Hello, I need the service manual and tightening torques. Do you have it?

 

Looking for this as well

 

This could be easy way to to check if there is a new or old chain in 1.5 hdi.

• take of black engine cover
• visually check if this part in circle (camshaft cover under black hose) is flat or it has "hump" on that part in circle.

Old camshaft cover is relatively flat (pictures 1 and 2).
New camshaft cover has a little hump there (picture 3).

You can also feel that "hump" by touching that part of camshaft cover, just be careful not to touch hot engine.

 

When your chain snapped did you get any warning signs, eg, rattling, was it on a cold start or during driving etc, has engine being getting noisier prior to snap, was it serviced on time every year

Nox Vidmate VLC​

 

CamShaft - Repair Authorised by Peugeot Warranties -My 3008 currently in the garage with the same issue - Sept 2019 plate GTI Line - 34k miles. Independent and Dealer serviced but out of warranty.
Local dealership Service manager is aware of this fault and informed me of a TSB currently in force. Both he and I contacted Peugeot Customer Service and after jumping through some hoops and collecting missing service docs Peugeot UK have actually authorised a full repair under this TSB doc Phew!!! . Replacement parts have been ordered but awaiting CamShaft Kit and 1 other part. This issue has been "Escalated" so awaiting info from UK Spares as to when the part is available. Let me know if you want more info.

 

Hello please can I have more info out 2019 308 gt line has been in garage since May and they can’t source the part so I’m wanting to go through Peugeot now

 

Repair Authorised by Peugeot Warranties -My 3008 currently in the garage with the same issue - Sept 2019 plate GTI Line - 34k miles. Independent and Dealer serviced but out of warranty.
Local dealership Service manager is aware of this fault and informed me of a TSB currently in force. Both he and I contacted Peugeot Customer Service and after jumping through some hoops and collecting missing service docs Peugeot UK have actually authorised a full repair under this TSB doc Phew!!! . Replacement parts have been ordered but awaiting CamShaft Kit and 1 other part. This issue has been "Escalated" so awaiting info from UK Spares as to when the part is available. Let me know if you want more info.

 

I have just had this issue happen with my Vauxhall Grandland which I believe is also the same engine. October 2018 var with 70k on the clock, camshaft chain snapped on starting - no advanced warning or anything. I’m waiting in Vauxhall to identify what the full extent of the damage is, hopefully today/tomorrow. Did the peugot Dealership offer that there was an TSB or did you have to challenge them?

 

Does anyone know if I can confirm from my VIN number if I have an affected engine?

 

Vauxhall have basically laughed in my face, said it would of been covered up to 5 years but as its past 5 years old (5 years 10 months) then tough luck. They know its an issue, the customer service rep pretty much admitted it, said he has said no to any goodwill contribution to multiple people.

Lesson learnt - never buy a vauxhall.

 

Surprised they laughed in your face as Peugeot (Stelantis) pay the dealership for the repair so they stand to gain. They will lose money if Peugeot don't authorise the repair. 12 months warranty on the parts only!. If it goes again you have to pay for the Labour

 

Settled on a price with the dealership to repair - but PSA have no parts available!!!!!

 

Was told exactly the same thing by PSA and the dealership but after a second call a week later they promised to escalate my "case" number to Priority 1. It took a long time initially to get authority for the repair under warranty but after just 2 weeks of PCS placing the order for the spares I got notification that they would be at the dealership within a few days. This was after initially being told it could take up to 3 months for spares to arrive! Result. Just waiting for a call to pick up the car and receive paperwork. Case still in the hands of PCS until I'm happy with the repair

 

Does the 1.2 puretech berlingo flair petrol engine have the same 7mm chain problem

 

Does the 1.2 puretech

No, it has wet belt problem.

 

Ah, been offered a 1.2 berlingo with only 10k miles at a good price, not so keen now unfortunately?

 

It depends on how good the good price is I suppose!

 

As its only done 10k I'm thinking there's no damage and the belt is still good, is it and expensive job to change the belt and could I learn to DIY frequently??

 

Just own the check tool for the wet belt and make it part of your monthly things to do.

 

Is it a DIY job to change the belt?

 

So, after being passed from pillar to post with Stelantis customer services it looks like Peugeot have accepted that the faulty chain on my 2021 35k mile Partner is in fact covered by their “special warranty” (5years or 100k miles) now I’m just waiting to hear back from the dealer with the response from the warranty team. Fingers crossed for free of charge repair! Strange thing is, the agent I spoke to today couldn’t understand why things have been made so difficult as all dealers have been advised that if a vehicle up to 5 years old and less than 100k miles presents with this issue they simply need to submit a warranty claim with Stelantis and as long as the service intervals have been observed using genuine parts (invoiced) then the warranty team should simply authorise the work.

