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Old 18-12-11, 05:52 PM   #1
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Default Urgent 807 gearbox filler level please?

Hello

Have just bought a late 2006 807 SE diesel, manual gearbox, 2 litre, 136 BHP and 24,000 miles, UK car.

Car was serviced at 19,500 miles so a way to go before the next service is due.

To complicate matters a little we are at the moment in France at our holiday home, but return home (UK) on Wednesday.

I used to mechanic until about 15 years ago so it's all different now.

Because I was always told to change diesel oil on a regular basis and having just bought the car I decided to change the engine oil and filter now so that I know what's in it and an oil change never did a diesel any harm.

As I was laying under the car looking at the engine drain plug saw a drain plug on the diff housing too. It had a little oil at the plug to diff copper washer joint which I thought was odd having read it is a sealed for life box and not too many miles.

Touched the drain plus and it mover ever so slightly! I then tried to turn it and to my horror it started to do up, but only say an 1/8 of a turn. I then tried to unscrew the plug and unscrew it did. Sat looking around the plug area and saw oil traces away from the plug in a couple of places.

It then occurred that having driven 650 miles hereat 80 mph what would happen if the plug unscrewed completely, but that didn't bear thinking about.

So, unscrewed the plug completely and at the last turn sure enough oil started to come out, and it smelt like gear oil too.

I don't have a workshop manual on this vehicle and on a quick look in the now getting dark I couldn't see either a dip stick or a filling/level plug.

My main questions are - can anyone describe where the gearbox dipstick/filler/level plug is please?

What oil is used in this gearbox?

As a secondary question, and I feel stupid asking this, where is the engine oil filter. My guess is under a plastic shield? that is a close fit to the sump? That's not the main under-tray plastic shield.

Very, very sorry to write so much, but with Xmas arriving soon it gets more difficult to get something done, and we return to the UK in 3 days time too.

Thanks for any help at all

Jamie
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Old 18-12-11, 06:45 PM   #2
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can you post your vin and i'll look on servicebox for you
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Thanks trem1, that's very kind.

VIN removed

That's a lot of data isn't it and yes I understand about speedo drive, have to do that with our Fiat van.

Just thought there may be a better easier way or even a dipstick as i would really like to know where the level is at the moment so I can guage whether to be happy or upset and soon to be poor.

Problem we have is 40km away from nearest large source of vehicle parts (specialised gear oil?) and don't really want to drive that there and back unless I know there's enough gear oil. It's our only vehicle here and no public transport, with cattle for neighbours...

Thank you very much indeed

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Old 18-12-11, 07:01 PM   #4
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firstly you may want to delete your vin now
secondly ive * the last 3 of your engine number
third heres your cars info from servicebox, i cant immedatly find the filler plug but ill keep looking for you. I normally just take the speedo drive out





