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Purchased a Peugeot 308 last year - 2016 model. It has been a year now since i purchased this car. When i purchased the car, the car was serviced by Peugeot.

Now few weeks back, during a hot day when i stepped out, AC didn't work. I mean, it just blew normal air.

Not sure what i should do now ? Should i go for a Peugeot Service or should i go to a private garage for servicing ? I live in London. (If i go for a private garage, how authentic are they ? Will they replace original with duplicates ???!!??)

But I remember some hissing sound from AC during January - February 2020. When i switched on the AC, i would hear a hissing noise.
Please view the video here (or use this link to access the video - Car_AC_Non_Working) which i took then to see what i mean (head phone required to notice the hissing sound between switching on/off the AC. If you have full volume on laptop/tv/mobile, that works as well).
Then after few weeks, the hissing noise stopped. So i didn't bother much and forgot about the AC problem. Now in summer, when i needed the AC most, i can see that the AC is not working. Purchased a car after spending 10k to avoid maintenance and repair costs. Now i have ended up here. Bit frustrating. Worried about costs now.

Any advice on how to go on about this please ?
 

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There was known issues with the earlier 308 T9 aircon condenser units failing.

The R1234YF refrigerant used in the system is also expensive.

Two options depending on your vehicle:

If the car has a full up to date Peugeot service history take it to a Peugeot main dealer for diagnosis as you may get an out of warranty repair contribution.

If you DONT have a full up to date Peugeot service history then take it to an automotive air conditioning specalist for diagnosis & repair.
 

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Aircon condenser failure, need replacment. I had the same situation, same sound...
Sure... Can you please give more information on this ?
When did this issue happen ? Are you from the UK ? And how much did it cost you to fix this issue ? Did you go to Peugeot dealer to a fix or independent dealer ?
 

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There was known issues with the earlier 308 T9 aircon condenser units failing.

The R1234YF refrigerant used in the system is also expensive.

Two options depending on your vehicle:

If the car has a full up to date Peugeot service history take it to a Peugeot main dealer for diagnosis as you may get an out of warranty repair contribution.

If you DONT have a full up to date Peugeot service history then take it to an automotive air conditioning specalist for diagnosis & repair.
Yes, the car full main dealer service history. I haven't even used the car much :mad:. Planning to book a service as the service is due anyways.
 

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It was under warranty after 3 years so I didn't pay a dime. I am from Croatia ;) If you have to pay my suggestion is to go somewhere else because dealers are too expensive.
 

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Diagnosed with a holed condenser last week (2015 vehicle). Quoted £400 to replace and refill by mobile specialist which is probably resonable but I like a challenge and couldnt help thinking 'it couldn't be that difficult'...

So replacement condenser (£60 inc fitting kit), gas (£62) and hose (£17) incoming.

Gas and oil filling specs/volumes downloaded from Hella A/C website. (450g gas, 100ml oil if anyone curious...)

Bumper & condenser removal videos viewed (...in Italian). Hoping will take no longer than a couple of hours (y)

System completely empty so no gas left to remove. No specialist testing kit but I can wield a bottle of soapy water and watch a pressure gauge over time with the best of them 😇

Also looking to protect in future by application of some kind of metal or plastic open mesh behind the grill. Lots of off the shelf protection fittings for other brands but of course not Peugeot...

Happy to document the experience (win, lose or draw) if anyone interested ;)
 

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Forgot to mention PAG oil was £8 for 230mL, make very sure to get correct grade for R1234yf systems. Of course, I will also not be filling to the full 100mL as there will be residual in system especially compressor. Popular opinion seems to suggest top up by around 28-42mL (1.0-1.5 fl oz.) of oil after a condenser replacement. Probably go to higher end of this as 308 condenser includes integrated receiver/dryer so effectively 2 components of the system to compensate for oil loss from.
 

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I had this problem in my 2015 T9. Toke it to a Peugeot dealer without knowing what to expect. According to them, the failure was due to faulty gaskets near the condenser. They replaced all the gaskets and refilled with gas that was lost due to the poor seal. I paid only a couple of € because apparently this was a known fault but my car was already out of warranty.
Everything is working now.
 

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I had this problem in my 2015 T9. Toke it to a Peugeot dealer without knowing what to expect. According to them, the failure was due to faulty gaskets near the condenser. They replaced all the gaskets and refilled with gas that was lost due to the poor seal. I paid only a couple of € because apparently this was a known fault but my car was already out of warranty.
Everything is working now.

