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My 307 failed its MOT due excessively corroded brake pipes

Put it it the garage yesterday to have them done but they couldn't do it as they didn't have a long enough piece of brake pipe.

I phoned them this morning and said thay are waiting for a special tool to refit the pipes.

Any members out there have any experience of replacing 307 brake pipes to confirm this or are they joshing me? :confused:

Also do you just create new pipes from a reel of brake pipe or do you buy them ready made up?
 

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Thanks Stubbo. I think its the garage then. Seriously loosing faith in them. They've had the car everyday since Tuesday from 7.30 to 16.30 and not managed to do the work. They had started on it yesterday but told me they didn't have enough brake pipe.

I was going to pull the car out of there this morning but they told me that they had already disconnected the pipes and were waiting for a special tool to arrive.
So I'm stuck with them doing the work. Given them a deadline of 1pm today to get it fixed
 
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I'd definately demand a bit of a discount there :thumb:

No way a job like that should take them this long!! :eek:
 

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Went down to the garage and surprise surprise, its not done :mad:

Said one of their mechanics was picking up a puller (tool) to be able to do the pipes. However the car looks like its not been touched since I saw it on the ramp yesterday.

Told them of my frustration and he agreed with me and mentioned discounting the bill by not charging for the MOT (£20). I didn't want to go into bill details until the car is ready and I'm happy with it.

Just feel that they don't know what they are doing and this is going to be the start of whole host of other probs.

Anyway, ringing for an update at 3pm but I just know its not going to be done in which case I've got there Rover 75 for the weekend :nono:

Ironically they are part of the The Good Garage Scheme. Car service, car repairs and car servicing from the Good Garage Scheme.
 
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I got mine done as it had failed it's MOT on brake pipes too. I was charged £45 but they didn't do the whole lot, they cut it where it was corroded and connected it with straight fittings on to the rest of the pipe.

It's because on these cars (not sure about others) the brake pipe is extremely long, and is bent to go from the brakes up over the fuel tank and down the front.

They'll have quoted you for the whole lot, which involves dropping the fuel tank.
 

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Well car's not been done, they were doing it when I rang (thats if they were) but I wasn't going to hang around on chance it would be finished today.
So they've got tomorrow to get it done so won't be Monday till I (hopefully) get it back.

Not sure how much of the pipe they are going to change. Was quoted £114 for the pipes, headlight aim adjustment and 1 track rod end. I intend to argue some serious discount when it comes to it
 

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My 307 failed its MOT due excessively corroded brake pipes

Put it it the garage yesterday to have them done but they couldn't do it as they didn't have a long enough piece of brake pipe.

I phoned them this morning and said thay are waiting for a special tool to refit the pipes.

Any members out there have any experience of replacing 307 brake pipes to confirm this or are they joshing me? :confused:

Also do you just create new pipes from a reel of brake pipe or do you buy them ready made up?
you can do either, ready made or make them
 

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just take them off,walk to your nearest car-shop, he'll make them up for you at a small cost,walk home fit the pipes,bend them into shape(very easy),bleed the brakes.........job done

or do like us and go down the shed,get the flaring tool out and make your own:thumb:
just had to do this on my daughters 106
 

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just take them off,walk to your nearest car-shop, he'll make them up for you at a small cost,walk home fit the pipes,bend them into shape(very easy),bleed the brakes.........job done

or do like us and go down the shed,get the flaring tool out and make your own:thumb:
just had to do this on my daughters 106
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Phoned up garage this morning and was greeted by..... theres a bit of a problem (seems to be their motto)

Told me as the car was left "open", all the brake fluid has drained out and hence may have damaged the master cylinder. They have filled it up and are going to try and bleed again to see if it works. If it doesn't then they will order a new one (at their expence)

So looks like I won't get the car back today and the problem is that the "courtsey car" if you can call it that (A diesel auto Rover 75) is drinking fuel like a fish. And as I live 35 miles away from garage (its where I work) it is also costing me a fortune filling this up.
 

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The garage couldn't get pressure back by bleeding the brakes, so they ordered a new master cylinder to fit today.

Is there a special way to bleed the brakes (apart from the normal furthest wheel from the resovoir to the nearest).

Also does the ABS pump need to be bled? I know this needs to be done on some cars via software diagnostics.

Not sure whats the next step if they can't sort it with the new MC :nono:
 

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Garage replaced the MC and still not working :cursing:
Said they can't get any fluid out when they try and bleed it and didn't seem to have any idea on how to progress with the problem (car was on the ramps with no one looking at it)

So I demanded that they send it to another garage to look at.
Had the cheek to ask me that if they do that will I pay for it...told him no chance

Anyway they phoned a Peugeot dealer & a Peugeot specialist but both couldn't look at it till next week. They managed to get it into another local garage to look at it today and the last I saw of my car was it being driven off down the road with whatever braking power it had :nono:

:help:
 
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Sounds like a rough ride for you,

If we get our good garage/bad garage section running you'll definately have to add these guys!
 

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Got the car back. The 2nd garage have got the brakes working again, enough for it to pass the MOT

However although it brakes ok, after the inital press to stop the car, the pedal slowly goes to the floor if continually pressed which suggests there is still air in the system. Still thinking that the ABS pump needs to be bled.

The garage didn't charge for any of the "work" done and I've got the invoice for the second garage so I'll probably get it redone there or take it a Peugeot Specialist and combine it with the service thats due soon.

Couldn't bear it being incaperable hands anymore :nono:
 

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bah who needs brakes anyways...they just slow you down anyways :rolleyes:

just make a whole in the front footwells and do a fred flintstone and use your feet. :p

anyways on a serious note, im speaking with yung to get this good/bad garage scheme up so users can share there experiance of crappy service.

i hope you get this sorted, i had a similar experiance of an incompetant mech, who claimed to be an ex-peugeot tech, where he messed with my cam belt...cost him £200 out of his wages to get fixed!

i had the luck that the dealership i went to get this sorted, supported me in getting my money back from the garage that caused the problems so they gave me a full tech report with pictures and explainations...the garage caked themselves when i handed it over and demanded a refund to get sorted.
 

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Had to go back to garage this morning to get my locking wheel nut back. Just lucky I checked and didn't get a puncture last night :nono:

According to the invoice I was given, the cost for parts alone was £290. £190 of that was the new MC. Total with labour was £377 which excludes the £66 they paid the other garage to do brake bleed. Although I didn't pay any of that, it cost me enough in fuel in running that so called courtesy car.

Anyway just glad to have the car back, 80% happy with the brakes. Just doesn't have that solid dead stop feel which it used to be like when you press the pedal. But I can live with it till it goes for its next service
 
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