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Hi,

Has anyone got any thoughts to why my 1.4 16v 07 207 will not start, its throwing up a Braking System Faulty when I turn the ignition but does not start? Oddly I drove from work 10 miles without an issue about 30mins earlier, parked up (engine off) got the family in the car for some shopping then wouldn't start.

May have to get RAC to come out and diagnose the fault for me, anyone got any thoughts?

Thanks.
 

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after trying to start turn off leaving key in ignition and open the driver’s door, does the car beep to say the key is in the ignition?
 

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Cheers for the reply, its coming up with economy mode and the battery led flashing now, so I am charging the battery currently so cant test your suggestion, are you suspecting the immobiliser?

Will give your suggestion a go tomorrow thou.
 

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economy mode does not stop a car starting and would not stop the beeping sound, all economy mode does is turn power off to certain things to stop the battery going flat, when you try start does the engine turn over and not start or does the engine not turn over
 

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economy mode does not stop a car starting and would not stop the beeping sound, all economy mode does is turn power off to certain things to stop the battery going flat, when you try start does the engine turn over and not start or does the engine not turn over
Popped the battery in and its still saying economy mode active, its a new battery (less than 8mths old) and its been on charge all night.

Intrestingly when I close the drivers door its locking all the doors! Really unsure whats going on with it!

Calling the RAC now.
 

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obviously not reading what i put and not taking any notice of advice given so whats the point in me trying to help!
 

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obviously not reading what i put and not taking any notice of advice given so whats the point in me trying to help!
My bad!

Answer to your question, sometimes it does sometimes it doesnt beep constantly with key in ignition & open door.

Tried bump starting it but it would not start!
 

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you still have not answered all the questions i have asked

if the car beeps to say key is in then its seeing key
if car does not beep then its not seeing the key

i would unplug all wires at the back of the comms unit and then plug them back in (when plugging gray wire back in it should have a bong sound)
also check the wires for breaks when you take them out
 

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you still have not answered all the questions i have asked

if the car beeps to say key is in then its seeing key
if car does not beep then its not seeing the key

i would unplug all wires at the back of the comms unit and then plug them back in (when plugging gray wire back in it should have a bong sound)
also check the wires for breaks when you take them out
Sorry its all a bit crazy here currently.

There are no messages relating to key in ignition when I open the door, infact there is no beeping when open door with key in ignition.

You say cables on comms unit, do you mean the ecu near the battery?

RAC read the codes n it came out referencing oil temp sensor, oil level sensor and intermittent speedo error, nothing ref brakes or battery.

Had it towed to a local auto electrics who should be able to look at it on Monday.

Appreciate the assistance dude!
 

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Sorry its all a bit crazy here currently.

There are no messages relating to key in ignition when I open the door, infact there is no beeping when open door with key in ignition.

You say cables on comms unit, do you mean the ecu near the battery?

RAC read the codes n it came out referencing oil temp sensor, oil level sensor and intermittent speedo error, nothing ref brakes or battery.

Had it towed to a local auto electrics who should be able to look at it on Monday.

Appreciate the assistance dude!
comms unit is the indicator stalk unit and the transponder reader goes through this, the car is not seeing the key so either you have a bad connection or the bsi has lost its setting and needs setting back up
 

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Don't like the effing sound of all this. Just bought a similar model for the missus, these cars seem to always be a worry, please post back how you got on :(
 

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If the battery level drops low enough, trying to start the car will drop the voltage low enough to stop some of the ecu's from working and bring up random error messages. Considering the battery is pretty new and you had to charge it I would suspect the alternator isn't charging - either a faulty alternator, possible bad earth or other wiring fault. ECO mode will disappear as soon as the engine starts running.
 

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comms unit is the indicator stalk unit and the transponder reader goes through this, the car is not seeing the key so either you have a bad connection or the bsi has lost its setting and needs setting back up
Have no means of stripping the car back enough to check the wiring you mention, will of course pass your comments to the other slightly better garage now looking at it.

I fear I will have no car over xmas!!! Im already 100 lighter from garages diagnosing stuff with no result! They all want me to commit to more n more hiurs of labour with hope they find the cause!

Is it worth getting someone with a peugeot planet setup to come out and have a look? If of course the issue is not mechanical?

After this round of diagnostics I feel I have no choice but get it to Peugeot and let them have a body part as payment if they can fix it!
 

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Don't like the effing sound of all this. Just bought a similar model for the missus, these cars seem to always be a worry, please post back how you got on :(
Shall do.

If the battery level drops low enough, trying to start the car will drop the voltage low enough to stop some of the ecu's from working and bring up random error messages. Considering the battery is pretty new and you had to charge it I would suspect the alternator isn't charging - either a faulty alternator, possible bad earth or other wiring fault. ECO mode will disappear as soon as the engine starts running.
Perhaps yes, will pass you advise onto the garage looking at it currently.
 

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After a mammoth amount of f***ing about and having parted with alot of my hard earned cash (thankfully not dealer) I now have the car back. Not sure if it surprising or not to folk on here but the ABS pump had gone faulty, this resulted in the car not starting, once this was replaced the car runs perfect again! :eek: The car has only done 67k and for the ABS pump to fail so early into its life is shocking. The joys of French motoring.
 

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After a mammoth amount of f***ing about and having parted with alot of my hard earned cash (thankfully not dealer) I now have the car back. Not sure if it surprising or not to folk on here but the ABS pump had gone faulty, this resulted in the car not starting, once this was replaced the car runs perfect again! :eek: The car has only done 67k and for the ABS pump to fail so early into its life is shocking. The joys of French motoring.
My first Peugeot was a 55 plate 307 which had 108 thousand on the clock and was six years old when I bought it. No record of any major repair work done and drove like new. The second was an 04 plate 307 which replaced the previous one whech someone kindly wrote off on the motorway. That had 105k on the clock and no record of any major component replacements in the full service history.

I did replace the timing belt because there was no record of it being done and I replaced a failed clutch which wasn't a big surprise considering the mileage. I also had a front spring break, again not a big shock as it was a high mileage car with me adding another 200 miles a week so went the whole hog and replaced both front and rear springs plus rear shock absorbers. The only other major items replaced were rear brake discs but that was simply because I felt they were required even though it had just passed it's MOT with zero advisories.

The point is that Peugeot is no more prone to major failures than any other car company. Just like any other marque, they do produce cars that suffer from a major component failing pramturely BUT Peugeot, like all the other marques buy brake components in from companies that specialise in the manufacturer of these parts. Your ABS pump failed not because it was fitted to a Peugeot or in a French car but simply because it had a manufacturing defect which fell through the quality contol net at the manufacturing plant.
 
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