Do you do a lot of short trips with your car? The 12V battery could be low on charge and only properly charges up on long drives.
both key fobs stop working since 1/5/23
Hi guys,
I'm just wondering if anyone had the same issue as me.
I've had the car since dec 2020, and yesterday, around after midday, we were unable to lock the car using the remote key fob.
So I thought the battery went flat on that, so off I went and took the 2nd fob but it was still a no go.
So I thought maybe the battery gone flat on the 2nd one too, so I replaced the battery, checked with my trusty multi meter to ensure that it has the juice, and still a no go.
So the only way for me to enter the car is by using the physical key. Still can drive the car and all that.
But interestingly, once the car is on and while the car is still "awake" even after I turned it off, the remote still works fine.
But after 5 minutes after it went to sleep, the remote stops working again.
and what I realised is that yesterday was the 1st of May, so perhaps the date is set somewhere in the programming? (I don't know, just speculating)
I've called the dealership and the first availability for me is 1st of June, so I'm wondering if anyone had this issue before and if there's a solution that I can try?
Or is the only way is to get it in the garage and get it re-programme? Cheers
I'm just wondering if anyone had the same issue as me.
I've had the car since dec 2020, and yesterday, around after midday, we were unable to lock the car using the remote key fob.
So I thought the battery went flat on that, so off I went and took the 2nd fob but it was still a no go.
So I thought maybe the battery gone flat on the 2nd one too, so I replaced the battery, checked with my trusty multi meter to ensure that it has the juice, and still a no go.
So the only way for me to enter the car is by using the physical key. Still can drive the car and all that.
But interestingly, once the car is on and while the car is still "awake" even after I turned it off, the remote still works fine.
But after 5 minutes after it went to sleep, the remote stops working again.
and what I realised is that yesterday was the 1st of May, so perhaps the date is set somewhere in the programming? (I don't know, just speculating)
I've called the dealership and the first availability for me is 1st of June, so I'm wondering if anyone had this issue before and if there's a solution that I can try?
Or is the only way is to get it in the garage and get it re-programme? Cheers
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I would first try fitting new battery in both fobs. We have to replace fob battery every 6-8 months in wife’s 208 so I’m surprised you have got away with it for so long. Do you have proximity locking (open & go feature). If not then that may be why they have lasted so long. Also when 12 volt battery is a bit low the proximity locking is the first thing to fail, so if you don’t have it this could also be a possibility.Do you do a lot of short trips with your car? The 12V battery could be low on charge and only properly charges up on long drives.
Thanks both, will the 12V be affecting an EV, as this is one. I have the proximity on for pretty much from the start . I've also replaced them batteries.
Do you guys still think it's problem with the 12V?
I do drive shortish distance daily except weekends.
Do you guys still think it's problem with the 12V?
I do drive shortish distance daily except weekends.
No in answer to your first question. In an EV the 12volt battery is charged when the traction battery gets charged so it should always be fully charged unless it is defective.Thanks both, will the 12V be affecting an EV, as this is one. I have the proximity on for pretty much from the start . I've also replaced them batteries.
Do you guys still think it's problem with the 12V?
I do drive shortish distance daily except weekends.
If you have replaced both keyfob batteries and the problem still exists I have no clue as to the cause.
The 12V battery only gets charged by the inverter when the car is running. This inverter does not have a lot of power output so the battery barely gets charged when you do a lot of short trips.
When you unlock your car with the mechanical key, do you have to put your key fob against the reader in the steering column or does the car start up fine without doing that?
When you unlock your car with the mechanical key, do you have to put your key fob against the reader in the steering column or does the car start up fine without doing that?
When my 508 hybrid is plugged and and charging I measure between 14 and 15 volts across both 12 volt batteries. This indicates to me that both are being charged. My ICE engine is not running when I do this.The 12V battery only gets charged by the inverter when the car is running. This inverter does not have a lot of power output so the battery barely gets charged when you do a lot of short trips.
When you unlock your car with the mechanical key, do you have to put your key fob against the reader in the steering column or does the car start up fine without doing that?
Your hybrid might be smart enough to charge the 12V battery while charging the traction battery but fully electric Peugeots lack that intelligence and don't charge the 12V battery while charging the traction battery.
