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Old 23-03-13, 12:07 AM   #1
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Default 407 Particle filter problems...

Hokay

So - have a 57 plate 407 2.0HDi estate (131K on the clock) which i picked up today after my dodgy old focus decided to throw it's gearbox all over the road in disgust!

However, I get a "Particle filter Additive level too low" fault on starting.

This was cheap, Cheerful, and as far as i can see had most of the major work done... (Ex-private company car so no real expense spared going by the service/work history...)

Nov 12 - Replaced Particulate Fluid and re-calibrate. Filter Regenerated. Advisory of "Particulate fluid fault still showing after refilling and calibration. Suspect Faulty Fuel cap sensor"

Dec 12 - Replaced Fuel Cap sensor

However problem seems to still remain - Still get this come up when the car is started.

It wouldnt be empty already would it ??!! It has only done 10K since this work...

Is it anything to worry about??

Anyone any clues where to go from here?

All this was carried out by a company called "Citronics" who are a Citroen and Peugeot "specialist" in Herts....

On a side note, was looking at possibly picking up the Peugeot Planet sw/hw package. Could anyone point me in the cheapest however working direction at all please? Have used the standard Ford ODB/ODBII software with a Bluetooth i/f on the Ford with no problems in the past (interestingly looks like the same 16 pin connector as the bluetooth interface i currently have - anyone know if i can use a standard ODUII reader to at least read any error codes int he meantime?), so have a rough understanding etc of how they work and what they can do....

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Paul

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Old 23-03-13, 09:50 AM   #2
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Post up the p codes and descriptions and ill be able to help you.
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Old 24-03-13, 12:35 AM   #3
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Hiya David,

Interesting

the only error it comes up with (bearing in mind this is using a standard ODBII reader (EasyOdbII V2.2.0) is...

P1446

Which apparently (after a google, since it comes up with "manufacturer specific on my ODB") as "Evaporative vac solenoid circuit malfunction"

This comes up under both stored DTC and Pending DTC

No other alarms are present.

The google i did suggests they are related, tho i could be wrong?

Thanks
Paul

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Old 24-03-13, 12:46 AM   #4
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I wonder if, despite being a "specialist" they set the apprentice loose on this and didnt clear the error codes properly... I keep reading about there being TWO places in PP that this needs to be reset when topped up/cleaned out?? (from posts it's not particularly clear where this is though - "pef maintenance or the fap filter ecu"??)

Unfortunately I don't have (or have access to) PP yet -not for long! - so can't relate.... however would like to think that it hasn't thrown all the addative out without the garage noticing...

It's only been present for a few months (10k miles), and as previously mentioned in the first post, they recalibrated AND advised that the "fault" wouldn't clear on the same service... and recommended the change of the fuel cap sensor, which was done a week later. There's no notes on that service record as to if it cleared or not....

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Old 24-03-13, 11:07 AM   #5
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That fault above is a ghost fault. Its in loads of them.
Get a proper garage who knows about DPF systems to look at it. Theres so many places that haven't a clue.
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Old 24-03-13, 08:20 PM   #6
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Cheers David...

I'll do a manual check of the fluid level in the fluid tank first and also throw PP on to reset the relevant parameters if the fluid level is good (and confirm diags on PP to make sure actuation seems to be working correctly... seeing as the DPF was regenerated 10K ago i might go for a rant at 3k RPM to see if that has any effect too... And after all that if i'm still stuck then I guess i'll book it in.

Anyone any recommendations for a DECENT dealer (either Pug however preferably independent) around the Birmingham Area at all?

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Cheers David...

I'll do a manual check of the fluid level in the fluid tank first and also throw PP on to reset the relevant parameters if the fluid level is good (and confirm diags on PP to make sure actuation seems to be working correctly... seeing as the DPF was regenerated 10K ago i might go for a rant at 3k RPM to see if that has any effect too... And after all that if i'm still stuck then I guess i'll book it in.

Anyone any recommendations for a DECENT dealer (either Pug however preferably independent) around the Birmingham Area at all?

Cheers
Paul
Not UK based so haven't a clue.
You could call in to me if your Ireland bound. Sort that out no problem.
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Old 25-03-13, 08:43 AM   #8
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Dont tempt me David - I like a road trip

And almost on queue this morning....

"Depollution system faulty" with engine management light making an appearance....

Oh Joy.....

Can i still go for a regenerate when there's a "Particle filter Additive level too low" alert? (i.e. 3-4K revs for 20 mins on the motorway...)??

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Paul

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Old 25-03-13, 08:49 AM   #9
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You can. You can't do any damage anyway.

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Old 25-03-13, 01:28 PM   #10
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Thanks David for your advice - bottle of Wynns DPF cleaner, 40L of shell Diesel and a blast on the motorway later for me then (I joke not!)
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