 

So, after being passed from pillar to post with Stelantis customer services it looks like Peugeot have accepted that the faulty chain on my 2021 35k mile Partner is in fact covered by their “special warranty” (5years or 100k miles) now I’m just waiting to hear back from the dealer with the response from the warranty team. Fingers crossed for free of charge repair! Strange thing is, the agent I spoke to today couldn’t understand why things have been made so difficult as all dealers have been advised that if a vehicle up to 5 years old and less than 100k miles presents with this issue they simply need to submit a warranty claim with Stelantis and as long as the service intervals have been observed using genuine parts (invoiced) then the warranty team should simply authorise the work.

 

The 7mm and 8mm camshaft gear not same right?

 

No, the whole cam cassette and cam shafts are different, Peugeot list them in separate parts but in reality it should be a kit

 

Does anyone have this document mentioned above, "dating from July 2022, the PSA group indicates that this technical failure is theoretically covered at 100% for vehicles less than 5 years old OR less than 150,000 km on the first due date."?

My engine has failed after the chain breaking (peugeot 5008 1.5 blueHDi 130hp) at 106,000km.

Does anyone know if this PSA threshold at 150,000km is valid for the whole EUrope?

 

https://www.peugeotforums.com/posts/2439790/

Please go to link above re Warranty Repair.

 

Is anyone having any luck getting the parts
We are struggling the get the cam shaft cradle is how the garage explained it is. It’s been in the garage since May.
19 plate D 308 gt line 46,000 miles just slowly dying
Paying finance still every month on it still

 

When mine was in for repair back in September/October I was advised by the garage that parts are usually always back order but after PSA agreed to cover it under warranty the parts actually arrived within a few days and I had the van back two days after that. Is the garage your using a Peugeot dealership?

 

So what about cars made before december 2019?(Mine is January 2019) I think my motor still got 7 mm chain...

"All vehicles manufactured since December 31, 2019 may be affected by this manufacturing defect until the end of January 2023"

 

This issue is also applicable for cars in both 2018 and 2019. If you have the 7mm chain it is advisable to make the upgrade to 8mm

 

I have got a Toyota Proace (2019) which got a peugeot 1.5 engine as it is a PSA van.

The camshaft failed and killed the engine. Toyota quoted €10200 for new engine plus labour costs.

Do I have any chance winning by holding Stellanis or Toyota liable through my legal protection insurance for the cost of the new engine, EVEN Though my engine is out of warranty (260k km or 5,5 years old)?

As all the above experiences and that French article indicate, there should have been a recall for this issue or at least a minor mention of it in the maintenance booklet.

 

Stellantis Recalls 636,000 Units Over Diesel Engine - Barron's (assuming this happens, just linking because applicable to the problem)

 

I wonder how a second owner would go about getting this sorted out on the call back, what if they had no service details etc ?

If you had to undertake this yourself what would be the likely cost to have the 8mm upgrade anyone know please.

 

Everyone. It has been a while...

Stellantis Recall.

Personally, I think the extended warranty of 10 years or 240.000 km is the best "good news" if you do not get an upgrade with new 8 mm parts, that is.

That is if you have a timely and fully serviced vehicle - preferably by a dealership.

That warranty might then be voided if the vehicle, after the recall, is not timely and fully serviced and serviced with the proper oil (most likely Total Quartz Ineo RCP 5W30 or similar).

Do not expect to automatically get an 8 mm upgrade. The recall will basically involve some kind of an AI diagnose of the engine sounds. The AI app (not the mechanic) will decide whether the engine is at (high enough) risk of engine havoc.

If the engine sounds exceed the arbitrarily Stellantis threshold - you will likely get an upgrade with new 8 mm parts or maybe just new 7 mm parts. Time will show. Be aware that a replacement with new parts normally voids the normal 5 year warranty of the engine giving you a 1-2 year warranty of the new parts only.

If the engine sounds does not exceed the arbitrarily Stellantis threshold you will most likely "just" get a software update and an oil and oil filter change - most likely an oil change with Total Quartz Ineo RCP 5W30 or similar. Time will show. You will then get an extended warranty of 10 years or 240.000 km as I understand it.

If you have a vehicle with far from pristine service history you might end up struggling to get any of the two proposed solutions.

In that case it is much less parts and labour expensive to replace or upgrade than to REPAIR and upgrade.

Possible routes:

1) Replacing the original 7 mm parts with new 8 mm parts.

2) Replacing the original 7 mm parts with new 7 mm parts and then a continual replacement of these parts every 75.000 km (most engines seem to self destruct around 90-100.000 km, but some as early as 60.000 km). This could be a viable option if you know a good mechanic who has done a couple of these as you should be able to get good offers on 7 mm parts as these will be more or less rendered "obsolete".

Replacing with either 7 mm or 8 mm parts should almost be the same in parts and labour.

