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Hi All.

I've just had my 2 rear tyres replaced with Redesteins and one of my front tyres replaced with the spare tyre. (tyre swapped, not wheels)

Also at the same time they did the tracking for me, which incidently was WAAAAY out !!

Once it was all done, got a few yards down the road and the car almost stopped itself and displayed the "car skidding" picture on the dash. I brought the car to a complete stop and then the ASR/ESP message came on the display with a beeping noise and the "ASR/ESP" picture on the dash.

What could have gone wrong??

The car is driving prefectly, not limping along etc - it drives as normal, but constantly displays the errors (display message, beep, picture on dash and flashing ESP button.)

To be fair the garage stayed late and plugged it on to their small diag machine, but no joy. I'll be it taking to my usual chappie who has a better diag machine tomorrow to see if he can reset it.

Has the error been caused by the different rolling height of the new rear tyres? Or is it the tracking?

BTW, there are no connectors loose or broken etc, that was all checked by the garage and myself when on the ramps.


Anybody got any suggestions for me???

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Just an update:

Took it back to the place that did the tyres and tracking as I felt the tracking may have been wrongly done, but that was all ok.

Booked in to a specialist to get it on the diag machine. Gonna cost me £49 + VAT !!!! Ouch ! :(

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alright bigman..

just recieved your email.. sorry for the delay in response.. as I have been away..

right.. the tracking or the tyres have got nothing to do with it..

have you checked the fuses in the engine compartment ?

what is your high and low speed fans like ?

only solution is to find it on PSA OBD2 diag system, DONT go elsewhere as you will just waste money..

let me know once you have checked the above,,

could be a blown fuse, open circuit or problem with the sensors which need replacing after few years anyways so its common..
 

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Hey mate, thanks for checking out the thread.

Fans are kicking in and out fine as they always have done - car temp is perfect as before. (what should I look for on the fans, and how does it relate to the ESP/ASR system?)

All fuses are fine in the engine compartment.

It's going to a peugeot specialist tomorrow to have it plugged in. - We'll see.

It just seemed so coincidental that it happened right after the tracking.

Here's a bit more info on the tracking side of things:

- Since I had the car the steering wheel was pointing to the right when driving straight.

- When they did the tracking (while car was running) they clamped the wheel in the straight position and then did the tracking, which they said was way out.

- Before they did the tracking I took the car for a drive around the estate for the suspension to settle before they did the tracking.

- As soon as I drove it after tracking the ESP system kicked in as though it thought the caar was going in the wrong direction.

I so confused as the car has never showed any such error before and I've been on a 400 mile round trip with my caravan over easter with no issues. Just seems like the tracking has screwed something up.

As I said earlier, the car is still driving as though nothing is wrong. - Just got the warning lights.....

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the fans are on the same circuit as the esp/asr and the anti pollution system. Also if you can hear your high speed fan running then the problem could be an open circuit in your fan resistors, which are situated at the back of the front grill, just behind the peugeot badge.. there is one for high and one for low speed fan.. these resistors are open like a coil and get cruded with limescale and often break resulting in open circuit. The high speed fan should only come on when your aircon is on or when the low speed fan is not working.

what size of alloys have you got? - as 17inch ones have 0.25 allowance anything above that would still pull to left or right.. 16inch have 0.50 to 0.75 allowance so they tend to be ok..

what tracking have you got done and where from? - as 607s need a four wheel tracking done and it costs £99 plus for it to be done properly. with regards to the tyres.. the problem is that you have mixed the tyres.. getting the tracking done is useless if the tyres are not changed..

the dynamics of not only our car but all big saloons cannot be aligned if they dont match. Always change tyres in Pairs. Unlike other smaller cars, the tyres in the rear are as important as the ones in the front for road grip otherwise, the car could roll over or skid from the back. the reason why yours is still pulling because you have different tyres in the front.. and no tracking could improve that...

you are doing the right thing to go to Peugeot.. They will find the root of the problem.. using PSA OBD2 diag..

I hope it helps.. let me know how you get on..
 

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I see.

My aircon is always on and the highspeed fan is kicking in and out too.

I do have the 17s on mine, yes.

They only did tracking on the front, not 4 wheel tracking - could that have caused the issue? It was done by a garage I always use for my tyres - not a peugeot specialist.

Do you think the error will re-occur if the it's cleared from its memory?

Also, should I get the car 4 wheel aligned now? Or wait until I change the fronts to new tyres? (they need doing in the next 2 months or so)

I'm not taking the car to Peugeot mind you - it's a Peugeout Specialist - will that be ok? - his site is here: http://www.citroenpeugeotwales.com/

Thanks for all the info matey - I'm just preying that the reset will work - can't afford to spend much more on this Pug :( ...... :shrug2:


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dont understand why you aircon is on all the time..

it might be worth checking the fan resistors.. I think your low speed fan resistors is showing a open circuit.. you can do this yourself very easy to do and no need to go to the dealers..

the part number for low speed resistor is 1267 A9
the part number for high speed resistor is 1267 A8

If they are broke, I would replace both of them as you would see green limescale built up.. they are easy to change.. simply screw in and screw out..

I would not recommend you wasting the money on tracking just now as you wont acheive anything.. wait till you get new tyres and go the the four wheel tracking..

resetting the code will not help if there is an open circuit.

I would recommend you to go to the Peugeot main dealers.. yes it might cost your £60 to £100 more, but trust me bigman its worth it..
 

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Sorry mate, I meant my aircon is switched on in the car - i.e. I don't turn it off.
So it does it's own thing.

It's booked in with the specialist for this morn - see what he says. Only £35, so I don't mind that as a starter.

I will most likely replace those parts you suggested too - sounds like a plan.

Thanks again matey


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Ok, all sorted now!

They needed to re-calibrate something on the ASR system.

Basically the error that came up was "Steering Wheel alignment sensor" - so I think they needed to re-calibrate that to the steering wheels new position after the tracking was done.

They are a brilliant specialist both head mechanics are ex-head technicians from Peugeot and Citroen and have all the same equipment as the main dealer.

So my mighty 607 powers on once again !! Lol :lol:

Thanks for the help Scot.

I'll be checking out my fan sensors too.


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Im glad its sorted mate.. you are lucky to have good mechanics.. its a bonus..

very strange that the wheel alignment sensor triggered the error.. I have had mine done and never had any problems.. well atleast learnt something new today..

yeah,, if your high speed fans goes on and off often, Its worth checking and replacing both of them.. they are simply screwed on to the chasis with two screws each

good luck...
 

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Just happened to me. Tracking was a mile out after putting new ends on. ESP/ASR fault. I have Planet and re-calibrated the steering. The steering wheel is off centre. This is why it needed to be calibarated and why the fault appears. They weren't careful enough to have the steering wheel dead straight when doing the tracking.
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Thats not quite true in the OPs case the sensor was calibrated correctly but at some point in its life the wheel angle ended up wrong he stated this and the sensor was allowing for this it was probably a gradual shift that the sensor can handle

What happened was the people doing the tracking did the correct thing and centred the steering wheel but once the tracking was set the steering angle needed recalibrated this is only required if the car has ESP not all cars have ESP.

I have had to recalibrate 1 after removing the subframe even though everything went back on exactly the same place !!
 
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