Stop faulty braking system - Peugeot Forums
Peugeot Forums - Peueot - Citroen Community
Home :: Peugeot Forums :: Rules :: Articles :: About Us :: Partner Vendors :: Advertise


Go Back   Peugeot Forums > Peugeot Models > 307
PeugeotForums.com is the premier Peugeot All Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Like Tree4Likes

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-10-17, 11:10 AM   #1
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 5
Default Stop faulty braking system

This morning my 307 refused to start, and it's very, very weird.

Some symptoms that I've noticed:
  • Computer has been reset, date is 1.1.2003. and language back to French.
  • Windows and wipers work, but they are extremely slow and sluggish like they have barely any power.
  • Music wont turn on at all.
  • Error message shown means "Stop faulty braking system" in English, and that's what it shows when I switch language to English.

This is what it happens when I try to start it: drive.google.com/open?id=1VtQ2VwF1bASh0jU-Plyzczwaxp59O-okmg

So, I get the brakes failing warning (despite brakes seemingly working perfectly fine), and when I try to ignite the car makes some strange whirring noise and nothing happens except dinging sounds. I really don't think this is an actual brake issue, it looks like faulty electronics preventing ignition as some safety feature?

Is there any way to override this? I just want to drive to the nearest mechanic instead of towing it.
davorzdralo is offline   Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 06-10-17, 11:24 AM   #2
Moderator
 
Gibbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Southport
Posts: 11,626
Default

Sounds like a battery problem. Common at this time of year and throws up all manner of error messages as the sensors and car's ECU isn't getting the full 12v.
__________________
Planet Diags: Sefton - Merseyside
Gibbo is offline   Quick reply to this message
Old 06-10-17, 11:35 AM   #3
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Plymouth
Posts: 158
Default

Sounds like a battery problem to me too. The whirring noise could be the ABS pump, mine siezed and gave an ABS error.
__________________
Now Driving a Ford Focus 1.6 zetec climate
Janner is offline   Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-10-17, 02:56 PM   #4
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 5
Default

Thanks guys, I just changed the battery and it started up right away. Who programmed this ECU, I'd like to kick his ass. As a programmer myself, giving users an incorrect message is a cardinal sin.

Last edited by Beau; 06-10-17 at 05:16 PM. Reason: bad language.
davorzdralo is offline   Quick reply to this message
Old 06-10-17, 06:46 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Stoke on Trent
Posts: 1,798
Default

The French, what did you expect?
madbadandold is offline   Quick reply to this message
Old 06-10-17, 06:56 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
storeman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Oldham, UK
Posts: 5,906
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by davorzdralo View Post
Thanks guys, I just changed the battery and it started up right away. Who programmed this ECU, I'd like to kick his ass. As a programmer myself, giving users an incorrect message is a cardinal sin.
It didn't show an incorrect message. As per Gibbo's response, when the battery capacity ran low the ABS ECU was unable to work correctly and so the error message was correct. Yours was possibly in a minority because usually, several ECU's are unable to work correctly and in my instance of a failing battery had lots of warning lights and messages show up and a shed full of error codes stored. Everyone of them was a false error but at the same time they were correct errors because the ecu's were unable to function.

As for kicking the programmer and yourself being a programmer, I would suspect you have far more storage for your software and error checking routines along with any messages than the BSI has so the programmers have a limited amount of space in which to pack the error messages. If they had unlimited storage I've no doubt they could have the system check for every possibility instead of in a lot of cases have to use a generic, all encompassing message. I highly doubt you could do any better regardless of how good you are at programming.
noddy-hol likes this.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
storeman is offline   Quick reply to this message
Old 06-10-17, 08:15 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 1,134
Default

Any half decent programmer should know that ANY sort of power fluctuation while programming can result in all sorts of errors/corruption, and takes steps, like using a decent UPS, to ensure a constant supply of power.
How do you think the poor ECU/BSI in your car feels when YOU allow it to be starved of it's life supply? AND then you blame someone else for it for falling short...
storeman likes this.
WillNZ is offline   Quick reply to this message
Old 06-10-17, 08:41 PM   #8
Moderator
 
noddy-hol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: huntingdon.ish
Posts: 2,146
Default

A good battery is crucial to the cars systems..as many have found out..it seems to be a forgoten item to check first for some reason?
storeman likes this.
noddy-hol is offline   Quick reply to this message
Old 07-10-17, 10:59 AM   #9
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 5
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WillNZ View Post
Any half decent programmer should know that ANY sort of power fluctuation while programming can result in all sorts of errors/corruption, and takes steps, like using a decent UPS, to ensure a constant supply of power.
How do you think the poor ECU/BSI in your car feels when YOU allow it to be starved of it's life supply? AND then you blame someone else for it for falling short...
That is a complete nonsense. Spewing out random garbage instead of warning that battery is low is completely and utterly unacceptable behaviour. Imagine if your laptop warned you that your hard drive is failing when your battery was running low. Absolutely moronic.
madbadandold likes this.
davorzdralo is offline   Quick reply to this message
Old 07-10-17, 11:00 AM   #10
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 5
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by noddy-hol View Post
A good battery is crucial to the cars systems..as many have found out..it seems to be a forgoten item to check first for some reason?
Maybe because 307 has a battery warning light?
davorzdralo is offline   Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Closed Thread

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Peugeot Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT. The time now is 01:54 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.