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Old 19-03-13, 07:20 PM   #1
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Default Wipers running even with ignition off

Weird, but true: My beloved 407SW 2.0 HDI have started running the wipers even with the ignition off, even with the key out! Tried disconnecting the battery, wait 15 min and the reconnect. Still the same. They even keep wiping when locking the car, although they stop after a while then (as light dims).

No response from the wiper control stick either, the wiper seems to be in interval mode.

Relay problem is the first thing that comes to my mind, but I think I heard somewhere that the relay on these cars are integrated in the BSI.

Other than that, the car runs like a charm.

Anyone have a clue whats going on??
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Old 19-03-13, 07:34 PM   #2
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Have you Got Hid's fitted ?
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Hi, thanks for replying. Yes, I have HIDs. Had them for about five years with no problems. Unplugged them, disconnected battery and tried with no luck.

My brother in law (ex pug mech) suggested it could be the wiper motors, its been a couple of years since he was working on Peugeots but he seemed to remember a couple of cases like this.

But if its the motors, should they wipe on their own? Aren't they just on/off motors, or do they have some sort of controller on them that could cause this?

Strange. Guess I have to bite it and call a dealer...

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Underbonnet fusebox is likely culprit
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Just thought I'd post how this went for future referance for anyone who runs into this problem and searches the forum.

The culprit was (probably) my HIDs frying the wiper motor microcontroller
due to e.g. powerspikes from the HIDs. Pug-dealers reported this was a common well know problem as HID-kits got common to install.

In my case, the passenger side wiper motor was faulty.

Bought myself a year/model matching pair of wiper motors from a scrapyard,
and replaced the original ones. Its a fairly easy fix, took me about half an hour to replace them both.

Works great now.

Thanks for all replies in solving this :-)
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its always the Hid's that cause this. I was lucky with my last one so i'm not fitting them to this one.
Thanks for posting the result, it will help others
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its always the Hid's that cause this. I was lucky with my last one so i'm not fitting them to this one.
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This was solved years ago on Audi forums.
Audi A3 have the same problem with the wiper motor.

Wiper motor Repair [Audi A3 8P] | Audi-Sport.net

** Welldone HID for Audi A3 - Group Buy** | Audi-Sport.net
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This was solved years ago on Audi forums.
Audi A3 have the same problem with the wiper motor.

Wiper motor Repair [Audi A3 8P] | Audi-Sport.net

** Welldone HID for Audi A3 - Group Buy** | Audi-Sport.net
And this one was solved nearly 2 years ago. The OP posted the solution on 26th March 2013
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And this one was solved nearly 2 years ago. The OP posted the solution on 26th March 2013
How did he solved it?
Replaced the motor & prayed for the motor not to fail again?

Motor will fail again sooner or later if he doesn't remove the HID kit.
I wouldn't call that a solution.
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Actually it is only a chip in the motor that fails if you can solder then it will only cost a couple of quid to fix no need to replace the motor !!
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