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Old 19-12-13, 01:26 PM   #1
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well, [I]'m supposed to be a clutch specialist! I'm having a major problem with the bearing on a 2.0hdi with a pull type clutch. I'm very familiar with the way these work and have installed quite a few. The new LUK kit which has been supplied (twice) appears to have a bearing which is made out of cardboard.when you try and engage the bearing with the cover it falls apart. Pulling the gearbox back out I managed to lever the bearing into the cover by using two levers against the back of the actual bearing. Unfortunately this lasted the customer half a day. I have inspected the vehicle and by shining a light past the clutch forkI can see that the carrier has spun off the arms of the fork. I had checked the fork(twice) to make sure it was not damaged. The original bearing carrier was still secure when I removed it at the start(it was the actual bearing that had worn out) ECP tell me that this clutch kit superseeds the original which is no longer available. They do not list a Valeo for this vehicle. Suggestionson a postcard please!
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Old 19-12-13, 06:37 PM   #2
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We had problems with bearings failing with cheaper clutches we bought valeo bearings on their own this cured it they seem to be better made and a tighter fit its usually the metal clip that fails not the bearing itself

You can reset the clip on the bearing its fiddly but can be done and be sure its central before forcing it into the cover I used a big lever to click it in
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IS this the box where you need a tool to extract the fork shaft.
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pull push system i use a big bar to get the bearing off the fork ,and put new back on bye pressing the clutch pedal when the box is back in bolted to engine
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IS this the box where you need a tool to extract the fork shaft.
No special tools are required. The normal method is to locate the bearing on the fork, replace the gearbox then lever the clutch arm in the opposite direction till you hear it click into place. What happened with thes new LUK bearings is when you try to lever the arm back the clips come adrift. Although I managed to use to long levers to engage the bearing the second time this still didn't last. Finally I sourced another clutch make of clutch kit which worked properly. A cheap patterned part succeeded where LUK failed. Subsequently I managed to cross reference Valeo numbers and discovered that the kit that ECP list as a dmf/solid replacement one is actually the same for the original solid flywheel. I often use LUK clutches on various cars but never again on this type of clutch.
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You have stated the problem - ECP shit parts at low prices..

Goa I know on an 806 we used a tool to retracted the fork rod so you can get the gearbox off easily.
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You have stated the problem - ECP shit parts at low prices..

Goa I know on an 806 we used a tool to retracted the fork rod so you can get the gearbox off easily.
Never knew such a tool existed, normally just pull the box out! My post wasn't really a criticism of ECP, but of the quality of bearing LUK have used, it really is rubbish on this model. In the end we used a local motor factors and asked for any make other than LUK. They supplied a National Auto Parts clutch, which is of course a patterned part of variable quality. In this case however, not only did it have a sturdy bearing, it even contained special instructions for those unfamiliar with the setup
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Old 26-12-13, 10:08 PM   #8
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I usually go for a Peugeot kit these days. Has good warranty with it which covers labour.

Totally agree with variable quaility of aftermarket parts. Had quite a few lately which have been garbage. I think Blueprint stuff is overrated
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I usually go for a Peugeot kit these days. Has good warranty with it which covers labour.

Totally agree with variable quaility of aftermarket parts. Had quite a few lately which have been garbage. I think Blueprint stuff is overrated
peugeot kits are made by Valeo. My problem was I did'dt have a valeo reference which I do now, so in future I will be able to make sure I get a Valeo kit. Luk supply BMW, Ford and many others as o.e., but in this case the bearing supplied is very poor.
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