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Old 25-07-16, 02:03 PM   #1
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Default 307 HDI - considering buying one

Hello,

I'm new so be gentle. I'm used to VW's, and was on the way to see a Golf (which turned out to be dog rough), however a 307 HDI caught my eye. It's the 1.6 model in a dark red (maroon?) colour.

It has 67k miles on it which seems low, but I checked MOT history and it's simply not been used much, which might explain the number of fails for:

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Exhaust emits an excessive level of metered smoke for a turbo charged engine (7.4.B.3b)
There's a few scratches on it (the back bumper has been keyed), and some lacquer peel below the filler cap, but all in all, it's pretty solid it seems. The only thing I've noticed other than some awful dog smells and some weird crap in the rear seat pockets, is that the drivers side electric windows switches are a bit haywire. I assume they're easy enough to fix?

Cambelt hasn't been done and the bloke said it needed doing after 90k miles?

They want 1200 for it? Any thoughts, recommendations?
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90 thousand OR X amount of years so its probably overdue in years !!

Timing belts are 1 of these things that should be done BEFORE they are due not wait till the time comes and hope it lasts !!
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My own personal thoughts on the 307....

Bought one after using one for work. I bought a 2 litre and was instantly impressed with the engine. Loads of kick and really economical on long runs.

The issue with my 307 is that it hadn't been looked after by the previous owner. For example, it was well overdue a service, it had developed a knock on the nearside drop link, the suspension was long due for renewal/replacement, the body work was scruffy.

I bought it despite the above, as I wanted a project to keep me busy, and it certainly did that. Solve one issue, another crops up.

I finally got to a point where all the mechanical issues were almost done and I could do something with the bodywork and the flywheel decides do fail.

Having already spent as much on the car as what I paid for it, I decided enough was enough.

Despite all the maintenance and TLC I gave it, it just wasn't enough to give this car a second wind. As I said, it hadn't been looked after by a previous owner, and I think the car as a whole needs to be taken care of and driven in the correct way.

If you decide to go for it, make sure the engine oil is fresh and always topped up, make sure the coolant is clean and the cooling system actually works and make sure it has a good, FREQUENT motorway run out, otherwise the DPF will clog.

In short, keep on top of the basics, make sure they're right and you should have a cracking car. The minute problems begin setting in, you might find yourself chasing your tail.
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Factor in the cost for DPF replacement, possibly a dual mass clutch.

You don't mention the year of the car.
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90 thousand OR X amount of years so its probably overdue in years !!

Timing belts are 1 of these things that should be done BEFORE they are due not wait till the time comes and hope it lasts !!
Ahh. Okay. VW's it's every 40k miles, so the 'years' thing never crops up. I would usually have had it done, but I need to factor in the cost here.

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My own personal thoughts on the 307....

Bought one after using one for work. I bought a 2 litre and was instantly impressed with the engine. Loads of kick and really economical on long runs.

The issue with my 307 is that it hadn't been looked after by the previous owner. For example, it was well overdue a service, it had developed a knock on the nearside drop link, the suspension was long due for renewal/replacement, the body work was scruffy.

I bought it despite the above, as I wanted a project to keep me busy, and it certainly did that. Solve one issue, another crops up.

I finally got to a point where all the mechanical issues were almost done and I could do something with the bodywork and the flywheel decides do fail.

Having already spent as much on the car as what I paid for it, I decided enough was enough.

Despite all the maintenance and TLC I gave it, it just wasn't enough to give this car a second wind. As I said, it hadn't been looked after by a previous owner, and I think the car as a whole needs to be taken care of and driven in the correct way.

If you decide to go for it, make sure the engine oil is fresh and always topped up, make sure the coolant is clean and the cooling system actually works and make sure it has a good, FREQUENT motorway run out, otherwise the DPF will clog.

In short, keep on top of the basics, make sure they're right and you should have a cracking car. The minute problems begin setting in, you might find yourself chasing your tail.
Thanks for this very useful reply. I did check the oil, and it was a tad on the low side, but I tend to give an oil change the same day as I buy a new car anyway. I never like to leave the oil in there from previous owners, you can't be sure what's in.

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Factor in the cost for DPF replacement, possibly a dual mass clutch.

You don't mention the year of the car.
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I hope that any negatives I have pointed out haven't put you off - I think that they nice cars to drive, but I only find they're nice when they're well looked after.
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I hope that any negatives I have pointed out haven't put you off - I think that they nice cars to drive, but I only find they're nice when they're well looked after.
Oh you've not put me off, but you've given me some things to think about. I do like it, and I am still tempted to buy it, but it seems there are more problems with the diesels than with the petrols. Having driven VW's I've been used to diesels being more reliable than petrols, so it's a whole new thing for me.

I'll keep an eye on it.
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If its been regularly serviced you shouldn't have any problems other than parts which wear out naturally.

I've had mine about four years, got it with 70k on the clock, its now on 116k and I've serviced it every 6000 miles. In all that time I've just had a faulty diesel temperature sensor and blanked my EGR valve, all expected with the age (2003) and mileage of the car.

To be honest I'd probably give that car you're looking at a miss. If its not been used much, there's a good chance its done more local miles and never got up to temperature so the EGR and DPF will be on their way out due to being clogged and worn out. And that neglected cambelt, MOT failure reason and the state of the car confirm this is one to avoid in my book, you could be looking at a minimum 500 of work in the next twelve months.

Look for a 2005 2L 90bhp model. Yes it will be the older shape, but that engine is far more reliable and more tolerable to neglect!
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