7 mm
# new 7 mm chain
# new 7 mm chain tensioner (yellow plastic)
# new 7 mm inlet camshaft
# new 7 mm outlet camshaft
# new camshaft bolt
# new camshaft oil seal
# new gaskets

8 mm
# new 8 mm Cam Cover (the 480 cam cover)
# new 8 mm chain
# new 8 mm chain tensioner (black plastic)
# new 8mm inlet camshaft
# new 8 mm outlet camshaft
# new camshaft bolt
# new camshaft oil seal
# new gaskets

A repair will involve many more parts or even a new engine.

Be aware that most of these 7 and 8 mm parts are NOT interchangeable and that you will find sellers online trying to get rid of 7 mm parts as part of "Upgrade Kits".

You will find extensive information here

BG Automotive - DV5 Repair and Upgrade

And yes, the engine oil recommendation confusion will then be back again.

Stellantis has been changing the engine oil recommendation in order to mitigate the engine issues.

DV5's made until february 2023
From
# PSA B51 2312 (0W30 - API SN+ / ACEA C2) [Total Quartz Ineo First 0W30)
# PSA B51 2010 (0W20 - API SN+ / ACEA C5) [Total Quartz Ineo Xtra First 0W20]
To
# Stellantis FPW9.55535/03 (5W30 - API SN+ / ACEA C3) [Total Quartz Ineo RCP 5W30]

DV5's made from february 2023
# PSA B51 2010 (0W20 - API SN+ / ACEA C5) [Total Quartz Ineo Xtra First 0W20]

So, with an upgrade to 8 mm parts the engine oil should then be the 0W20 stuff? Time will show.

 

Everyone. It has been a while...

Stellantis Recall.

Personally, I think the extended warranty of 10 years or 240.000 km is the best "good news".

That is if you have a timely and fully serviced vehicle - preferably serviced by a dealership.

Do not expect to automatically get an 8 mm upgrade. The recall will basically involve some kind of an AI diagnose of the engine sounds. The AI app (not the mechanic) will decide whether the engine is at (high enough) risk of engine havoc.

If the engine sounds exceed the arbitrarily Stellantis threshold - you will likely get new 7 mm parts or an upgrade with 8 mm parts. Time will show.

If the engine sounds does not exceed the arbitrarily Stellantis threshold you will most likely "just" get a software update and an oil and oil filter change.

If you have a vehicle with far from pristine service history you might end up struggling.

In that case it is much less parts and labour expensive to replace or upgrade than to repair and upgrade.

Possible routes:

1) Replacing the original 7 mm parts with new 8 mm parts.

2) Replacing the original 7 mm parts with new 7 mm parts and then a continual replacement of these parts every 75.000 km (most engines seem to self destruct around 90-100.000 km, but some as early as 60.000 km). This could be a viable option if you know a good mechanic who has done a couple of these as you should be able to get good offers on 7 mm parts as these will be more or less rendered "obsolete".

Replacing with either 7 mm or 8 mm parts should almost be the same in parts and labour. Replacing with 8 mm parts is almost similar (parts wise) as replacing with 7 mm parts

7 mm
# new 7 mm chain
# new 7 mm chain tensioner (yellow plastic)
# new inlet camshaft
# new outlet camshaft
# new camshaft bolt
# new camshaft oil seal
# new gaskets

8 mm
# new Cam Cover (the 480 cam cover)
# new 7 mm chain
# new 7 mm chain tensioner (black plastic)
# new inlet camshaft
# new outlet camshaft
# new camshaft bolt
# new camshaft oil seal
# new gaskets

A repair will involve many more parts or even a new engine.

Be aware that these 7 and 8 mm parts are NOT interchangeable and that you will find sellers online that try to get rid of 7 mm parts as part as "Upgrade Kits".

You will find extensive information here

BG Automotive - DV5 Repair and Upgrade

And yes, the engine oil recommendation confusion will then be back again.

Stellantis has been changing the engine oil recommendation in order to mitigate the engine issues - better lubrication but worse mileage and "green imprint"?

DV5's made until february 2023
From
# PSA B51 2312 (0W30 - API SN+ / ACEA C2) [Total Quartz Ineo First 0W30)
# PSA B51 2010 (0W20 - API SN+ / ACEA C5) [Total Quartz Ineo Xtra First 0W20]
To
# Stellantis FPW9.55535/03 (5W30 - API SN+ / ACEA C3) [Total Quartz Ineo RCP 5W30]

DV5's made from february 2023
# PSA B51 2010 (0W20 - API SN+ / ACEA C5) [Total Quartz Ineo Xtra First 0W20]

So, with an upgrade to 8 mm parts the engine oil should then be the 0W20 stuff?

Hi RifterRafter.
Thank you for posting this up, now to find out how I/we go about contacting the main dealers whom are going to do this test. Wolves area.