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Old 06-06-17, 07:38 PM   #1
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Having got shot of my 207 last September to buy a Ford Focus I can honestly say the Focus wins hands down compared to the French rubbish with all its inherent problems. Fix Or Replace Daily I have found to be a myth.
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I would have to agree the focus is a very good car but there is good reason for that its really a mazda japs do cars best
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Heavens knows lately I've had my share of age related failures on my 406 but I still find the ride comfort superior to the harsher riding and noisier Fords. Likewise I avoid all the German builds due to their harsh ride. When I swap this out I'll likely go (back) to a Honda Accord Estate, making this an all Honda household.
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Is it a 2.0L Diesel?
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Well, I've had my 207 (1.6 HDI) for 6 years now, done 96,000 miles in it during that time & only failure was an exhaust bracket cracked - 10 of welding down local garage, fixed. Otherwise, bullet-proof
Fords: by the time you find a trim level at French equipment levels they don't look so cheap.
Look at sites that show warranty claim levels and Fords don't look too clever.
But, you can't generalise over one person's experience with one car?
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I would have to agree the focus is a very good car but there is good reason for that its really a mazda japs do cars best
Now are you sure the ford is a Mazda in disguise?

Seeing as the "Ford C1 platform" is the basis for both cars I would recon that the Mazda is the real mimic.

I may well be wrong but to my understanding there are several jap cars that use the ford platforms and just pop their own body panels and sometimes engines on/in, like the Honda and Mazda suvs were Kuga underneath don't know if they still are though and even the Jaguar is a Mondeo with tweaks.
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Now are you sure the ford is a Mazda in disguise?

Seeing as the "Ford C1 platform" is the basis for both cars I would recon that the Mazda is the real mimic.

I may well be wrong but to my understanding there are several jap cars that use the ford platforms and just pop their own body panels and sometimes engines on/in, like the Honda and Mazda suvs were Kuga underneath don't know if they still are though and even the Jaguar is a Mondeo with tweaks.
The Focus is a tidied up version of the Ford Laser, built in Japan
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Can't comment about the current range of focus but 10 years ago, my experience of them from several new hire cars was they weren't fit for the road. Circumstances meant I had use of around eight of them from different hire companies and everyone of them was like driving a roller coaster down a vertical drop with no brakes. My first six cars were fords and I worked in a ford garage. At the time I wouldn't buy anything else but now I wouldn't have one given to me thanks to my focus experiences.
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Former member pr1vatepiles has a new one. Its nice, lovely interior, lots of toys.

But its had a few weeks in the garage for air con faults and paintwork problem - bird muck seems to strip the paint and it has to be washed off immediately.

Its not fair to compare a Focus with a 207 though - they're not like for like and the latter does have known issues.

And, depending which year Focus you're talking about, some older ones (around 2008) are notoriously unreliable and fragile, especially the turbo. See the Honest John forums for loads of people with problems.
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Ford and mazda have been sharing things for much longer than most people realise the ford ranger is a mazda the fiesta and mazda 2 are the same car the mazda 6 is a mondeo

My mazda bongo had a ford brother called a freda

The C1 platform is also used by volvo for the v40 using a peugeot engine in diesel form !!

Ford use peugeot engines in various models as do mazda

The ford probe is a mazda mx something or other !!

Fordies will argue that the mazda is a ford clone but i personally believe the focus is a mazda clone and that is the only reason they drive well BUT i still prefer my renaults
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