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My Son's 1.1 Peugeot 206 (with A/C) serpentine belt keeps shredding and wondered if anyone else has had the same problem?

My Daughter owned this car from new since 2002 and recently sold this to my Son as a first car. She also had the same problem but not so frequently.

This problem seems to occur every 5 to 6 weeks or so now and it's becoming more, and more of a nuisance. I have replaced this several times now and have used both genuine Peugeot parts, and replacement parts from various part suppliers, but the issue continues.

I have noticed that following replacement and I start the engine, the belt moves over one groove on the steering pump, and it also looks like the pulley's may be misaligned, but I cannot find anyway of adjusting these.

I can also confirm that the pulley's and ancillary associated components all seem to be working fine without any undue wear & tear.

Can anyone please advise?
 

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Are you using a belt with the correct amount of grooves and are all the pulleys the correct amount of grooves.

Has ANY PULLEY pump tensioner a/c clutch or anything to do with the belt been changed other than the belt
 

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Are you using a belt with the correct amount of grooves and are all the pulleys the correct amount of grooves.

Has ANY PULLEY pump tensioner a/c clutch or anything to do with the belt been changed other than the belt
Yes. I can confirm that we are using belts with the correct and matching amount or grooves and nothing else has been replaced/changed
 

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hi...there there must be a pulley out of line/worn on its spindle to make the belt move over 1 groove and shred...I would be getting to the botton of this quick as 5 weeks is no time/mileage for a modern belt...what happened to the first belt?why was it changed(worn/shredded)give us as much info as possible as we are trying to help
 

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hi...there there must be a pulley out of line/worn on its spindle to make the belt move over 1 groove and shred...I would be getting to the botton of this quick as 5 weeks is no time/mileage for a modern belt...what happened to the first belt?why was it changed(worn/shredded)give us as much info as possible as we are trying to help
Hi. When I have had the belts removed I have checked the sideways movement on all ancillary components and there is no obvious lateral movement. When looking from the top of the engine it really looks like the steering pump is set too far back (to the right) thus allowing the belt to 'skip over' one position. This, in turn, is causing the edge of the belt to fray and eventually shred. There is no adjustment with this as far as I can see?

All belts have shredded, it's just that it's happening more frequently now.
 

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hi..it has to be a pulley problem....but you say your daughter had the same problem...from 2002 ??are you sure the pas pump hasnt been replaced?
 

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hi..it has to be a pulley problem....but you say your daughter had the same problem...from 2002 ??are you sure the pas pump hasnt been replaced?
Yes. I was thinking it has to be a pulley issue. I fully know the history of the car and can assure everyone that the PAS, nor any other item has ever been replaced. My Daughter started having the problem a couple of years ago, but this has now got progressively worse.

I've just been thinking about the alternator. This is driven by this belt also I believe? I was just wondering if this could be adjusted?
 

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Check if the alternator has a clutched pulley if they seize they can cause the belt to whip. Does the tensioner kick excessively which is a good sign of clutch pulley failure
 

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Check if the alternator has a clutched pulley if they seize they can cause the belt to whip. Does the tensioner kick excessively which is a good sign of clutch pulley failure
Right. My Son has just been to visit and whilst here I had another look at this issue.

As far as I can tell it looks like the alternator drive pulley isn't clutched and has a standard pulley with grooves. I can also confirm that the belt tensioner doesn't 'kick' excessively when the engine is running

I have used a piece of wood as a 'straight edge', have placed this across the line of all pulley's, and it appears that they are all aligned. It just looks misaligned due to the extra part (I don't know what that is) that juts out on the air con pulley.

I was just wondering, if I purchase another belt and then trim one rib off it all the way around, maybe it will not shred during operation?

May well be worth a try at least?
 

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Is there any particular reason for keep changing the colour of your posts and using that particular font. I find it difficult to read some of the posts as the combination of colour and font for me makes it hard to look at never mind read - I just don't bother trying to read them as it hurts my eyes.
 

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Is there any particular reason for keep changing the colour of your posts and using that particular font. I find it difficult to read some of the posts as the combination of colour and font for me makes it hard to look at never mind read - I just don't bother trying to read them as it hurts my eyes.
Yes. I have always used the same font and continually change colour for every reply. I have done this for as long as I can remember and hasn't caused anyone else to mention it. Why is it difficult to read? I use big fonts and bold colours.
 

