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Hi Guys,

really stuck with this one now, timing slipped and head needed repaired. head back on now with new belts and surprise surprise no start :(

things checked:
car will start on easy start
has crank cam sync
good fuel pressure
wiring from crank sensor checked and crank sensor replaced

still no joy and any ideas would be greatly appreciated because my luck with this car must turn around soon... i hope!! :mad:

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there's not much that'll totally inhibit injection. But knowing that the ECU uses a couple of methods to kill the engine...
Check ALL supplies, actually at the ECU. Recheck there's no earth wires disconnected, likewise that there's no lives and earths swapped anywhere.
I'm wondering if one half of the double-relay isn't pulling in right, as that's one of the engine's turnoff paths.

Bosch or Siemens, btw?

I've had a scan through the old Suzuki diagnostics I have for the RHZ engine, and the only items that can inhibit starting (and should set a code, but no guarantee) are:

injector failure, electrical
crank and cam sensors
rail pressure
and ECU internal failure.

Double check mechanical timing too, regardless of getting sync displayed.
 

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there's not much that'll totally inhibit injection. But knowing that the ECU uses a couple of methods to kill the engine...
Check ALL supplies, actually at the ECU. Recheck there's no earth wires disconnected, likewise that there's no lives and earths swapped anywhere.
I'm wondering if one half of the double-relay isn't pulling in right, as that's one of the engine's turnoff paths.

Bosch or Siemens, btw?

I've had a scan through the old Suzuki diagnostics I have for the RHZ engine, and the only items that can inhibit starting (and should set a code, but no guarantee) are:

injector failure, electrical
crank and cam sensors
rail pressure
and ECU internal failure.

Double check mechanical timing too, regardless of getting sync displayed.
Its bosch. thanks for advice dpmiller
 

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right guys got the car back from the mechanic today. battery is dead so need to take it off and charge it. take it i need to let bsi go to sleep to do this??
 

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From hereon in the soft boot procedure will be described as the '3 Minute Rule'

PROCEDURE FOR BATTERY DIS-CONNECTION (The 3 Minute Rule)
Whenever a vehicle battery has to be dis-connected, switch off all equipment,
interior lights etc, close the doors leaving the drivers window open.
Switch off the ignition and remove the key and any DIAG equipment.

Wait a full 3 minutes before disconnecting the battery.

The BSi must be allowed to go to SLEEP i.e. into "power save mode". Do not
operate any equipment on the vehicle during this time. Remember, even
opening the bonnet will wake the BSi on a vehicle fitted with alarm.

If the battery is under the bonnet, open the bonnet first and leave it up. 807
batteries can be dis-connected through the drivers window, remove floor cover
first. (note, Pics are under the passenger seat)

ALWAYS disconnect any DIAG equipment and do not operate any plips from
other vehicles during the 3 minute waiting period.


PROCEDURE FOR BATTERY RECONNECTION
Unless otherwise instructed by Product Service, you must always
carry out the following procedure, often referred to as a "soft re-boot", to
minimise the possibility of the BSi corrupting its own software when
reconnecting the vehicles battery supply.
Ensure the procedure for battery disconnection has been adhered to and
importantly all BSi functions were switched off with the drivers window left
down.
1: Close all doors
2: Remove ignition key if left in ignition
3: Reconnect battery. DO NOT open any doors
4: Wait 10 seconds
5: Switch on headlights through the drivers window (you will hear a "bong") (note: Snap-on says Side-lights)
6: Switch on ignition then start the vehicle and check system functions

NOTE: Upon reconnection, if any vehicle function controlled by the BSi i.e .
interior light is switched on,the internal operation of the BSi has the potential
to spike or corrupt its configuration and software program......

EDIT: All information has been got from Peugeot Central Forum. However I did follow this when I changed my own battery and nothing seemed to go wrong.
 

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Whenever my car has gone into economy mode, i have just switched the engine on and left it running a few minutes and it returns from economy mode.

If that doesn't work, replace open window to open door. (just make sure its not windy enough for it to close the door)
 
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Whenever my car has gone into economy mode, i have just switched the engine on and left it running a few minutes and it returns from economy mode.

If that doesn't work, replace open window to open door. (just make sure its not windy enough for it to close the door)
Or manually lock the latch with a screwdriver and leave the door open.
 

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okay will do, battery needs changing. then to go from there.

have noticed dash lights are weird, they will all come on again after keys removed and no central locking etc
 

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Just a thought...faulty engine bay fusebox's can cause none start problems.
The newer fuseboxes have the inertia switch built into them..:rolleyes:

In parameter measurements can you see what the injector voltage is...should be around 80 volts..?
A injector leakoff test will also confirm if your getting diesel at the injectors..?
As David asked earlier...whats the rail pressure when cranking..?
Ron.
 
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