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Old 03-02-19, 05:26 PM   #1
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I've been struggling for a fortnight to start my 308 1.6 HDi.

Changed the Fuel Filter - followed the Haynes book of lies and appear to have air in the system.

I have read, and read, and read, and read about how to resolve this and do not seem to be able to get the priming bulb to firm-up - that said, I don't know how firm, firm is?

I can get fuel flowing through the priming bulb, I can hear it. I cannot see air bubbles as I don't seem to have any clear pipe anywhere?

I'm guessing there's a chance that the priming bulb is shot, as it is 11 years old, so my plan is to use a separate pump and piping connected at the fuel filter, so I can see bubbles and also so that I don't need to lean in to the engine bay for quite so long, as to be honest my arms, wrists, legs and back cannot take much more.

Can anyone tell me what size quick connect adapters I need to order? I cannot fathom it out. The fuel filter is a Delphi HDF939. From what I can see, these are listed as 10mm on anything I can find related to the filter. Quick connect adaptors appear to have two sizes listed, I've just had to return ones that were listed as 10mm as they're not correct, (11.8mm x 10mm). I had guessed that the 10mm, referred to the 10mm, however that doesn't appear to be so, as they do not fit whatsoever and have been unable to find any guidance anywhere on this type of adapter.

Cannot find them listed on ECP (don't know if they have another name?) and really don't want to part with anything from 90-150 on a full on priming kit for a job I'll rarely do again - in fact, after this, will likely never tackle again. Cambelt is easier than fuel filter!
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Hi....may I ask why you changed the fuel filter?
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Had a leaky injector last year which was repaired by a diesel specialist. When I picked it up, they advised that the best way to avoid an issues was to ensure that the fuel filter was replaced when servicing. EGR was sticking had to take off all the gubbins to get at that to clean it - which I cleaned and subsequently replaced as it was beyond serviceable.

Figured changing the air filter and fuel filter at the same time made sense.

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Ah...so the car was starting and running before the fuel filter change..
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Yes, other than running a little low on power as the EGR was sticking. Kicking myself now, as hadn't anticipated this. If I had, I wouldn't have done both at the same time.

First time the car has ever not started.
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Ok....is the battery fully charged as a low battery wont crank the starter fast enough....also try squeezing the bulb while cranking
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Yeah, tried these. Have pumped that thing so much that I physically couldn't do any more the day I changed the filter. After several hours had the missus try turning the engine while I was pumping away at the prime pump. Battery has been off a couple of times to charge it up again.
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Can't for the life of me find any documentation anywhere that details the sizes of the connectors. Seem to be known as SAE J2044.
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It takes quite a few presses to firm up the bulb, what you are doing is filling the new filter with fuel and it holds maybe half a litre so keep pressing and it should eventually firm up.
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This is the way;
But I would prime the filter with diesel before fitting
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