Thanks for this... Hopefully i don't get into a costly affair with Peugeot.
 

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Update :

I have left my car for servicing this morning.
Just got a call that my car uses new type of gas and it would cost 200£'s to refill. (I was like wtf :alien: )
I was told it costs them (if i heard it was 199 £'s). To check what the problem with the car AC is, it would still cost 200 £'s. I have asked them to go ahead with this (did i have any other option ??? Actually NO).

I was said i will be called in another one hour to update on how the trouble shooting goes.

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Update :

I have left my car for servicing this morning.
Just got a call that my car uses new type of gas and it would cost 200£'s to refill. (I was like wtf :alien: )
I was told it costs them (if i heard it was 199 £'s). To check what the problem with the car AC is, it would still cost 200 £'s. I have asked them to go ahead with this (did i have any other option ??? Actually NO).

I was said i will be called in another one hour to update on how the trouble shooting goes.

Thanks
Got a call. It appears that - pressure was not holding up. He said some vent has to be checked. It seems there is some plug/vent which is not holding pressure. So that has to be checked.
He asked me - Can you leave the vehicle overnight ?
Do i have an option ??? I said Yes.
I asked him again - Is there a serious problem and is it going to cost too much. Is the condenser alright.
His response was - we haven't yet got to that point.

WTF again. 1 Full day and still sitting in the same place. Presumably car wash and some hoovering inside the car took a day ???? This was supposed to be a main issue that they had to investigate first.
 

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Yep understandable....they will inject an 'ultraviolet' sensative gas/fluid that needs to leak out to idemtify the leak....I would be happy as they are doing a proper job....I've come across some garages that will just top up the gas and send you on your merry way £50 lighter...and you return a month later for another top up..
 

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Yep understandable....they will inject an 'ultraviolet' sensative gas/fluid that needs to leak out to idemtify the leak....I would be happy as they are doing a proper job....I've come across some garages that will just top up the gas and send you on your merry way £50 lighter...and you return a month later for another top up..
Yes - if i would not have reported the AC issue, do you think they would have still identified the issue ??
The main reason for me to go to the service centre at 8 AM was to make sure these are carried out early in the day for me to review the outcome by 2 PM and then decide what to do next ?
The more i think about the costs involved in this, it ticks me off. Hopefully the condenser is in good condition.

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Didn't you ask for a courtesy car?

If I know a dealer visit is gonna be longer then it takes to walk to nearby Morrisons & back for a breakfast then ill ask for a courtesy car.
 

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Didn't you ask for a courtesy car?

If I know a dealer visit is gonna be longer then it takes to walk to nearby Morrisons & back for a breakfast then ill ask for a courtesy car.
Ha ha haaaaaaa... Nope. I didn't ask one and to be honest, i don't need one. My only worry is that nothing serious should come up (iam hopeful) for the vehicle. I don't want to spend. I am already expecting a bill of 700 £'s now.
Enquired the AC gas filling at a reputed dealer and was quoted - roughly 125 (didnt ask if that includes VAT) and it would still be less than the 199.

The authorised service centres are, really a con. I myself wanted to open a independent service centre.
 

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Just to chime in here with my AC issue this week - 308SW went in for its 2nd annual service; the AC had been completely ineffective just recently, so asked them to check. Was initially advised that a re-gas would be £149 - not covered under warranty, as gas may indeed need replacing every 2 years... Hmm, right.

Well, turned out OK. They reported: "Carried out regas and checked for leaks - both filler valves leaking - replaced valves - still leaking. Replaced air con pipes - all OK - regassed system as required." All done under warranty.
So, don't know if this is more evidence that Peugeot AC systems are made of cheese, but I was totally happy with the way this was handled by the dealer. (Roy Tolley of Colchester, as it happens.)
 

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My 308 was re gassed under manufacturer warranty after having a air con pressure sensor replaced - it had failed & was reporting implausible value when the main dealer checked it.
I booked it in as the aircon wasn't performing correctly.
 

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It is quiet surprising. If i remember correctly, I was told 199 was the cost to refill gas. They went on to say that it is usually 220 and he knocked off 20 and that is the best he could do. I have no clue on why the costs would differ between service centres. When i get the bill, i will let you all know.

I did receive a text a bit earlier that the car is ready for collection and that someone will call me later to walk through my bill. I suppose it is not a condenser / major issue as they have not bothered to call me to check if they wanted to replace the condenser as it will be major fix (From fixing AC issue perspective) which involves huge cost.
 
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