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Old 02-07-18, 10:34 PM   #1
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Hi there. I’m new here, have 2x 4007 SV top spec 2012 4007s here in Australia, great vehicles, never had any grief. One has 90,000kms the other 120,000kms. The 4007 with the fewer k’s has developed an irregular knock or dead-sounding clunk between 2nd and 3rd gear. I can go weeks without it happening, then at the end of three weeks I’ll get it three times in a day. Having it in 2wd or 4wd or 4wd constant doesn’t change it. It doesn’t happen if I have the box in “manual” mode. It took a long time before I could pick it as a box issue, thought it might have been a cv joint - still might be. These 4007s were of course result of a sleepover between Mitsubishi and Peugeot in Japan, as far as I know the engine and box are Peugeot and much of the rest is Japanese. As such I’d expect that this box must be used in other Peugeot models. Any help/advice appreciated.
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Old 03-07-18, 12:32 AM   #2
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Personally I have a feeling it's the gearbox oil that needs changing, that clunk is possibly the gearbox changing gears but mismatching as the parameters have changed due to the fluid changes - hence manual mode not causing the clunk.

However I am sure someone with more knowledge will be along to prove me wrong and find the right solution

Does the clunk happen when the gearbox (gearboxes take longer than the engine to warm up) is hot or cold?
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Old 03-07-18, 01:35 AM   #3
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Thanks for your thoughts on this. The noise occurs whether the box is hot or cold, it can happen in the first 100m of a drive or halfway through a whole day drive. Doesn’t make a lot of sense to me, hopefully somebody will have had this happen
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Old 13-08-18, 06:46 PM   #4
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Default Mine does the same thing...

Have you found a cure for this problem, mine does this very intermittently, sometimes it will run for days without the issue then next time I drive it will occur several times, have you tried a fluid change?

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Old 04-09-18, 10:19 AM   #5
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Hi there. I’m new here, have 2x 4007 SV top spec 2012 4007s here in Australia, great vehicles, never had any grief. One has 90,000kms the other 120,000kms. The 4007 with the fewer k’s has developed an irregular knock or dead-sounding clunk between 2nd and 3rd gear. I can go weeks without it happening, then at the end of three weeks I’ll get it three times in a day. Having it in 2wd or 4wd or 4wd constant doesn’t change it. It doesn’t happen if I have the box in “manual” mode. It took a long time before I could pick it as a box issue, thought it might have been a cv joint - still might be. These 4007s were of course result of a sleepover between Mitsubishi and Peugeot in Japan, as far as I know the engine and box are Peugeot and much of the rest is Japanese. As such I’d expect that this box must be used in other Peugeot models. Any help/advice appreciated.
Hi,
Did you find a cure for the gearbox thump?
I am still trying to fix the exact problem here in France

Cheers Tony
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Old 05-09-18, 10:44 AM   #6
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My gear box has what is thought to be an input bearing going and linked to that gears 6 is wearing and vibrating against 5th when in 6th at 60mp. That doesn't answer the question i realise but i took it to gearbox specialist who said the gear box was derived from a Vauxhall 6 speed.... if that helps. mine has now done 155,000 miles and i didnt expect the gearbox to be first major problem.
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Old 30-09-18, 09:46 PM   #7
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Aussie driver here also. I have a 2nd hand 2012 4007 that exhibits the same behaviour. Purchased privately at 50,000km 18 months ago I noticed it after a couple of weeks. Now has 80,000km and will go a few weeks then does it a couple of times a day then stops. Impossible to replicate but I notice it frequently occurs when re-accelerating after a give way sign when I slow down and the dsc appears to get confused. Can also happen from a standing start (example, say from a stop sign). I’ve had a transmission expert look at it but couldn’t replicate. At this stage I’ve just accepted it and hope it doesn’t get any worse/serious. It is quite an off putting clunk for a driver.
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Old 01-10-18, 09:28 AM   #8
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Gday,
Aussie here in France,

Here is a link to the service schedule for the 4007
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Vj...q7KO654SHFm0dR

You can see that it recommends changing the transmission fluid and the filter after 5 years or 100k

My local Peugeot dealer (here in France) told me there was no filter !!!! He wanted 600 euros just to change the fluid.

here is the link to the service information how to change and refill the fluid and replace the transmission fluid filter.

Peugeot will do the job but be prepared to take out a second mortgage!.
Buying the fluid from Peugeot will cost x5 the price.
Do not buy the peugeot fluid unless you are feeling very rich.

This is for the 2.2 dual clutch manual piloted 6 speed box (the one with auto box and paddle shift)

you will need 6 ltrs

The fluid must meet (PSA) 9734.S2
Castrol DCT Getrag DCS6
Totol Fluidmatic DCT
Valvoline DCT

The filter is expensive. here is a link to show the type:

https://www.piecesauto24.com/vaico/12250264

Doing it yourself will cost you about 1/10 the price the dealer will charge.....

here is a link to all the PSA svc info:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ii...V9M89OdNEJYCg4

Book times for the filter and oil replacement is only 2 hrs.

Cheers Tony

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Old 11-10-18, 04:53 PM   #9
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Default Fluid and filter now changed

Hi,
I have just changed the filter and the fluid, couple of things to note the link I gave to the procedure shows three drain plugs, mine only had two. The third had a casting plug, where the removable plug should have been.
They remove easily with an 8mm allen key.
The filter is accessible and removes easily as per the manual, you will need a 32mm spanner.

To check the fluid level remove the wheel on the side of the transmission this will give easy access to the fluid level plug, also an 8mm allen, I used a stubby 8mm from my socket set and used an 8mm spanner to remove. Fiddly but not bad, just don't waste half an hour trying to remove from under the car as I did...

I used about 6 liters to refill.

Total job is probably around 3 hours most of it removing all the plastic panels.

Test drive went well, I will report later if it fixes the clunk gear change issues.

Cheers Tony
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Old 23-10-18, 09:19 AM   #10
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Thumbs up Silent gear change ...

Just returned from a trip to Freiburg and Colmar (Well worth a visit)

Gear change is now silky smooth no more jumping I forgot how good the gear change used to be..



If you want silky smooth gear change and no clunk between the gears go for it.

If you would like any further information please contact me, cause I'm an expert having done it once




Cheers

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