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Old 17-01-14, 10:42 PM   #1
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Hi,

Im looking at a 407 HDI 2.0, 2009.

I've been through so many cars looking to find the perfect one, considering Mondeo, Passat, Older Passat, Audi, Skoda... This looks to be so far ticking the boxes.

I've been looking on Google trying to find some answers, but it seems a bit hit and miss.

What's the service schedule and timing belt interval for these cars?
What's the real world urban economy like? Hopefully 37?
FAP/DPF Regeneration? Information seems scant out there.... when does a regen actually occur? My daily journey is 10 mile through free flowing city traffic for 40 to 45 minutes - is this likely to be enough to regen? Will it actively regen? And are regens better with the EOLYS fluid? The Passat seems to have some good specs and info for its regens but having trouble finding that for the Pug.

Finally, as music is important to me, I want to fit a native iPod interface, not just an Aux cable. The spec Im looking at is the Sport model with the Sat Nav. But once again, Im finding any real world information, videos and pics about ripping out the existing radio and fitting something aftermarket. I believe the screen is just a screen, while the radio is 1.5DIN not even double DIN, so that's a problem.

Anyone with further information on this?

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Old 17-01-14, 11:01 PM   #2
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The following is based on a 2006 407sw 2.0 Hdi - if it's any use to you...

Service interval is 20k
Not sure about timing belt - I should probably check on that heh.
I get around 32mpg but thats with an average speed of 19-20 - my commute is heavily start-stop and only 4 miles.
To regen, IF the car thinks it needs it, requires the car to stay above a certain RPM for a certain length of time - not sure what the numbers are but I doubt any kind of city driving is going to kick it off - on the other hand, never had a problem with mine yet (only had it 6 months tho)

To put a real ipod interface into my car, it'd have to replace the CD changer - but my car has the RD4 stereo with mono display - sound like you are looking at something with the RT3 system so not sure if this helps.
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Old 17-01-14, 11:40 PM   #3
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This is my concern now, what if you can't maintain those speeds while doing the regen because of stop start? 32mpg stop start with the engine barely up to temperature sounds pretty good going though.

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I have a 58 plate 2.0 hdi. ive never seen mine read below low 50s on the trips. I work on a 10% over read, so even low 50s is actually mid-top 40s. Ive been getting about 700 a tank usually, and give it some beans at least once a tank. Mine gets about 50-50 town and A road use usually. I do try and avoid short trips, if it does get a couple of mile run, I usually make sure to go the long way and get it warm. Im lucky with my job, I work nights so I avoid the morning jams.
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Old 18-01-14, 10:04 AM   #5
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Blooming nora, Timing Belt intervals reported officially to be 160,000 miles or 10 years, which ever comes sooner.

Course, I think you'd be barking to leave it over probably 80k - 100k and 5 miles.

I so prefer chain engines. But.

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I have a 56 reg, 407 2.0 HDI SE. Had it 2 years and I have clocked up 54k miles in that time. Now on 109k. I get approx 51 miles per gallon (so the comp says), but it's all motorway cruising.

Not has a cam belt change yet, as the garage said at 118k, but due a service next month so will change it then.

Only issues I have had was a leaking fuel injector which got changed under the garage warranty (so have a check for that). I find it annoying that I don't have a cup holder (it was missing when I bought it but didn't notice as it's under a flap in the centre console). Recently had a water leak in the boot, due to a loose cable bung and so the rear parking sensor box got wet, so again check for that. The only other issue I have is the clutch slips when driving hard in 4th-6th i.e. foot down to overtake. Clutch not going as been doing it for nearly 2 years, it's due to oil mist contamination from a leaking seal. So again check for that.

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Old 19-01-14, 08:29 AM   #7
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Looks like I won't be buying a 407. Im quite a tall chap, but I felt very squashed inside the 407. The steering wheel comes out, past my knees thankfully, but then I just cannot see the front of the bonnet. :-(

Just couldn't get comfortable.

Thank you so far for all your advice - much friendlier than that other forum who wanted me to become a paying member just to ask what the real world MPG is - Hah. Why would I pay to join a forum to ask generic questions about a car I haven't yet bought?

Thanks all.

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Looks like I won't be buying a 407. Im quite a tall chap, but I felt very squashed inside the 407. The steering wheel comes out, past my knees thankfully, but then I just cannot see the front of the bonnet. :-(

Just couldn't get comfortable.
Odd that as I aren't a small bloke and find the 407 one of the comfiest cars I've driven. Lots of room and on long drives I never get out feeling tired.

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Looks like I won't be buying a 407. Im quite a tall chap, but I felt very squashed inside the 407. The steering wheel comes out, past my knees thankfully, but then I just cannot see the front of the bonnet. :-(

Just couldn't get comfortable.

Thank you so far for all your advice - much friendlier than that other forum who wanted me to become a paying member just to ask what the real world MPG is - Hah. Why would I pay to join a forum to ask generic questions about a car I haven't yet bought?

Thanks all.

Simon
Bit strange. You can change the reach on the steering column, the height of the seats. Just trial and error and you will get use to it. I'm 6 foot and it's nice and comfortable.
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Unless you're 'vertically challenged', you just have to watch your head as you get in and out. The "A" pillar rakes back enough to catch out the unwary.
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