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Old 20-07-16, 03:38 PM   #1
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Hi Guys,

Had my 307sw serviced today, and it is the first time I've had professional eyes across the vehicle...

I've had a little bit of clutch shudder with the car since I bought it - it's worse when its cold and isn't unbearable.

I asked the mechanic to have a look at it and let me know what he thinks. His words were "it's not too bad", but I haven't a clue what that actually means, or what he might have looked it, if anything.

The clutch also seems to be getting better the longer I drive it - I bought the car in London, and since I've had it out of the city I wonder if the style of driving is actually taking some uneven wear out of the clutch and flywheel.

I've also been digging around the forum regard the clutch kit, and have read that the 2.0L diesel (90hp) engine has a single mass flywheel. Is this true for all the 90hp engines?

So, with all that in mind, is the judder likely to be the clutch kit itself, or do you still think it likely that something external is causing the judder (engine mount or oil leak etc)? With the single mass flywheel, is it unlikely that I would need to change that if I got the clutch done?
And, roughly what should I expect to pay for someone to change the clutch for me?

Thanks very much guys!
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I've also been digging around the forum regard the clutch kit, and have read that the 2.0L diesel (90hp) engine has a single mass flywheel. Is this true for all the 90hp engines?

So, with all that in mind, is the judder likely to be the clutch kit itself, or do you still think it likely that something external is causing the judder (engine mount or oil leak etc)?
Yes, single mass (or solid flywheel) in 90bhp engines.

The judder could be three things:

1) Badly fitted clutch.

2) Poor quality clutch. Valeo are generally regarded the best for judder-free.

3) Engine mounts. I had a judder which went when I swapped all three engine mounts - the bottom one for a Powerflex.
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Yes, single mass (or solid flywheel) in 90bhp engines.

The judder could be three things:

1) Badly fitted clutch.

2) Poor quality clutch. Valeo are generally regarded the best for judder-free.

3) Engine mounts. I had a judder which went when I swapped all three engine mounts - the bottom one for a Powerflex.
Thanks Gibbo.
Would you add worn clutch to the list?
And, if I can live with it, do I need to do anything about it, or is there other damage happening?
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Thanks Gibbo.
Would you add worn clutch to the list?
And, if I can live with it, do I need to do anything about it, or is there other damage happening?
From personal experience, no. All I've had is high revs as the clutch slips. Maybe a slight clunk as the clutch goes down, which is the thrust release bearing.

So long as the judder isn't too violent and causing wear on the engine mounts, it could be worth seeing if it beds in.

But check those three mounts, that costs nothing but time.
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From personal experience, no. All I've had is high revs as the clutch slips. Maybe a slight clunk as the clutch goes down, which is the thrust release bearing.

So long as the judder isn't too violent and causing wear on the engine mounts, it could be worth seeing if it beds in.

But check those three mounts, that costs nothing but time.
Thanks mate - that is extremely reassuring!
Like I said, it's actually getting better the more I drive it, so it could be that the clutch that was put in was not the greatest quality, and this is why the last owner sold it.

I'll check out the mounts just to be sure, and keep an eye on them!

Really appreciated!!!
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I am getting a judder at startup and a thud sound every now and again juddery gear changes .. on Inspection the R H Engine mount rubber is badly split So phoned dealers 93 for the Mounting

this may point you in the right direction to the cause of your Judder
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I am getting a judder at startup and a thud sound every now and again juddery gear changes .. on Inspection the R H Engine mount rubber is badly split So phoned dealers 93 for the Mounting

this may point you in the right direction to the cause of your Judder
Thanks Jagn - I'll get onto looking at those mounts
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I am getting a judder at startup and a thud sound every now and again juddery gear changes .. on Inspection the R H Engine mount rubber is badly split So phoned dealers 93 for the Mounting
I got a genuine Febi one from a Ebay parts business in Germany. I think it was 63 in total.
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I got a genuine Febi one from a Ebay parts business in Germany. I think it was 63 in total.
delivery time .. got a Gatwick trip coming up so May have to just pay a fortune out cannot keep driving it like this (although keeping driving to a minimum ) It will just Knock out other mountings


Just an Update Have sourced a Genuine replacement from a Dealer 40 including Courier delivery (dealer has stopped doing business with Pugs ) Result
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From personal experience, a judder could be a dodgy flywheel (this has recently happened to me, resulting in the car being beyond economical repair), ageing driveshaft has also been postulated, as well as a thrust bearing.
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