Vehicle characteristics

Vehicle family 807
Build code 10843 U9 1 0296
Warranty Start Date 27/09/2006
Engine serial number 10 DYUW 4001***
Gearbox serial number 20 MB12 0095344
BER e2*98/14*0253*14
General information
PRODUCT TYPE CAR
COMMERCIAL MARQUE/COMPONENT TYPE PEUGEOT
VEHICLE FAMILY 807
SILHOUETTE FAMILY SALOON
TRIM LEVEL HIGH MEDIUM
ENGINE DIESEL TURBO DW10BTED4
TRANSMISSION BVM6
PAINT TYPE METALLIC PAINTWORK
BODY COLOUR EZR - PAINT ALUMINIUM GREY
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE FANGORN CLOTH + FLECKED "N2"
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR "FT"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) BVM ML6 CL
ENGINE (TYPE) EW/DW
OTHER BADGE HDI
BADGE SE
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TRIM LEVEL HIGH MEDIUM
PAINT TYPE METALLIC PAINTWORK
BODY COLOUR EZR - PAINT ALUMINIUM GREY
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE FANGORN CLOTH + FLECKED "N2"
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR "FT"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) BVM ML6 CL
STEERING VARIABLE POWER STEERING
SPEEDOMETER DRIVE W/O TACHO TORQUE
Fuel supply-Engine
ENGINE DIESEL TURBO DW10BTED4
DIESEL FILTER WATER DETECTOR WITHOUT DIESEL FILTER WATER DETECTOR
FUEL DIESEL FUEL
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EXHAUST TRANSVERSE REAR SILENCER
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COOLING MOTOR RADIATOR TH : 32 - 21 DM2 BRAZED ALUMINIUM
CRANKCASE GAS CIRCUIT HEATING W/O HEATER CASING GAS CIRCUIT
VEHICLE TECHNICAL DEPOLLUTION L5 VEHICLE TECHNICAL DEPOLLUTION
PARTICLE FILTER PARTICLE FILTER
FAN 2 300W + 460W 3-SPEED FANS
FUEL VAPOUR RETRIEVAL WITHOUT PETROL VAPOUR RECUPERATION
INJECTION ASSOCIATED VARIANT SIEMENS ASSEMBLY
TANK FILTER RESERVOIR FILTER INTERIOR
THROTTLE HOUSING (ENGINE INLET AIR CIRCUIT) WITHOUT THROTTLE HOUSING (INTAKE AIR ENGINE)
Gearbox Transmission
TRANSMISSION BVM6
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) BVM ML6 CL
FINAL DRIVE RATIO REAR AXLE HYPOID GEARSET 15 X 67
SPEEDOMETER DRIVE W/O TACHO TORQUE
WHEEL STYLE 16" HADES ALLOY WHEEL
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TYRE (SIZE, TYPE) 215X60X16 H TYRES
WHEELS FITTED 7" RIM ROAD WHEELS
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INFLATION PRESSURE LOSS INDICATOR TYRE DEFLECTION INDICATOR
GEARBOX TYPE ML6C
Suspension-Steering-Brakes
ABS WITH ABS BRAKES
STEERING VARIABLE POWER STEERING
DYNAMIC STABILITY CONTROL SYSTEM ELECTRONIC STABILITY PROGRAM
STEERING (OPERATION) ASSISTED ELECTROHYDRAULIC STEERING
Body fittings
TOWBAR WITHOUT TOWBAR
AERIAL INTEGRAL AERIAL
WHEEL EMBELLISHER (STYLE) HADES WHEEL TRIM
TINTED WINDOW GREEN GLASS
SILL ILLUMINATION LAMP SILL ILLUMINATION
EXT. REARVIEW MIRROR COMP. FUNCTION EXT MIRROR ELECTRIC-FOLD BACK
WINDSCREEN WIPER FRONT WIPER BLADE W/O RAIN SENSOR
HEADLAMP WIPER W/O HEADLAMP WIPER
FRONT PANEL BLANK WITHOUT FRONT BUMPER PLUG
LUGGAGE RACK FITTING WITH TRANSVERSE ROOF BARS
FRONT FOGLAMP FRONT FOG LIGHTS
EXTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR (DRIVER SIDE) DRIV EXT RRVW MIRROR NON HEAT ELEC CONTR
SPARE WHEEL STEEL WHEEL + STANDARD TYRE
SUN ROOF FIXED ROOF
BUMPER TRIM BODY COLOUR BUMPER STRIP
GLASS (APPEARANCE) TINTED + OVER-TINTED REAR
REAR QUARTER WINDOW (TYPE) PIVOTING REAR QTR GLASS
WINDOW (TYPE) ATHERMAL WINDSCREEN
Interior fittings
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE FANGORN CLOTH + FLECKED "N2"
ANTI-THEFT ALARM ALARM ULTRASONIC+PERIMETER STD
