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Hi I have recently bought a 10 plate 207 sw s and I seem to be having a issue with the car.
Intermittently my side lights on the front come on sometimes they don't and sometimes the drivers side bulb comes on then the passenger side 1 comes on about 30 secs later ( I have changed the bulbs and they are still doing the same thing) and vise versa and occasionally they come on together, when they do eventually light up the passenger side 1 surges now and again.

Since Having had the car (3 weeks ago) I have changed a side light on the back a headlight bulb and 3 sets of front sidelight bulbs I thought it might be a dodgy fuse.

Can someone help please with either some past experience knowledge or has anyone got the engine bay fuse box layout as a computerized file.
 

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Pug 207 side lights not working

This issue is typical french electrical crap.

Side lights not working fails m.o.t.

No fuse for side lights, earth connections ok, bulbs changed, ok
All other lights ok.
What is the damn problem, apart from its french.
 

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This issue is typical french electrical crap.

Side lights not working fails m.o.t.

No fuse for side lights, earth connections ok, bulbs changed, ok
All other lights ok.
What is the damn problem, apart from its french.
I'll tell you the biggest problem with electrics on french cars.

The person working on them doesn't understand electrics and doesn't own or know how to operate a multimeter, so they blame the car...

I've owned and/or worked on cars from all over the world and french ones are no worse than any others, in many cases they're far better in actual fact.

So, before slating an entire nationality and their car industry, visit a library and learn how a circuit works :thumb:
 

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It is correct to say that the sidelights are not protected by fuses. They are controlled by electronic switches in the engine compartment fusebox. One can only assume that these are current limiting by design.

From reading other posts here, it seems that the 207 engine compartment fusebox is vulnerable to water ingress, so I suggest that it the first place to look.
 

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Funny, french electrical issues are far more than others!
I'm guessing from the fact you asked the question that you don't have a huge amount of electrical experience.

What is the basis from which you draw this conclusion? Is it Dave down the pub moaning about 'bloody French cars' or is it internet rumour (ostensibly the same thing)?

The only thing that makes French car electrics harder to work on is that it's usually more difficult to get decent schematics so you have to rely on technical knowledge to troubleshoot stuff the old fashioned way and knowledge is sorely lacking these days...
 

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Ok

Ok, whats the fix?
The amount of french car electrical issues is greater then others based on the knowledge of the 2 garages and the electrical guy with 40 years experience who will be looking at the car later this week. Ill let you know what the issue was.
 

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Ok, whats the fix?
The amount of french car electrical issues is greater then others based on the knowledge of the 2 garages and the electrical guy with 40 years experience who will be looking at the car later this week. Ill let you know what the issue was.
Yeah, and the electrical guy with 30+ years experience who fitted LED indicators to my mate's motorbike and used a pair of incandescent bulbs under the seat wrapped in insulation tape to load the flasher relay and the garage he took it to to investigate the burning smell who couldn't find anything wrong just highlight the 'expert' problem...

Along with the 306 my wife had years ago that we took to a main dealer to see why the central locking was playing up who suggested "it might be an electrical problem" and wanted to randomly replace parts (all billed of course) to try and solve it - once I got my arse in gear it took me under an hour to isolate a failed microswitch in the driver's door lock and replace it for about 20p.

The opinion of a couple of garages and a random electrical 'expert' hold no sway to be honest.

Seeing as the truth has eventually come out in your thread about this problem the fix is obvious - don't bodge in 3rd party equipment without knowing what you're dealing with.

This problem isn't French electrics by a long shot - it's most likely an incompetent insurance fitter who just tapped into the closest live wire without caring or knowing what they were doing.
 

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Pdg?

Ok. So experts are not experts? This is why no problems ever get fixed. Still no answer in your response other than what I already doing? Chill, you rant I stead of write.
 

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Ok. So experts are not experts? This is why no problems ever get fixed. Still no answer in your response other than what I already doing? Chill, you rant I stead of write.
Some experts really are experts, but they are few and far between.

One way to tell a not-expert is if they say something along the lines of "x make/nationality of car is nothing but trouble".

Then, there are specialists who have vast knowledge of a particular manufacturer (or group) and can navigate most others too by applying what they know to different situations.


I can't tell you what your problem is, because I'm not looking at your car. What you describe with the lights isn't a 'common issue' and there is no common answer.

What I can tell you us that I've experience of many problems caused by poorly fitted insurance black boxes, aftermarket alarms, aftermarket stereos etc. - basically kack handed modifications. You can't expect much to work as designed when it's been badly messed with.

I've read your description of what you've done so far and there is no mention of checking for a voltage supply at the bulb holder, no mention of checking wiring for continuity, you said the earths 'look' alright but you don't say whether you've actually verified whether they're alright or not - these are basic first steps in troubleshooting electrical malfunctions, along with removing any modifications.

Thing is, someone modified your electrical system, you didn't check everything worked afterwards and you've not really done any proper checks now that you know there's a problem.

Instead, you blamed an entire country.
 
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