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Old 22-01-13, 08:08 PM   #1
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I see that Cameron is making further cuts to our armed forces, whilst at the same time assuring joe public that these cuts will not impact upon their operational efficiency. I somehow doubt the logic there.

Someone should point out to Dave that their role is to protect us from bad people -and they're not getting fewer in number - the last thing we should cut is our defences.

A bloody insult to those serving their county.

He needs to think again.
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Lets cut the starting wage for MPs to 19,000. After all, they expect others to work for that, even though the national average wage for dustmen (unskilled and short hours) is almost 29,000.
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More and more people are getting on board with the Fortress Britain idea. We're an island, which should be fairly easy to protect.

Combine that with not sticking our noses into the affairs of other countries and you suddenly don't need such a massive army.
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The problem then arises when other countries start poking their nose into our business, like Argentina did. Wind levels back too far and the greasers will be after the Falklands again, the Spaniards will try for Gibraltar. Defence is our first priority but we still need to be able to project our political will anywhere on the planet or every dago, terrorist and goat herder will be trying for a piece of us.

Interestingly, Austria has just voted to retain national service by quite a majority. Bring that here, sort youth employment, cut crime, and reduce immigration as no one from, say, Romania will want to come here knowing theyve got 2 years national service ahead if they want to live here.

Bin the EU entirely and hats a source of outgoing we'll save on. We find the EU to a much higher level than we are able to dip into it. The majority of countries in the world, including the planets biggest and most vibrant economies, are not on the EU a others is no impediment to doing business if we bin it.
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After this Algerian hostage business I was quite shocked to hear Cameron say that this would be a war that would take decades to sort.

That's an amazing piece of insight into a war that hasn't even begun.
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Gibbers - I see what you mean by concentrating on protecting our shores - yes it will be cheaper.

But countries have taken that approach before - not getting involved if they can help it. Prime example Nazi scum Germany - if others had become involved at an earlier stage the good guys might have been able to contain the bad guys. Bomb the factories before the tanks roll off the production line so to speak. If there is a threat, it needs to be contained before it gets out of hand.

An insular approach doesn't work in the long run - sometimes you have to act early and on foreign shores.
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If there is a threat, it needs to be contained before it gets out of hand.
But who determines that threat? It seems no lessons have been learned from the "sexed up" dossier of WMDs.

Iran and Syria have caused the UK no bother, but there seems to be pressure to deal with them before they become a problem, and now Algeria - all because of one incident.

And it doesn't matter how many bombs or troops you throw at them if they can get on board a bus in London and blow it up. That's a war you can't win with a million troops and the best equipment in the world.
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Abyssinia Crisis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

History GCSE. the lack of action by the UK, league of nations fed into the cause and effect of WWII. they all did nothing about the abyssinia crisis. Italy sent in troops with flamethrowers to settle an old score. Burning villagers, men, women, children to death. Mussolini took the lack of action on our part as a sign that we had no will, or balls to take him on. So he joined up with Adolf.

Also, leading up to WWII. The gov of the day, did not want to fund the spitfire. Saying it was not needed, and too expensive.

We do not live in a fair world. It does not matter how civilised we think we are, and don't need an army etc. You do, and you have to use it, or be able to use it. That's not going to happen if it's gone.
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