REAR HEAD RESTRAINT REMOVABLE AND ADJUSTABLE REAR HEAD REST
REAR SEAT 3 PLACES SEPARATE REAR SEATS
SUPPLEMENTARY SEAT 2 PLACES SUPPLEMENT SEPAR SEATS
LUGGAGE COVER SHELF
FRONT SEATBELT RETRACTOR ALARM DRIVER + PASS S/BELT
CLIMATE (AMBIENT TEMP) TEMPERATE COUNTRIES
SPEED GRADUATIONS GRADUATION MPH
GRAB HANDLES FRONT + REAR + ADDITIONAL HANDLES + HOOKS
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WORK TABLE WITH WORK TABLE
INSTRUMENT PANEL (CHARACTERISTICS) 220 KMH OR 140 MPH GRADUATION WHITE DIAL BACKGROUD
ADDITIONAL BLOWER WITH ADDITIONAL PULSE
SIDE DOOR CONTROL MECHANISM MOTORIZED, ELECTRIC LOCKING SIDE DOOR
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COMPACT DISC WITHOUT COMPACT DISC
SATELLITE NAVIGATION SYSTEM WITHOUT NAVIGATION SYSTEM
HEADLAMP BULBS HALOGEN BULB
REAR WINDOW LIFT SEQENT CONTR RR WINDOW LIFTER
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DISPLAY DISPLAY (RADIO+CLOCK AND OR TEMP, CD)
COURTESY MIRROR DRIVER+PASSENGER WITH LIGHTING
HEATING ELEMENT NON HEATED SEAT
FRONT LATERAL AIRBAG SINGLE FRONT SIDE AIRBAG
PASSENGER AIRBAG PASSENGER AIRBAG
HEATING DUCT HEATING DUCT FRONT + REAR
HEADLAMP HEIGHT ADJUSTER REMOTE MANUAL HEADLAMP ADJUSTMENT
RADIO RECEIVER "RD4/MP3" RDS COMPACT DISC AUDIO SYSTEM
REFRIGERATION AUTOMATIC AIR CONDITIONING
CRUISE CONTROL REGULATOR OR SPEED LIMIT
DRIVERíS SEAT HEIGHT CONTROL PARALLEL DRV HEIGHT ADJ
INTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR DAY -NIGHT INNER REAR MIRROR
LOAD SPACE STORAGE WITH BOOT TIDY
CARPET F470 UNITED SQUARE TUFTED CARPET
INTERIOR PROTECTION W/O PROTECTING NET
SWITCH ELECTRONIC ANTI-THEFT KEY
OBSTACLE DETECTION SYSTEM WITHOUT OBSTACLE DETECTOR
LATERAL BLINDS SIDE BLINDS "ROWS 2 AND 3"
INFLATION PRESSURE LOSS INDICATOR TYRE DEFLECTION INDICATOR
FLOOR MAT FR + RR MATS
EQUALISER AMPLIFIER WITHOUT EQUALISER AMPLIFIER
LOCKING CONTROL 2-PUSH DEADLOCKING
REAR QUARTER WINDOW (TYPE) PIVOTING REAR QTR GLASS
WINDOW (TYPE) ATHERMAL WINDSCREEN
STEERING WHEEL RUBBER STEERING WHEEL
STORAGE SPACE LOCKS LOCKING GLOVEBOX
FAN 2 300W + 460W 3-SPEED FANS
DRIVERíS KNEE AIRBAG WITHOUT DRIVERíS KNEE AIRBAG
REAR VIDEO SCREEN WITHOUT REAR VIDEO SCREEN
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ALTERNATOR ALTERNATOR 150 AMP
BATTERY BATTERY L3 500
STARTER MOTOR STARTER MOTOR CLASS 6+
SPECIAL LIGHTING WITHOUT PARTICULAR LIGHT
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SILL ILLUMINATION LAMP SILL ILLUMINATION
EXT. REARVIEW MIRROR COMP. FUNCTION EXT MIRROR ELECTRIC-FOLD BACK
HEADLAMP BULBS HALOGEN BULB
MULTIPLEXING MULTIPLEXING ASSEMBLY CAN CAN
FRONT FOGLAMP FRONT FOG LIGHTS
HEADLAMP HEIGHT ADJUSTER REMOTE MANUAL HEADLAMP ADJUSTMENT
Component manufacturers
INJECTION ASSOCIATED VARIANT SIEMENS ASSEMBLY
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ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS NORMAL ATMOSPHERE
DRIVING POSITION RIGHT HAND DRIVE
VIN PLATE EUROPEAN UNION CONSTRUCTORíS PLATE + NRE
RADIO HEADPHONE SOCKET SINGLE ACCESSORY SOCKET
SET OF KEYS 2 HF PLIP KEYS
COUNTRY ADAPTATION WITHOUT ADAPTATION COUNTRY
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Old 18-12-11, 10:11 PM   #5
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Just as a rider to this thread, does nybody know which oil is used for this manual gearbox?
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Old 19-12-11, 04:16 PM   #6
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Thank you I had tried that earlier as it's mentioned in the handbook.