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belt trimming isn't ideal but if it works....I think the fault will show up in a big way and the belt will come off and wrap itself round something it shouldn't ,have another opinion from...,perhaps a member close by...but good luck anyway
 

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I too find the colour changes annoying and unnecessary i could see the point to highlight something but not the whole post !

As for trimming the belt why not ask for a belt the correct size with 1 less rib most combinations are available if it is 6pk 1760 for example you just ask for a 5pk 1760
 

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Yes. I have always used the same font and continually change colour for every reply. I have done this for as long as I can remember and hasn't caused anyone else to mention it. Why is it difficult to read? I use big fonts and bold colours.
I have no idea why it hurts my eyes as I'm not an optometrist. As for the font, Comic Sans is generally regarded as one of the worst fonts with descriptions such as...

'Comic Sans MS is a comic book-inspired typeface infamous for its overuse. It is most typically contrasted with Helvetica as a childish font.'

It is not a pleasant font to read and the changing of colours is a pointless exercise. As for bold colours - I'd hardly consider the pale green as being bold. As reliable says, it is annoying and as far as I am concerned, the changing of colours is in line with the description of the font.
 

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Trimming the belt will only add to your problem.
That car should have a 6K belt and if it keeps "jumping a groove" its definitely miss aliened pulleys,but witch one?
If the clutch in the AC pulley was braking up you would hear a racket.I would have a close look at the PAS pump pulley.They are pressed on and I have known some to move.
As for colour ?? wait till the belt shreds and debris wips the cambelt off !!
Then you will see RED.
 

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Just an update, and I'll do it in the standard, most boring colour, just to stop the unnecessary comments.

The correct belt should have 6 ribs (or groves) whichever way you look at it. I couldn't get one the correct length with 5 ribs, so purchased a belt with 6 ribs, one of which I trimmed off all the way around. I works! Up until now anyway.

We have placed a 'straight edge' along the line of all pulley's and everything appears to be aligned correctly. Still don't know why this has occurred but perhaps this will serve to help those who have a similar issue in the future?
 

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Just an update, and I'll do it in the standard, most boring colour, just to stop the unnecessary comments.

The correct belt should have 6 ribs (or groves) whichever way you look at it. I couldn't get one the correct length with 5 ribs, so purchased a belt with 6 ribs, one of which I trimmed off all the way around. I works! Up until now anyway.

We have placed a 'straight edge' along the line of all pulley's and everything appears to be aligned correctly. Still don't know why this has occurred but perhaps this will serve to help those who have a similar issue in the future?

Hi

While I know that it is a hundred years later, did you ever find an actual solution to this problem ?

I am sitting with the same issue . I have replaced the tensioner twice , the power steering pump and the idler pulley and it still runs over 2 teeth immediately.
All brand new parts used.
 

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Hi.

I bought my car (2006 1.6 xt) with a similar problem. The belt jump 3 ribs and then shreds after a few minutes.
I replaced the tentioner as well as the crank pulley and it cept on doing the same..
It looks as if the tentioner (old and new) is pushing the belt outwards, up to the point where the ribs jump off of the next pulley.
I have put a washer between the tentioner body and engine at one of the 3 bolts.
The tentioner is now running slightly scew, but the belt stays on... (5000kms so far)
I would also like to get an answer to this mystery and do a proper repair.

Apparently this started happening after the cambelt has been replaced.
 

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Hi.

I bought my car (2006 1.6 xt) with a similar problem. The belt jump 3 ribs and then shreds after a few minutes.
I replaced the tentioner as well as the crank pulley and it cept on doing the same..
It looks as if the tentioner (old and new) is pushing the belt outwards, up to the point where the ribs jump off of the next pulley.
I have put a washer between the tentioner body and engine at one of the 3 bolts.
The tentioner is now running slightly scew, but the belt stays on... (5000kms so far)
I would also like to get an answer to this mystery and do a proper repair.

Apparently this started happening after the cambelt has been replaced.
I have noticed that there is a lot space between the power steering pump and the actual bracket that it mounts to, which means that the pump can move forward or backwards.
I have a funny feeling that the pump is actually too far forward and that is what is pulling the belt away from the motor.

I am going to try and move the pump back (towards the gearbox) as far as the bracket will allow and see what happens.

I will update you if it has any effect.
 
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