (APPEARANCE) TINTED + MOULDED WINDOW GLASS
WINDOW (TYPE) LAM W/SCREEN + SIDE + RR TOUGHENED
HANDS FREE ACCESS AND STARTING NO ACCES AND HANDSFREE STARTING

Interior fittings
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE TRESSE ANDORRE + LEATHER L019 "RS"
ANTI-THEFT ALARM WITHOUT THEFT PROTECTION ALARM
REAR SEAT ARMREST WITH REAR ARMREST
REAR SEATBELT REAR 3-POINT 3 INERTIA REEL SEAT BELT
CLIMATE (AMBIENT TEMP) TEMPERATE COUNTRIES
CHILD LOCK MANUAL REAR CHILD LOCK
SPEED GRADUATIONS GRADUATION KMS/H
DRIVING POSITION LEFT HAND DRIVE
ADDITIONAL HEATING WITHOUT ADDITIONNAL HEATING
DASHBOARD EQUIPMENT GEOMETRIC DECOR
INSTRUMENT PANEL (CHARACTERISTICS) GRADUATION 260 KM/H OR 160 M/H LIGHT BACKGROUND
DOOR TRIM GEOMETRIC DECOR
LOUDSPEAKER 4 FR SPEAKERS (2 TW + 2 FR) + 2 RR SPEAKERS
RADIO CONTROLS REMOTE RADIO CONTROL
SCREENING (BLIND, SIDE SUNBLIND, SUNROOF) WITHOUT REAR BLIND
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT HEIGHT CONTROL PASSENGER BOOSTER PARALLEL + FRONT ADJUSTMENT
DRIVER SEAT CONTROL DRIVERS FRT SEAT ELEC CONTROL
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT CONTROL PASSENGER FRT SEAT ELEC CNTRL
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT ADJUSTMENT MODULAR PASSENGER’S FRONT SEAT CUSHION ADJUSTMENT
COMPACT DISC MOUNTING COMPACT DISC
SATELLITE NAVIGATION SYSTEM WITH NAVIGATION SYSTEM COLOUR SCREEN
HEADLAMP BULBS DISCHARGE BULB
REAR WINDOW LIFT SEQUENTIAL ELECTRIC REAR WINDOW + LOCKING
DISPLAY DISPLAY (NAVIGATION+VIDEO+RADIO+CLOCK, TEMP, CD)
COURTESY MIRROR DRIVER’S + PASSENGER’S CONCEALABLE WITH LIGHT
OIL GAUGE TWO-FUNCTIONS INDICATOR OIL LEVEL+TEMPERATURE
HEATING ELEMENT NON HEATED SEAT
FRONT LATERAL AIRBAG THORAX SIDE + CURTAIN AIRBAG
FOOTWELL LIGHTING WITHOUT DOOR SILL LIGHTING
AIRBAG DEACTIVATION MANUAL AIRBAG DEACTIVATION
HEADLAMP HEIGHT ADJUSTER AUTOMATIC HEADLAMP ADJUSTMENT
DIRECTIONAL HEADLAMP WITHOUT DIRECTIONAL LIGHTS
RADIO RECEIVER "RT3" RADIOTELEPHONE SYSTEM
REFRIGERATION AUTOMATIC AIR CONDITIONING
CRUISE CONTROL REGULATOR OR SPEED LIMIT
DRIVER’S SEAT HEIGHT CONTROL ELECTRIC CONTRL DRIVERS HEIGHT ADJ
INTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR DAY -NIGHT INNER REAR MIRROR
AIR CON./TEMPERATURE REGULATION AUTOMATIC AIR CONDITIONNED BI-ZONE
TUNER RADIO DUAL RADIO TUNER
INTERIOR PROTECTION WITHOUT INNER PROTECTION
OBSTACLE DETECTION SYSTEM OBSTACLE DETECTOR
LATERAL BLINDS WITHOUT SIDE BLINDS
INFLATION PRESSURE LOSS INDICATOR TYRE DEFLECTION INDICATOR
TRIM ADAPTATION LEATHER GEAR LEVER KNOB
EQUALISER AMPLIFIER WITHOUT EQUALISER AMPLIFIER
LOCKING CONTROL SIMPLE CENTRAL LOCKING
WINDOW (TYPE) LAM W/SCREEN + SIDE + RR TOUGHENED
STEERING WHEEL LEATHER STEERING WHEEL 3 BRANCHES
FAN 1 ELECTRONIC FAN INTEGRAL CTRL 160W
DRIVER’S KNEE AIRBAG DRIVER’S KNEE AIRBAG

Electrical
ALTERNATOR ALTERNATOR CLASS 18 180 AMP
BATTERY BATTERY L3 450
STARTER MOTOR STARTER MOTOR CLASS 6+
SPECIAL LIGHTING AUTOMATIC HEADLAMP ILLUMINATION
SILL ILLUMINATION LAMP SILL ILLUMINATION
EXT. REARVIEW MIRROR COMP. FUNCTION ELECTRIC FOLDING EXT REAR VIEW MIRROR NO MEMORY
HEADLAMP BULBS DISCHARGE BULB
FOOTWELL LIGHTING WITHOUT DOOR SILL LIGHTING
HEADLAMP HEIGHT ADJUSTER AUTOMATIC HEADLAMP ADJUSTMENT
DIRECTIONAL HEADLAMP WITHOUT DIRECTIONAL LIGHTS
RADIO FREQUENCY WESTERN EUROPE RADIO FREQUENCY

Component manufacturers
INJECTION ASSOCIATED VARIANT SIEMENS ASSEMBLY

Miscellaneous
SPECIAL SPECIFICATION STANDARD
ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS NORMAL ATMOSPHERE
DRIVING POSITION LEFT HAND DRIVE
SURFACE CONDITIONS GOOD TERRAIN
EXTERIOR ACCESSORIES BODY COLOURED EXT HANDLES + EXT MIRROR


Even with the VIN it shows a solenoid valve in the outlet tank on the side of the head, so I assume yours should have one.
Is there a loose plug somewhere in the area if yours does not have this solenoid? Maybe the outlet tank was replaced at some stage with the incorrect one, causing the fault to show in your diagnostic?
 

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I was actually looking to see all my car's details because I am not able to register for service box in website I do not know why! There is no button to register just to connect. I have no access to it.

Yes, it has a solenoid valve along with that tank or body however you call it. The connector is in place I can see that too.

I believe this solenoid went bad and needs replacing but cannot find anywhere in internet to purchase because couple of forums mentioned that PUG had redesigned and completely removed using this valve and needs some mods on hoses and with Diagbox to disable it.
 

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Hi there, can you help me with Service Box to find my PIN Code to be able to reprogram remote key fobs please?

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I was actually looking to see all my car's details because I am not able to register for service box in website I do not know why! There is no button to register just to connect. I have no access to it.

Yes, it has a solenoid valve along with that tank or body however you call it. The connector is in place I can see that too.

I believe this solenoid went bad and needs replacing but cannot find anywhere in internet to purchase because couple of forums mentioned that PUG had redesigned and completely removed using this valve and needs some mods on hoses and with Diagbox to disable it.
You can pick up Servicebox on one of the torrent sites if you don't mind downloading ~10GB. It also has the repair procedures and electrical diagrams(Sedre) too, which you don't get with the online version..
 
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