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Old 26-11-18, 12:26 AM   #1
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Red face Timing Chain issues

Has anyone had a similar issue to me where the timing chain has stretched? This is the second one in just over two years and is quite expensive? I wonder if there is not another root cause to this issue?
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You dont say what motor you have [petrol/diesel etc] but I suspect that [from your description] it is the Prince motor which are well known for timing chain and carboning up intakes among many other issues. Piece of BMW junk adapted for use in some peugeots like your model...
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It is a petrol 1.6L turbo engine 2009 pedigree..
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Piece of BMW junk adapted for use in some peugeots like your model...
That is inaccurate it is a PEUGEOT engine with BMW designed head built IN FRANCE !
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Old 27-11-18, 03:19 PM   #5
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How many miles has it done since it was last replaced and what makes you think the chain has stretched?

I have the same engine as yours ( mine is the 2008 model ), did the chain at 50k miles and she is on 108k miles now ( almost 3 years ago ) and no issues with the chain so far.

What garage are you using and what make of chain are they putting on?
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Old 27-11-18, 09:50 PM   #6
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if stretched within that quick a time then would say 99% that it's down to incorrect installation.

Lots of parts need to be changed when chain is stretched, and suspect this hasn't been the case or it's been fitted incorrectly.

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Old 28-11-18, 06:44 AM   #7
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This is a known issue with THP 155hp 1.6 prince engine. Your case : EP6CDT engine model.
You need to install the upgraded timing kit ( and revised tensioner bolt). I saw few times when an old version kit was mistakenly installed.
New chain is stronger and tensioner is longer.

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This is a known issue with THP 155hp 1.6 prince engine. Your case : EP6CDT engine model.
You need to install the upgraded timing kit ( and revised tensioner bolt). I saw few times when an old version kit was mistakenly installed.
New chain is stronger and tensioner is longer.
not such a known issue as such, it's the installation of the parts and poor maintenance.

Their isn't an upgraded timing kit, is no kit intact from Peugeot, it's all individual parts that are changed depending on what The diagnosis and investigation finds.

Lots of part numbers have changed yes but doesn't mean they are upgraded parts.

I have done about 23 timing jobs now on the thp so know the parts and history and how the issues come around

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Old 28-11-18, 10:28 AM   #9
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The tensioner had a TSB . Now it has a small dot at its back side (so you can identify it).
The brown rails were replaced to white ones with toughest PVC and the chain is re-enforced. At least with OEM kit.
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The tensioner had a TSB . Now it has a small dot at its back side (so you can identify it).
The brown rails were replaced to white ones with toughest PVC and the chain is re-enforced. At least with OEM kit.
yes the tensioner has changed, doesn't mean it's updated though! in fact it's still as bad as the previous one, not strong enough, we fit the bmw mini cooper one now and it's never had a problem.

The guides are only brown cause of the oil !!

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