It only states that the gear oil will never need changing but the level should be checked?

As there isn't a filler plug it's a case of empty and put the correct amount back in.

Phoned a friend from way back who has an MoT businiess and a program on his computer of where and what to do for servicing various vehicles.

He came up with the exact position of the drain plug and an approximation of the fliing point.
Drain plug is on the base of the diff and the filling point at the top of the gearbox housing, through either the reverse lamp switch or the gearbox breather which are sited close to one another.

His recommendation for oil was 78W-80 mineral oil which appeared to him to be old fashioned for a recent design of gearbox.

Then phoned another mate from way back who is the manager of a motor factor, he checked all his sources and agreed the gear oil is 75W - 80 mineral and made the same comment about surprised it wasn't synthetic.

I now have 1 day to decide on whether to risk driving to the nearest large town to collect some oil or to get a very expensive taxi for a return and wait trip.

If there is any other info out there would really appreciate to know, and thank you again trem1 for taking the time.
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The gear oil problem is now resolved.

A neighbour pointed out that there was a Peugeot dealer (Agent) 14 kms away, so promptly phoned them and they immediately agreed to look at the gearbox oil next day at an appointed time.

Took it in and they drained the gearbox while I stood and watched, huge sigh of relief to see just any gear oil coming out, and at a guess it was more than 1.5 ltrs, so a potential massive disaster avoided.

The boss asked if we had things to do in the village or round about and there was a red car outside for our use to get back to the village, please take it and come back in 30 minutes.

They refilled with new oil (Peugeot do list the mineral 75W-80 as correct) with the upshot being a slightly lighter gearbox on the return trip to our house and better engagement of reverse.

A little info for you Peugeot people. The oil was 7.86 euros per litre and the labour rate 42.00 euros per hour, both plus tax.

The garage charged a half hour which surprised me as they spent at least 45 minutes on it including a road test, is it practice in the UK to charge for less than an hour?
They also pointed out an older recall hadn't been attended to by the previous owner, which we will now have done here in France when we bring the car back in February.

The help and attention to detail was extremely good, the workshop was very large and well appointed.

On first putting the car on the lift the boss took a minute or so to take a look all around the underside of the car which I thought showed interest in the job and care too.

Thanks everyone for contributions, it helps a lot.
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Old 21-12-11, 05:16 PM   #9
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Remove the airbox and fill two litres into the gearbox breather. Simple. Use 75w80 gear oil.
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Old 20-04-15, 11:57 AM   #10
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Smile 2007 Peugeot 807 2.0 SE Auto (Petrol) Gearbox Oil Gauge/Change

Don't understand the reason why some experienced guys on forums (generally) deliberately hold back information. Though they claim "donkey" years of experience. This attitude only benefits the merciless and money grabbing garages.

As for me? am just an enthusiast who happen to own a 2007 Peugeot 2.0 SE Auto (Petrol)

Here is how to gauge your Auto Gearbox oil.

When you open you bonnet, on your right, you will find the Air filter box. Take this out and you will find the bolt as pictured there staring at you. (pix 1 & 2) Undo the bolt and you will find that it also double up as the dip stick.(pix 3) This is also the Oil top up point.

The forth picture shows the location of the drain point (bolt) under the engine.

Step:

1. Undo the bolt in picture 4 and drain the Oil into a container
2. Remove the Air filter box
3. Undo the bolt under the Air filter box as in picture 1 & 2 looking as pix 3
4. Screw back the drain plug (bolt) under the engine once the Oil stops dripping
5. Top up with 2 liters Hydraulic Auto gear Oil
6. Screen back the Filler point bolt
7. Fix back your Air filter box
8 Start the engine and let it run for about 3 mins while standing

Off your engine, tidy up and your are good to go. Enjoy

NB
Finished typing out the above but could not find how and where to attach pictures. Sorry

Will upload pictures if possible and once am able, alternatively you can send your email and i will email you the pictures

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