How silly!Your hybrid might be smart enough to charge the 12V battery while charging the traction battery but fully electric Peugeots lack that intelligence and don't charge the 12V battery while charging the traction battery.
I’ll try and confirm this when I take my 508 for a recall on Friday. My wife has a e-208 on order from them too. I won’t expect to get a sensible answer from the salesperson, but I might from their MasterTech. Thanks.
So, is my only solution to take it back to the garage?
I think you have tried the obvious things so unfortunately I think a garage vist is your only course of action. It usually takes a few minutes for the car's computer to shut everything down. The remote entry system is one piece of electronics that needs to stay active when everything else is shut down. It sounds like there is a wiring fault which results in the remote entry system losing power when the rest of the electronics is shut down. Peugeot charge to access their wiring data for later cars so the best course of action is to take the car to a dealer.So, is my only solution to take it back to the garage?
Thanks all. Does anyone know if Peugeot does updates OTA?
This usually happens because of low batteries, but shock can also cause the fob to lose its pairing. Most remotes can be reset, so check your car's user manual for the resetting sequence. If resetting fails to solve the problem, the fob will need to be reprogrammed.Hi guys,
I'm just wondering if anyone had the same issue as me.
I've had the car since dec 2020, and yesterday, around after midday, we were unable to lock the car using the remote key fob.
So I thought the battery went flat on that, so off I went and took the 2nd fob but it was still a no go.
So I thought maybe the battery gone flat on the 2nd one too, so I replaced the battery, checked with my trusty multi meter to ensure that it has the juice, and still a no go.
So the only way for me to enter the car is by using the physical key. Still can drive the car and all that.
But interestingly, once the car is on and while the car is still "awake" even after I turned it off, the remote still works fine.
But after 5 minutes after it went to sleep, the remote stops working again.
and what I realised is that yesterday was the 1st of May, so perhaps the date is set somewhere in the programming? (I don't know, just speculating)
I've called the dealership and the first availability for me is 1st of June, so I'm wondering if anyone had this issue before and if there's a solution that I can try?
Or is the only way is to get it in the garage and get it re-programme? Cheers
The new 308 and 408 are the only ones that are capable of OTA updates. All others require a 32 or 65GB usb stick and a PC program to download and copy to the stick.Thanks all. Does anyone know if Peugeot does updates OTA?
I spoke to the MasterTech at my dealer this morning when dropping my 508 hybrid for recall work. My question was “does the e-208 recharge the 12volt battery when plugged in and charging ?” His answer was “It checks the SOC of the 12 volt battery and charged it depending. They have stopped charging it constantly to save the planet and conserve the battery so checks it first”.How silly!
I’ll try and confirm this when I take my 508 for a recall on Friday. My wife has a e-208 on order from them too. I won’t expect to get a sensible answer from the salesperson, but I might from their MasterTech. Thanks.
Weird. Once, my 12V battery was low on juice before charging, and even lower after charging for 4 hours. If I didn't fully turn on the car, the radio and pretty much everything else almost instantly turned back off to save energy.
Thanks all, the reason why I asked about OTA, is because it has now fixed itself. I didn't do anything and it just all of a sudden work again. Weird huh?
I have had the my e2008 for 2.5 years now and I have not change the battery once in my fob. I don't have open and go but I have been using the same fob since I had the car? I am suprised everyone else needs to change it so oftenI would first try fitting new battery in both fobs. We have to replace fob battery every 6-8 months in wife’s 208 so I’m surprised you have got away with it for so long. Do you have proximity locking (open & go feature). If not then that may be why they have lasted so long. Also when 12 volt battery is a bit low the proximity locking is the first thing to fail, so if you don’t have it this could also be a possibility.
Keyless entry drains the battery more quickly because it is continuously sending out the signal for unlocking the door rather than only sending out a signal when you press a button on the key fob
I’m surprised too, I’ve not replaced them in my 508 either. At first I thought we had purchased low cost batteries and have since replaced them with Duracell (still cheaper than those supplied by Peugeot dealer, you won’t be surprised to hear).I have had the my e2008 for 2.5 years now and I have not change the battery once in my fob. I don't have open and go but I have been using the same fob since I had the car? I am suprised everyone else needs to change it so often
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